Amy 2-9

There are two people over at the WaPo who HATE me and HATE that I pick on Amy. One guy has two big paragraphs of calling me a whiny baby.? I sure didn't whine, i posted the exact same response there as I did here. Who defends amy to that degree?

RedheadwGlasses wrote:

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One woman on a board of 13 isn't going to effect much progress. She needs the men's cooperation.

We're talking presidents here.

-president of Proctor & Gamble's feminine and health care division
-worldwide president of the company's pharmaceutical group

Sorry if I'm not going to buy into the idea that they have no power as to the direction of there companies and are at the mercy of the men.

LW1 - i don't consider myself overly sensitive to scents, but i was a the mall last night and almost had a sneezing fit wehn we passed by abercrombie & fitch! usually teh headache comes from teh music, not the smell. i also have problems walking by sephora some day. i feel for hte LW. i thnk the idea of having a spare set of clothes at LWs house may be a good start, but the kid's regular clothes woudl still be there stinking up where ever they sat...

Mister Tonka wrote:

<quoted text>We're talking presidents here.
-president of Proctor & Gamble's feminine and health care division
-worldwide president of the company's pharmaceutical group
Sorry if I'm not going to buy into the idea that they have no power as to the direction of there companies and are at the mercy of the men.

The president isn't all powerful at a big pharma company. There's a board of directors to report to (they have more power than the president), there are shareholders who demand profits....

Just for shts and grins, here's a list of products still used today invented by women:

Randi Altschul
Randice-Lisa Altschul invented the world's first disposable cell phone.

Mary Anderson
Mary Anderson invented the windshield wiper. Anderson was issued a patent for the wipers in 1905.

Virginia Apgar
Apgar invented a newborn scoring system or "Apgar Score" for assessing the health of newborn infants.

Barbara Askins
Developed a totally new way of processing film.

Patricia Bath
The first African American woman doctor to receive a patent for a medical invention.

Miriam E. Benjamin
Ms. Benjamin was the second black woman inventor to receive a patent. She received a patent for an invention she called a "Gong and
Signal Chair for Hotels".

Patricia Billings
Patricia Billings invented a indestructible and fireproof building material called Geobond®.

Katherine Blodgett
Invented the non-reflecting glass.

Bessie Blount
Blount invented a device to help disabled people eat with less difficulty.

Sarah Boone
An improvement to the ironing board was invented by African American Sarah Boone on April 26, 1892.

Rachel Fuller Brown
Rachel Brown co-invented Nystatin, the world's first useful antifungal antibiotic.

Josephine Garis Cochran
In 1886, Josephine Cochran invented the first practical dishwasher.

Martha J. Coston
Martha Coston invented a pyrotechnic signaling system known as maritime signal flares.

Dianne Croteau
Invented Actar 911, the CPR mannequin.

Marie Curie
Marie Curie also known as Madame Curie discovered radium and furthered x-ray technology.

Marion Donovan
The convenient disposable diaper was invented by New Yorker Marion Donovan in 1950.

Gertrude Belle Elion
Elion invented the leukemia-fighting drug 6-mercaptopurine, drugs that facilitated kidney transplants and other drugs for the treatment of cancer and leukemia.

Edith Flanigen
Flanigen was the inventor of a petroleum refining method and is considered one of the most inventive chemists of all time.

Helen Free
Free was the inventor of the home diabetes test.

Sally Fox
Sally Fox invented naturally-colored cotton.

Frances Gabe
Gabe invented the "Self Cleaning House".

Lillian Gilbreth
Lillian Moller Gilbreth was an inventor, author, industrial engineer, industrial psychologist, and mother of twelve children.

Sarah E. Goode
Sarah Goode was the first African American women to receive a U.S. patent.

Bette Nesmith Graham
Graham invented liquid paper, also known as White-Out™.

Temple Grandin
Temple Grandin invented livestock-handling devices.

KK Gregory
KK Gregory is the ten-year old inventor of Wristies®.

Ruth Handler
The Barbie doll was invented in 1959 by Ruth Handler.

Elizabeth Lee Hazen
Elizabeth Hazen co-invented Nystatin, the world's first useful antifungal antibiotic.

Beulah Henry
All told, Henry made about 110 inventions and holds 49 patents.

Dorothy Crowfoot Hodgkin
Hodgkin used x-rays to find the structural layouts of atoms and to discover the overall molecular shape of over 100 molecules including: penicillin, vitamin B-12, vitamin D and insulin.

Krisztina Holly
Co-invented the telephony software called Visual Voice.

Erna Schneider Hoover
Hoover invented the computerized telephone switching system.

Grace Hopper
Grace Hopper was a computer inventor best known for the Mark computer series.

Mary Phelps Jacob
Mary Phelps Jacob invented the bra.

Amanda Theodosia Jones
Jones re-invented American food production by inventing vacuum packed canning.

Marjorie Stewart Joyner
Joyner invented a permanent wave machine that would allow a hairdo to stay set for days.

