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They have a word for whats going on. Similar things happen back with previous wars to mount public support. It's called propaganda. Personally I want to see hard evidence, and a little less of he said that you saww that person say that his friend stole. Please get some facts reporters are shut your mouths.

MLD91 wrote:

Over 10,000 days since OSU last beat Michigan in football legitimatelly.
Get used to your *

So how about all the other teams that Michigan played. Did they cheat? Admit it, Michigan's has a weak football team.

This is one of the few honest writeups I have read by reporters:
Phil Harrison – OSU’s Punishment Should Be Less Than USC’s
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It’s easy to get caught up in the passion of the moment and debate the mystery of what necessitates a “major NCAA violation”, and in so doing consider them all the same. While we’re at it, we would be remiss not to reiterate the obvious - that so far, despite the musings of Sports Illustrated, ESPN, and others, OSU has only been found to have had its coach lie about the covering up of the tattoo scandal. Remember, the players involved in said incident have already made their mea culpas and received their punishment.
It wouldn’t be the first time that ESPN has overblown a story (see Maurice Clarett and Les Miles going to Michigan as exhibits A and B). A story built on allegations and a piling on of offenses from what appear to be everyone with an axe to grind is never the worst case scenario. The lesson to remember here is never drink the toxic poison until after checking the vitals (think Romeo and Juliet).
Everybody calm down.
So, with what we have on the table then as known acts requiring penance – which is the only way you can answer this question – there is a strong argument to support a less severe punishment for Ohio State than what was doled out to USC as a result of the Reggie Bush fiasco.

If some of the other allegations can be substantiated by the NCAA, perhaps then the two situations become closer, but OSU's situation still doesn’t reach the level of abominations as those that occurred at USC. The Ohio State program should and will get hit hard by the NCAA, but if the ultimate outcome equals or surpasses USC, I would find no fault with Buckeye Nation getting

Could not post all the story so here is the link:
http://cfn.scout.com/2/1078274.html

Former OSU fan wrote:

O.k. New story on ESPN, the GM of private golf course(hint, hint, named source) says that TP and Talbott played multiple times. The GM(hint, hint, NAMED SOURCE) says called Tressel, but Tressel never followed up in it.
Yea, I will trust a defense lawyer....go ahead and stick your head in the sand..or up your ****, and you shut up.

Well ..... is hint hint the name of the gm ? Or are you like ESPN and SI and you are to coward to name him ? Oh ..... wait I guess I can goggle the name under named sources .... shoot his is probably the only one !

Phil wrote:

Also, a lot of people are b*llshitting around with the whole "death penalty" think. Ain't gonna happen, no matter what. Not with a program like OSU that brings in $$$ for the NCAA and for football. OSU has the country's largest alumni base, probably some of the best traveling fans, and you better believe that the NCAA will take money into account during this ruling.
Another thing -- let them take away scholarships. OSU averages only 20 recruits a year as it is, which is 5 less than the B10 allows, and second lowest in the B10. Take away scholarships and it won't have an effect on anything. Take away bowl games and it won't affect anything. Everyone forgets that OSU is the only real football program in Ohio and kids STILL want to play there, no matter what the state of the program is.

The NCAA wants to send a messaage to the other football programs and the way they will do that is with the DEATH PENALITY!!! Besides it will not cost the NCAA that much money. The football contracts are signed and there is no clause that says that the NCAA will get less money if OSU is not shown on TV. Sorry to tell you, but most of us football fans could care less about OSU which is always over-rated and CHOKES in Big games

Watching the ESPN 30 for 30 piece on SMU's years leading to probation and then death penalty shows why you can not 'work together' with a program to investigate the problems.

There are so many people/boosters, students, and staff involved in a dirty situation that as a group, they have no choice but to NOT co-operate.

Once the money/favors starts moving, once the individuals know about it, anyone can turn to the other and say, "Keep me out of it or I'll blow the lid off this thing".

When people like Talbott get involved, when players start getting the benefits over time, the university can not come completely clean because those very people can turn on them. Thus the people in the university who can be hurt the most, President, AD, Head coach- become pawns to the system.

The NCAA needs to operate totally independant and not expect the universities under seige to come clean. They can't. Too many people. Too many layers. Too much information in a boat where everybody is trying to save themselves.

Phil wrote:

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...Also, have you ever been to Columbus? Haven't seen a cow farmer within about 30 miles of the city. I can guarantee there're more farmers, hicks, and uneducated morons in South Carolina than in Ohio.

You are showing your ignorance when you associate farmers with hicks and uneducated morons.(I didn't say you were stupid - I say that you are ignorant, because you simply don't know what you don't know.) Have you visited a modern full time family farm lately? The education and experience required to be a successful farmer would suprise you. I'd bet $1000 that you would not be able to to do what today's farmer does - at least not without considerable training over an extended period of several years. It's because farmers produce food that you can sit around with a full belly and talk BS.

Most people today are not capable of producing enough food to feed their family. You should be grateful that farmers keep the food available for you to buy at reasonable prices in the grocery stores. You like a good steak? Thank a "cow farmer"! Don't belittle farmers with your mouth full. That would be hypocritical - and you don't want to be that , do you?

By the way, I do have a degree in agriculture from The Ohio State University, with minors in math and chemistry. I'll wait and see what the results are of the NCAA investigations before I open my mouth and speak about things of which I really don't know all the facts.

GATOR GARY wrote:

<quoted text> The NCAA wants to send a messaage to the other football programs and the way they will do that is with the DEATH PENALITY!!! Besides it will not cost the NCAA that much money. The football contracts are signed and there is no clause that says that the NCAA will get less money if OSU is not shown on TV. Sorry to tell you, but most of us football fans could care less about OSU which is always over-rated and CHOKES in Big games

I know you. Your mom's maiden name is Chewbacca.

If terrell pryor is not doing anything wrong why does he have a lawyer

Michigan didn't make the top 25. But that's really not at all related to what's going on at OSU now. Any player at any school charged with a crime will be dealt with by the legal system, any player violating NCAA rules will be dealt with by the NCAA. Some offenses may violate both the law and NCAA rules but, otherwise, it's apples and oranges.
The Sports Illustrated article is at this address (I wonder what's up with Pitt!):
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers...

Again, I don't read on the weekends, but this is EXACTLY why ESPN is complete BS. If Stonum has 2 DUI's that would be AT LEAST 1 arrest. That, in turn, should put them in 24th above TCU. Or maybe I just can't add.

ALSO:

-In 09 a UM player was arrested for sexual assault.

-In 08 Mike Milano was arrested for assaulting a UM hockey player.

-In 08 Kevin Grady arrested for DUI

-In 2008, Cissoko was cited for an alcohol violation in the early-morning hours after Michigan’s 35-21 loss to Michigan State. When he failed to pay a $250 fine, a warrant was issued for his arrest. He was later arrested for possession of marijuana.

- 07 Carson Butler, 19, of Detroit, and Christian Richards III, 19, of Pacoima, Calif., are charged with one count each of aggravated assault, and assault and battery, said campus police spokeswoman Diane Brown. The aggravated assault charge is a one-year misdemeanor, while the assault and battery charge is a 93-day misdemeanor.

That was in about 10 minutes of investigation, but by all means scUM fan, keep thinking your glass house is not only clean, but that it also doesn't smell like shTT!.

Ron- two things clever guy. Numbers in an IQ are side by side or sometimes called a series, not a list. Also, you did not (cannot?) read the question. IQ not a choice.