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TOASTER
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Krypteia wrote: <quoted text>LOL.You were that ugly as a baby your incubator had tinted glass..and being a typical overweight jellybelly yank i bet even your car has stretch marks.. I have a large car -- no need for stretch marks. How is prison life treating you.
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Sheik Yerbouti
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US Empire wrote: Well the Euro-Trash are extremely jealous of their American Saviours/Masters
theres nothing to do in Europe except live in envy of that day when they can one day leave there horrible life in that putrid filth continent and move to the United States of America
The Sun never sets on the American Empire Hey skippy the average European has a much higher standard of living than the average amerikan worker. Better health care too! You have been brainwashed by rethug fascists!
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If you're in prison you don't have a life, you have an existence. On the topic of me not having a life. I look out my back window and see water and a beautiful golf course. I'm playing at 7:35 AM tomorrow morning. What are you doing ?? Giving a bj to one of your lonely cell mates ? Glad to hear you love prison. Note that most of the ignorant comments are by amerikans that have never left their trailer parks! Typical rethugs and loudmouthed right wingers! These are morons who fondle themselves while watching beckerhead!
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“Kachina dances in the plaza”
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Truth Hurts wrote: Jamaicans have come to this country and flooded the land of England with thier language, violent and perverted culture that brainwaishes black youths as well as other races that selling drugs and having the bling bling is the way to live the life. Jamaicans promote this whole gangerism lifestyle Britain is still a very class divided society, in spite of politicians efforts to convince people that it does not exist. A large underclass has developed in the UK due to endless policy failures in relation to housing and education. It doesn't matter where you live, even in a nice area, if there is a large estate nearby you will find the same level of ignorance and violence as most other estates. I've been to affluent areas where the chavs act like they are living in south central LA, but this is Britain, we dont have ghettos with the same level of violence and murder as in the USA. We have a generous welfare state, universal health care for what its worth, yet chav scum everywhere act like they are living in "da hood", or if your from London "road life blud you get me". Kids on estates are undeniably influenced by west Indian subculture, which encourages bigotry, fecklessness, abandonment of children by fathers, celebration of ignorance etc. Chavs in England are functionally illiterate, only able to speak Jafaican English, that includes the white kids, who have profound identity problems. A previous poster mentioned that he was pro rioting, against the forces of unaccountable multinationals and their political corporate cronies. Yes, I agree with this, but what cause were these morons "fighting" for? They were nothing more than looters, I didn't see a single politicians house torched, just working class people badly looted and beaten up. Starkey was on the right track, but he chewed his words. I can't speak for other cities, but London has a massive chav problem, and they are all influenced by Jamaican culture. I don't see any of them imitating Chinese or Indians, do you?
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sven
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Sheik Yerbouti wrote: <quoted text>Note that most of the ignorant comments are by amerikans that have never left their trailer parks! Typical rethugs and loudmouthed right wingers! These are morons who fondle themselves while watching beckerhead! I come to USA and find some peoples stupid. Before I live USA in Europe there are too much paki and blackie peoples in Europe. Most criminal too. In USA they shoot criminal in the face and then laugh and more beers. I like USA okay a little bit.
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The backlash after the murder of Mark Duggan was understandable. Years of frustration, and institutional racism created a powder kegg that was going to explode. The looting on the other hand was sheer criminality. I'm a Brit who lives in the US and it seemed like the mid 80's all over again. The police have a racist mandate to stop and search black youth and the sheer frustration over such a openly racist policy came to a head. I know the police have a tough job to do, but its glaringly apparent that the stop and search laws are directed towards blacks. The riots are shame and its time the British government took stock and realized that years of its racist policy came to a head. The materialistic world that we now live in has our youth chasing after the latest gadget and sneakers long gone is the ethic of hard work payinv its own reward. Years of involvement in wars overseas have sapped the nations resources and created an almost police state. When l left England there were no CCTV cameras people would not have had it. Now austerity is going to rip out the small joys that our children once had libraries, swimming pools. What's happened to my beloved England?