Anna Keichline
Architect, Anna Keichline created inventions for the home.

Mary Kies: Patenting Pioneer
Kies was the first women to receive a U.S. patent on May 15, 1809.

Gabriele Knecht
Patented the Forward Sleeve design for creating clothing.

Margaret Knight
Margaret Knight was an employee in a paper bag factory when she invented a new machine part to make square bottoms for paper bags. Knight can be considered the mother of the grocery bag, she founded the Eastern Paper Bag Company in 1870.

Stephanie Louise Kwolek
Kwolek invented a material five times stronger than steel called Kevlar.

Hedy Lamarr
Lamarr was a movie star and inventor.

Ada Lovelace
Wrote a scientific paper in 1843 that anticipated the development of computer software artificial intelligence and computer music.

Sybilla Masters - First American Woman Inventor
Masters was the first American female inventor in recorded history, but no doubt women have been inventing since the dawn of time without the deserved recognition.

Ann Moore
Invented the Snugli baby carrier.

Krysta Morlan
Krysta Morlan invented a device that relieves the irritation caused by wearing a cast - the cast cooler.(bit random!?)

Ellen Ochoa
Ochoa invented optical analysis systems and was the world's first Hispanic female astronaut.

Mister Tonka wrote:

<quoted text>We're talking presidents here.
-president of Proctor & Gamble's feminine and health care division
-worldwide president of the company's pharmaceutical group
Sorry if I'm not going to buy into the idea that they have no power as to the direction of there companies and are at the mercy of the men.

I think that's more true now that it was even a couple decades ago. I think things are still changing and that male-driven agendas from decades past affect the state-of-the-art today. Older generations did not put a lot emphasis on female sexuality, and still a lot of doctors will dismiss a woman's claims that sex is painful. In various advice columns, I've read letters from women seeking advice after their doctor basically told them to suck it up. If many doctors in the 21st century are still dismissing these issues, how readily do you think research into them was to get 20 or 50 years ago?

RedheadwGlasses wrote:

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The president isn't all powerful at a big pharma company. There's a board of directors to report to (they have more power than the president), there are shareholders who demand profits....

Right, but they are not calling the shots as to the direction of the company. They hire the president to do that. Surely if this problem was as big as yall make it out to be, there would be a market for it. Its no differnent than any other R&D project the company would sink money into. If there's a potential for profit, the board will be fine with it. If it turns into an exercise in flushing money down the toilet, yeah, heads will roll, regardless of if the research is on a drug for lady problems or something else.

You think the folks that developed viagra did so because the board was a bunch of men and could see themselves using it, but would nix an idea for a female geared drug because it focuses on a problem that does not/could not afflict them? BS. Its all about the benjamins.

RedheadwGlasses wrote:

By the way, Viagra does work on women. Just sayin'.

Actually, it doesn't work on women. I just finished reading Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex by Mary Roach and in it she talks about how Viagra was tested on and given to women in the hopes that it would work for them, but it does not. While some women may notice a difference, overall it does nothing for the majority of women. And, after reading that book, I think it should be required reading for every person the world over.

edogxxx wrote:

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For you and the LW, don't paint men as evil women oppressors focusing solely on ailments that affect men.

If the shoe fits...

LW1: Move into a bubble.

LW2: So, the dude is just supposed to quietly resign himself to the fact that for all practical purposes his spouse and him are roommates/friends and his sex life is over at 40? That would be a non-starter for me. Heck, having sex with a woman who only offers me pity sex and is never really into it would be a non-starter. That's boring.

Mister Tonka wrote:

<quoted text>Are there no women scientists? No women entrpreneurs? Who is this "sombody" that LW expects to find a remedy?

What about all the guys who have to spank it cause their wife says she hurts? It doesn't affect them? They don't want a cure? They don't care?

I think this theory is illogical.

plumloco wrote:

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Actually, it doesn't work on women. I just finished reading Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex by Mary Roach and in it she talks about how Viagra was tested on and given to women in the hopes that it would work for them, but it does not. While some women may notice a difference, overall it does nothing for the majority of women. And, after reading that book, I think it should be required reading for every person the world over.

Actually, it DOES work on women -- women who are on anti-depressants who find themselves with lowered sex drives are given Viagra because it increases genital blood flow.

RedheadwGlasses wrote:

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Actually, it DOES work on women -- women who are on anti-depressants who find themselves with lowered sex drives are given Viagra because it increases genital blood flow.

ACTUALLY, just as with many drugs, it works for some, and doesn't work for others.
Penicillin will cure me of an infection, but it would just kill Bear.

LW2: There ARE products that can help with the physical discomfort if LW would make the effort to find a sympathetic and knowledgable physician. If LW is too embarrassed to do so, there's always Google.

However, I think the real problem is the lack of real caring, real communication and real intimacy from both parties. Whining to advice columnists isn't going to help and "getting it elsewhere" is just dragging a third party into the problem. Get marriage counseling along with the products.