Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

Chupacabra wrote:

<quoted text>What do we do if they cut off those imports? I did shop work all through the 90's plenty of work then. NOW the MACHINES are GONE, we could not make anything if we wanted to.

Good point..

Devin wrote:

Bush crafted TARP, the Congressional compromise was that the incoming president would have half the allocated funds availalbe for distribution as he may see fit to move the economy from a point of being stalled.
Bush and Paulson effectively gave their half of TARP Funds away without any requirements on repayment conditions and interest terms. Obama recrafted and introduced conditions and implemented terms for repayment of any funds distributed/lent from TARP Funding.

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Yes, we ARE talking about those transparent funds eh?
Do you know where it all is right now?
How much has been used and on what?

Plant Lady wrote:

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yah...I have seen that. But really nothing addressing the self employed or independent contractor. Which is where many of the uninsured folks come from.
This Bill is going to be a nightmare for the American people to endure.

im not sure on the self employeed.. I agree

Devin wrote:

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Facts are commonly a hypocrisy of Mis-information

Are you saying you are deliberately lying Dev so you shouldn't be considered a hypocrite?

Well, I suppose that is one way to look at it.8987

Devin wrote:

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How is it impossible for someone in America to make sacrifices to move to greener pasture for their basic survival?

Dev, that would be the point wouldn't it?

You seem to think that it wasn't possible under Bush and now it is under Obama. I didn't say it dude, you did.

scribbles-n-witts wrote:

personaly i think they should legalize pot so we could all just get stoned and forget the whole thing!
the stock in General Mills would go through the roof!

yeah..CA seems to be so well with pot stores on every corner....

scribbles-n-witts wrote:

If we have a world war now we well be able to create jobs on a unprecedented scale…. Just think of the work and factories need to supply the war efforts.
We will have Woodstock all over again.
There will be a great peace movement after its over.
I will give us a chance to kill off all the nonconformist…
We will get government cheese once again…
There will be three girls for every boy….
And Hollywood will be able to bring back all those cheesy biker movies…..
Maybe even 2008bill will be able to tell how he single handedly won the war?

I forgot to add that I have heard there are tobacco companies in ready for the day cannibus is nationally legalized. <no confirmed source...just some insider trade talk>. I do know some sod farmers that would love to switch to something a bit more profitable.

2008bill wrote:

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Honestly Dean, are you obsessed with your sexual themes? Please get help while you still can!

2008Bill, you're just plain obsessed. You know the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a defferent result. In other words you're nuts, get a life loser.

Devin wrote:

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That may be because you live in a state with near 10% unemployment, there's not much room for growth and development in desired locations in your region.
There was just a completion of a 6 Billion Dollar Project in Vegas, in locations where unemployment isn't beyond 8% construction workers aren't complaining. There are less than 15 States in America with unemployment in the predicment and range as Georgia's Alabama, Tennessee and South Carolina are all in similar conditions.
That's not suprising that region is and has always been a economic wasteland.

I am currently bidding on a government TARP funded project in down town Atlanta.(Redevelopment of a bad area). This bid if accepted will not make or break the company). There are infrastructure construction jobs available, but no commercial building or housing. I don't see that happening for at least 3 years. Even then it will not be as it was. I do think you are correct. Many will need to retrain, otherwise they will be on government dole for the rest of our lives. I just think you are unrealistic in folks moving from region to region to find employment. I think for the general uneducated unemployed populace that is unrealistic.

Devin wrote:

Bush crafted TARP, the Congressional compromise was that the incoming president would have half the allocated funds availalbe for distribution as he may see fit to move the economy from a point of being stalled.
Bush and Paulson effectively gave their half of TARP Funds away without any requirements on repayment conditions and interest terms. Obama recrafted and introduced conditions and implemented terms for repayment of any funds distributed/lent from TARP Funding.

Obama voted for TARP. Like most people, he had questions, but his support was clear. It was clear because he would get to control the rest of it. <g>

And don't forget that Obama was in the Senate (albeit a zero) for a couple of years.