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John
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martin Springfield Gardens, NY Stop talking shit. This sambo was a drug dealer. The riots should have been killed and their bodies dumped in front of their parents houses. There is no excuse for this behaviour.
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“Kachina dances in the plaza”
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martin wrote: The backlash after the murder of Mark Duggan was understandable. Years of frustration, and institutional racism created a powder kegg that was going to explode. The looting on the other hand was sheer criminality. I'm a Brit who lives in the US and it seemed like the mid 80's all over again. The police have a racist mandate to stop and search black youth and the sheer frustration over such a openly racist policy came to a head. I know the police have a tough job to do, but its glaringly apparent that the stop and search laws are directed towards blacks. The riots are shame and its time the British government took stock and realized that years of its racist policy came to a head. The materialistic world that we now live in has our youth chasing after the latest gadget and sneakers long gone is the ethic of hard work payinv its own reward. Years of involvement in wars overseas have sapped the nations resources and created an almost police state. When l left England there were no CCTV cameras people would not have had it. Now austerity is going to rip out the small joys that our children once had libraries, swimming pools. What's happened to my beloved England? The resources you mentioned were pissed away by expenditure on illegal wars, unjustifiable nuclear missile upgrades, profligate lending and of course, banks gambling in the international debt markets. What has happened to England is the same thing that is happening all over the world, nations are becoming nothing but markets for elites who have no loyalties and respect no national boundaries. They are shaping the mentality of the disaffected, making them want things they can never have, and miss out on what they really need.
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PCposhBoysPoodle
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Britain is still a very class divided society, in spite of politicians efforts to convince people that it does not exist. A large underclass has developed in the UK due to endless policy failures in relation to housing and education. Yes,there is a very large underclass in UK ,made up of black,brown and white people, caused by Conservative and New Labour governments who never represented this underclass to help them,but instead target them for more draconian policies that criminalize,subjugate and devalue. Therefore excluding many from the workforce etc etc Sweet Medicine wrote: <quoted text>A previous poster mentioned that he was pro rioting, against the forces of unaccountable multinationals and their political corporate cronies. Yes, I agree with this, but what cause were these morons "fighting" for? They were nothing more than looters, I didn't see a single politicians house torched, just working class people badly looted and beaten up. The reason why these riots started is partly because of consecutive governments' policies, but also that the police think the underclass are an easy group target, that they can pick on,brutalize and murdem them, then lie about it by changing the story many times, as was the case of Mark Duggan death. The police have had to take a good hiding due to revenge against the police's own vicious behaviours. This happened Carnival '76 where policemen were properly dealt with, Tottenham '85, Poll Tax '90 and now Aug 11, The Met Police have murdered many people in their custody and think they are untouchable. That maybe the case with regards to the British Criminal Justice System but when people rise up on the street, people will dish out their own justice against the police knowing that is the only justice the police will receive.
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PCposhBoysPoodle wrote: <quoted text>
The reason why these riots started is partly because of consecutive governments' policies, but also that the police think the underclass are an easy group target, that they can pick on,brutalize and murdem them, then lie about it by changing the story many times, as was the case of Mark Duggan death.
The police have had to take a good hiding due to revenge against the police's own vicious behaviours. This happened Carnival '76 where policemen were properly dealt with, Tottenham '85, Poll Tax '90 and now Aug 11,
The Met Police have murdered many people in their custody and think they are untouchable. That maybe the case with regards to the British Criminal Justice System but when people rise up on the street, people will dish out their own justice against the police knowing that is the only justice the police will receive. Mark Duggan was shot because he was a gangster, he led a life that was bound to lead to a violent death. The police are certainly not angels, but I just can't see how the rioting was in anyway a political protest. The police did not receive any justice, but thousands of working class people and their businesses were subjected to unwarranted vandalism and assault. Is this how the rioters got back at the police, or by throwing rocks and heavily armed riot police? I don't see it. There are a lot of people living in the same conditions as the gangs of rioters, but did not react in the same way. Not that I am against armed protest, but only when the cause is just. Smashing shops to steal trainers and other chavvy bling is not a justifiable cause. The rioters act that way by nature, and find Duggan's death a convenient way to excuse their opportunist behaviour.
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“Fly low, fly fast.”
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Sweet Medicine, that was brilliantly put.
Unfortunately PCposhBoysPoodle is one of those socialist thugs that hates society and is an angry individual who can excuse anything anti establishment because it suits his socialist agenda. He will happily riot against some injustices while standing back and keeping quiet about the real problems in society.
He will be the first to call the Police when something goes wrong in his own pitiful life but would quite happily stab them in the back (metaphorically) whenever the chance shows itself.
I see the results of his sort of behaviour everyday at work and in the news. His sort will get their cummuppance one day.
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Classless
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Sweet Medicine wrote: <quoted text>
Britain is still a very class divided society, in spite of politicians efforts to convince people that it does not exist. A large underclass has developed in the UK due to endless policy failures in relation to housing and education. It doesn't matter where you live, even in a nice area, if there is a large estate nearby you will find the same level of ignorance and violence as most other estates. I've been to affluent areas where the chavs act like they are living in south central LA, but this is Britain, we dont have ghettos with the same level of violence and murder as in the USA. We have a generous welfare state, universal health care for what its worth, yet chav scum everywhere act like they are living in "da hood", or if your from London "road life blud you get me".
Kids on estates are undeniably influenced by west Indian subculture, which encourages bigotry, fecklessness, abandonment of children by fathers, celebration of ignorance etc. Chavs in England are functionally illiterate, only able to speak Jafaican English, that includes the white kids, who have profound identity problems.
A previous poster mentioned that he was pro rioting, against the forces of unaccountable multinationals and their political corporate cronies. Yes, I agree with this, but what cause were these morons "fighting" for? They were nothing more than looters, I didn't see a single politicians house torched, just working class people badly looted and beaten up.
Starkey was on the right track, but he chewed his words. I can't speak for other cities, but London has a massive chav problem, and they are all influenced by Jamaican culture. I don't see any of them imitating Chinese or Indians, do you? What is a 'sub-culture'? What 'culture' are you?, Maybe you have identity problems. Are the so called 'middle class' a sub-culture to the 'Upper class'? The working class even a more inferior 'culture'in your eyes? Were the poll tax riots and violence against the police the fault of Jamaicans?, football hooliganism?, fights aginst Mods and Rockers?, Northern Ireland? The Falklands, The Krays? The north south divide? Need I look for more examples to show you how lacking your intellect is. Maybe if you were kinder in the first place to the 'chavs' they might respect you. The 'royals' have plenty of 'Bling'it makes people feel 'worthy' when no none loves them.
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“Fly low, fly fast.”
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Chavs are a selfish lot with no care for others or society. I see them every day at work and beyond my duties I certainly have no time for them.
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Classless wrote: <quoted text>
What is a 'sub-culture'? What 'culture' are you?, Maybe you have identity problems. Are the so called 'middle class' a sub-culture to the 'Upper class'? The working class even a more inferior 'culture'in your eyes? Were the poll tax riots and violence against the police the fault of Jamaicans?, football hooliganism?, fights aginst Mods and Rockers?, Northern Ireland? The Falklands, The Krays? The north south divide? Need I look for more examples to show you how lacking your intellect is. Maybe if you were kinder in the first place to the 'chavs' they might respect you. The 'royals' have plenty of 'Bling'it makes people feel 'worthy' when no none loves them. I would define a subculture as outside of the mainstream culture. So describing chav culture as a subculture, or yardie culture as a subculture, is quite accurate. Unless you are thick enough to think that yardie culture is the mainstream of Jamaican culture. You have a chip because Dugan got shot but as I said, that had nothing to do with the motivations of most rioters. Class exists in Britain because it is just entrenched in the culture, I was making the point that chavs, a subset of the working classes in my view. You make them sound like helpless children, who I have to be nice to because I've done something wrong to them. They terrorise neighbourhoods all over Britain, and promote a culture of dumbing down and celebration of stupidity. Their behaviour has nothing to do with me not being nice to them. They don't respect anything they don't understand in their own terms; respect means something very different to them than it does to me.