The issue is that things would normally be better by now. Obama is hurting the economy and the middle class and this is really the story.

Uncle Jesse wrote:

<quoted text>lets see now, 28 contracts signed this year over 5 last year, bills are paid and the children got presents yesterdy. housing sales are up as well is new construction. I'd like to send you my bank statements but don't trust any republicans anymore.

Good for you. Commercial or residential?

Dean Martin wrote:

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I prolly should've reminded you, in the holiday spirit of giving to the bereft, you might consider sending some of that manure to the commie boob, so he won't have to subsist on nothing but Acorns for the holidays.

He spins so much crap, he probably won't know what to do with extra.

I heard during the Christmas holidays that the Obamas did not celebrate gift giving, etc......did you hear the same?

Devin wrote:

The southern States were Unemployment is high, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, South Carolina and Kentucky were the same states who economic development strategies were to give Tax incentives, lands and money to foreign manufactures to open production facilities in those states.
Those southern states gave Millions in future tax revenues to Foreign Manufactuers. The Same States playing host to ideas of revolution. How are those budget shortfalls playing out now?
Obama gave incentives to American Manufactuers with repayment schedules slated to be completed in the near future and there was total outcry of socialism. Why is it accepted in those States for Foreign Manufactures and not acceptable for American Corporations with planned repayment schedules?

Simple. Because Obama's efforts are not designed to make things better; they are designed to make things "equal."

Obama's business efforts have been abysmal. Unemployment will stay high for many years while the middle class is destroyed due to Obama's efforts to transform the once vibrant economy to a Socialism.

I understand that in Wisconsin, more people now work for the government than do in manufacturing. The growth of government is terrible as it produces little.

We should work to minimize government, not expand it like Obama is doing.

Things should bet getting better by now, but they are not.

Plant Lady wrote:

big bro will be watching you
Will we be required to carry national health ID cards?
(i) ELIGIBILITY FOR A HEALTH PLAN AND HEALTH CLAIM STATUS- The set of operating rules for eligibility for a health plan and health claim status transactions shall be adopted not later than July 1, 2011, in a manner ensuring that such operating rules are effective not later than January 1, 2013, and may allow for the use of a machine readable identification card.

Thou shalt not buy or sell without the barcode of the beast! LOL

Libs lie wrote:

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Hey moron... did they try to fly or to sail the EXACT SAME way over and over? Because if they did we would all be earth bound.
Your stupidity is showing again.
It is like attempting to educate you... it is pretty much pointless. That is why I no longer attempt it.

Are you playing the "Way it NEVER was" again?
Just look how great everything was in December 2008.

1. War missions completed, troops home with their families
2. Economy booming, no recession in sight.
3. Borders secured, Immigration plan in place.
4. Health care costs under control, all Americans with affordable health care plans.
5. Social Security on the road toward solvency.
6. Public Education system improved, test scores improved considerably.
7. An alternative energy plan in place and oil dependence at all time low!
8. Housing market in it's best condition ever
9. Stock market strong

Now all of this ruined by this democrat! What a shame!

Chylloh wrote:

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He spins so much crap, he probably won't know what to do with extra.
I heard during the Christmas holidays that the Obamas did not celebrate gift giving, etc......did you hear the same?

I didn't hear about not giving gifts, but I did see an interview with the Obama's and he got snippey when Michele said he always makes out better. It was sort of awkward as you could really see the tension.

2008bill wrote:

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Are you playing the "Way it NEVER was" again?
Just look how great everything was in December 2008.
1. War missions completed, troops home with their families
2. Economy booming, no recession in sight.
3. Borders secured, Immigration plan in place.
4. Health care costs under control, all Americans with affordable health care plans.
5. Social Security on the road toward solvency.
6. Public Education system improved, test scores improved considerably.
7. An alternative energy plan in place and oil dependence at all time low!
8. Housing market in it's best condition ever
9. Stock market strong
Now all of this ruined by this democrat! What a shame!

You're silly. 2008 was a year ago. Look at 2009; what a mess.

And 2010 is look bad too. Retail is going to be trainwreck in the coming months, commercial real estate is another coming mess, and the mortgage problems are moving into the prime area.

Quick living life in the rear-view mirror. Things should have been better by now.

USAsince1680 wrote:

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Basically, Californians no longer have a vote in the Senate. Nancy Pelosi is not a Senator. She doesn't give a hoot about California...only her district of San Francisco. Our two senators are both Jewish democrats who have their own agendas that have nothing to do with helping out California. Arnold? That's a laugh.
He yields no power with Madwoman Pelosi.
However, for the record, you need to check your statistics. For every dollar of Federal taxes paid by Californians, California receives .79 in Federal funding. Pennsylvania, on the other hand, receives $1.06 for every $1.00 contributed. Californians are responsible for contributing funds toward reduction of the national debt while Pennsylvanians feed at the Federal trough and add to the debt.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/sr139.pdf

You think I am standing up for Rendell and the Libs who run this sorry ass state? HARDLY! I also don't care about any 'stats' as they are usually incorrect. California dug it's own grave, fed funding or not!

Devin wrote:

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Here is the point which seems to escape you, with 36 State with Unemployment below 10% why would you subject yourself and your family to living and remainding in a state that is an economic waste land, and unemployment hovering or above 10%?
Sounds like a personal choice resulted in the job status of a citizens unemployed coupled wtih lack of sufficient professional skills and, the insuing consequences suffered are being blamed on Politicians, where's that attitude of Self Responsibility and taken credit for one's own actions.
Why would an individual allow the Government to do for them and their obligations what apparently those same individuals are willing to do for themselves? If there is ample employment in New Jersey, why would someone remain in California? More pointedly, how is a decision like this President's Obama's fault?

Not everyone can just up and move a whole family stupid. It's been hard for many families to barely make it.
As for me I moved!
Work is now drying up here, since we were last to be hit on this side of USA.
So I myself am moving to another state fora better job.
But the fact of the matter and you are MISSING THE POINT.
Is this: the states in which you are referring to, could not in anyway support that amount of work load needed to get everyone working. Not even enough homes and apartment space to suffice the moves.
Your logic and thinking is a foolish way to go about it.
You need to look at impact fiscal impacts in both areas as well. Like if a mass exodus occurs, and it leaves a void for all the people moving.
It will effect local merchants, apartment complexes, rental homes etc. A huge trickle down effect from it!
Now a mass move into a particular area would generate huge job growth within the region to it's max capacity. Meaning it would take 2-4 years to even build enough homes rentals and all. There is no way it could work.
Once again another typical liberal, to stupid to look at end result.
Dude get a clue and see what the end result would be.

Devin wrote:

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Here is the point which seems to escape you, with 36 State with Unemployment below 10% why would you subject yourself and your family to living and remainding in a state that is an economic waste land, and unemployment hovering or above 10%?
Sounds like a personal choice resulted in the job status of a citizens unemployed coupled wtih lack of sufficient professional skills and, the insuing consequences suffered are being blamed on Politicians, where's that attitude of Self Responsibility and taken credit for one's own actions.
Why would an individual allow the Government to do for them and their obligations what apparently those same individuals are willing to do for themselves? If there is ample employment in New Jersey, why would someone remain in California? More pointedly, how is a decision like this President's Obama's fault?

1-I forgot top add. The reason I say it is his fault?
Let's start with stimulus money. What a joke. Was supposed to go for job growth through private sector. Instead it went to democrat controled areas by a 2:1 margin.(Fact look it up).
2- he keeps spending and spending. And now healthcare which it will bring down the economy.(they already said there is going to be a higher tax rate across the board to be able to fund it). Fact
3- That being said on the topics above!
If the president did things really for the people? He would have spread the money evenly per capita. But he didn't. He also never really told us how much it would effect us.