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American Empire
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well the funny thing is that these riots are the the only thing that was herd out of England from the 67 years it was like after we PROUND AMERICANS defeated Hitler singlehandedly, ur tiny artic island fell of the face of the earth and noone herd from u till now maybe you should have more riots and class warfare and hopefully u wont get ignored for anothe 67 years people will enjoy watching u EuroTrash acting like the Bafoons and Savages you have always been since man first evolved from apes
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kuldip kaur
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Duggan was singled out and shot deliberately in order to turn the heat down over the corruption scandal over Andy Coulson, only problem was that the riot became riots...Why was the evidence over Mark Duggan removed and put back again? Its a corrupt society and by dividing the people, its the people who loose out over their freedom and liberties.
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American psycho
London, UK
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Sweet Medicine wrote: <quoted text>
I would define a subculture as outside of the mainstream culture. So describing chav culture as a subculture, or yardie culture as a subculture, is quite accurate. Unless you are thick enough to think that yardie culture is the mainstream of Jamaican culture.
You have a chip because Dugan got shot but as I said, that had nothing to do with the motivations of most rioters. Class exists in Britain because it is just entrenched in the culture, I was making the point that chavs, a subset of the working classes in my view. You make them sound like helpless children, who I have to be nice to because I've done something wrong to them. They terrorise neighbourhoods all over Britain, and promote a culture of dumbing down and celebration of stupidity. Their behaviour has nothing to do with me not being nice to them. They don't respect anything they don't understand in their own terms; respect means something very different to them than it does to me. Please describe the 'mainstream culture' to me.'They don't respect anything they don't understand in their own terms;' Does that no apply to most people? Where in my post did I mention that that particular shooting had anything to do with the rioting throughout the country. I never mentioned it as a cause , you assumed that is what I meant. I happen to agree with you that it was hijacked by some people to express their own anger towards numerous things that we are watching on the news day in day out, i.e. corruption in institutions, media, and with polititians, banks, tax evasion welfare abuse, endless crime not all commited by 'chavs' or 'yardies' as you call them, some were from 'rich' so called 'decent' backgrounds, some people mindlessly follow, some of the looting pure opportunism. Mark Duggans family did not join the riots and they had more reason than anyone to do so, they actually appealed for calm. What does respect mean to you?
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Classless
London, UK
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What is a 'sub-culture'? What 'culture' are you?, Maybe you have identity problems. Are the so called 'middle class' a sub-culture to the 'Upper class'? The working class even a more inferior 'culture'in your eyes? Were the poll tax riots and violence against the police the fault of Jamaicans?, football hooliganism?, fights aginst Mods and Rockers?, Northern Ireland? The Falklands, The Krays? The north south divide? Need I look for more examples to show you how lacking your intellect is. Maybe if you were kinder in the first place to the 'chavs' they might respect you. The 'royals' have plenty of 'Bling'it makes people feel 'worthy' when no none loves them. Just sent a post with a different name, relevant to another post on a different forum. sorry.
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So what if a few middle class kids joined in the riots? They were just as unjustified as the people you lionise as hero's standing up for, well what exactly, new trainers? Give me a break. They had no cause, there was no organised common cause amongst the rioters, it was not like the demonstrations going on worldwide for legitimate reasons, such as standing up against the corruption you mention. As for chav scum, love them if you will, but they are a pox on our society, as much as the thieving politicians who rule us, and who create and maintain class divisions which produced the chav phenomenon in the first place.
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