The language police come to Ontario..Is your province next?

Jun 20, 2012 | Posted by: Monckton News - Views | Full story: fullcomment.nationalpost.com

The wish of some Ontario francophones to live in a fantasy world regarding the importance of the French language outweighs their neighbours’ Charter right to freedom of expression — according to the Ontario Court of Appeal.

Okay, okay — that’s not quite how the court put it. But that is nevertheless the essence of last week’s decision in the case of Jean-Serge Brisson and Howard Galganov against Russell Township.

Four years ago, 70% of the commercial signs outside businesses in Russell Township (a municipality of about 15,000 people near Ottawa) were bilingual. For a group of francophone zealots, 70% wasn’t enough. They entreated town council to make bilingual signs mandatory for all businesses.

The proposal was highly controversial among both anglophones and francophones. Two local chambers of commerce opposed it. A committee struck by council recommended against it. Nevertheless, council passed the by-law by a 3-2 vote, requiring all new exterior commercial signs to be bilingual, with the dimension and style of lettering being identical in French and English.

Jean-Serge Brisson owns a radiator repair shop in Russell. Despite being fully bilingual, Brisson erected a non-compliant sign, with his business name solely in English and his services listed solely in French. Brisson then challenged the by-law, together with bilingual anglophone Howard Galganov (who had posted a sign written entirely in English).

The two were slapped down by Justice Métivier of the Superior Court of Justice in a 2010 judgment that I described in an article back then as “disturbingly illogical”. Unfortunately, last week’s decision from the Ontario Court of Appeal was not much better.

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Paul

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Wow, such objective reporting. What a narrow minded way of thinking. It's people like you who are making this country worse by robbing it of its culture and diversity. Instead of promoting intolerance, why not encourage multilingualism and start catching up with the rest of the world, most of whom can speak more than one language
bilingualandprou dofit

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Thank you Paul, glad to find someone with real brains on here !
I feel I must warn you that you are loosing your time trying to convince the likes of Daryl Doucette, Robert K Monckton, Monckton News-views, Tiger Williams, James Wolf and quite a few others from the Anglo-Society who roam on here. They all live in their own deluded world of paranoia and bigotry.
But still, it's refreshing to see someone who understands that the mind is like a parachute, it works much better when you open it !

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Paul ,where have you been hiding ? Oh , I just noticed, you're from Quebec.

Europe has proven that multilingualism and multiculturalism are failures.

If Quebec will not allow them then why should the rest of Canada?

English is the lingua franca of the civilized and developing world.
bilingualandprou dofit

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Robert K Monckton wrote:
English is the lingua franca of the civilized and developing world.
WOW !!! You really think a lot of yourself, don't you Bobby !!! But I have news for you, get your learning cap on because if we are talking about the language of the civilized and developing world, I think it is fair to say that Mandarin, Cantonese and Punjabi are quite ahead of Ye Old English language. You and your descendants don't have to worry about learning French, start learning the Chinese and Indian languages, because they are the majority in the world's population and they are taking over, in population size and economically. How far in debts are the US ? Well they owe most of those trillions to China. Guess what, if China decides to collect, we will be neighbor's to a new Chinese country !!! So yeah, stop worrying about us frogs and take out your chop sticks !!! Wǎn ān to you sir !
bilingualandprou dofit

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Jun 21, 2012
 
Won't take accents... So Wan an !(without the proper accents on the As
daryl doucette

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"doofus" you make a good point here. Really if there are going to be 2 official languages in canada, which of course there should not be, the other one should be some sort of asian dialect as they far out number francophones OUTSIDE of kebec, oh and Paul from Montreal i fully encourage you and all your franco family and friends to get on the campaign trail and re-ignite the separatist movement, the sooner you kebecers leave canada the better! bon voyage....
notme

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Jun 22, 2012
 
for sure it should be asian dialect and French nothing else
bilingualandprou dofit

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Jun 22, 2012
 
It'll Mandarine & Punjabi.... F*ck English & French, we can't communicate properly between ourselves, it seems!
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Jun 26, 2012
 
Robert K Monckton wrote:
Paul ,where have you been hiding ? Oh , I just noticed, you're from Quebec.
Europe has proven that multilingualism and multiculturalism are failures.
If Quebec will not allow them then why should the rest of Canada?
English is the lingua franca of the civilized and developing world.
Robert, I wish people like you didn't have keyboards. You make me think of white supremacists. Hatred passed down from generation to generation. Here's to hoping you don't have any children.

Franco-ontariens feel as welcome in Ontario as you would in a post-secondary institution. Post-secondary means college or university btw.
daryl doucette

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Jun 26, 2012
 
We'll see how "welcome" franc-ontarions are in Ontario as soon as the "anglo-ontarians" start getting eliminated from promotions, and new jobs because they can't speak the language of the minority, and the franco-ontarians swoop in and get those jobs...that is what is going on here in NB and is what Robert Monckton is referring to. And you f'ers start calling english people supremisists, rascists and bigots every time english rights are mentioned by them. Well guess what? If you don't like it, go F%$# yourself mr francotarian....and good luck trying to take over ontario.

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francotarien wrote:
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Robert, I wish people like you didn't have keyboards. You make me think of white supremacists. Hatred passed down from generation to generation. Here's to hoping you don't have any children.
So now it's considered spreading hate to speak the truth is it?

BTW, all my children and grandchildren are doing just fine, no thanks to OB.
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from from what i hear fully bilingual
francotarien

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daryl doucette wrote:
We'll see how "welcome" franc-ontarions are in Ontario as soon as the "anglo-ontarians" start getting eliminated from promotions, and new jobs because they can't speak the language of the minority, and the franco-ontarians swoop in and get those jobs...that is what is going on here in NB and is what Robert Monckton is referring to. And you f'ers start calling english people supremisists, rascists and bigots every time english rights are mentioned by them. Well guess what? If you don't like it, go F%$# yourself mr francotarian....and good luck trying to take over ontario.
That already happens in Ontario. It's just a reality and if you're angry about that then blame the employers (private sector) not the person applying for the job. Or would you prefer that francophones get last crack at applying for jobs?

Only Robert reminds me of supremisists not the entirety of english people. Nice try! I've read many of his posts over the last few days and what he has to say is filled with hate with a few of his 'facts' thrown in for evil mesure.

There's got to be a better way to go about resolving these issues than getting angry on the Internet! You have a right to your opinion and so do I. But there has to be a better way to discuss this than forcing franco-ontariens to move to Quebec. Seriously, that's just sad!
daryl doucette

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I would prefer that francophones get as many jobs that reflect the percentage of them in a given area. no more, no less. this whole bilingualism bs was invented by french to give an advantage of french over english, pure and simple. And that frenchman was pierre elliot trudeau.
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so like i said before the French people must be very good workers in order to provide welfare to all the unemployed English that claims they are the majority of the jobless and all the French have the jobs .....

on the same token those people the English (well anglo saxon ones ) says they are the majority and the French are the minority so therefore it either means that the French are paying way more in taxes (since they are the minority and are the only ones employed according to the AnglSaxon)
than anybody else in the world to support the lazy people that do not want to work or learn another language
bilingualandprou dofit

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Francotarien, don't even try reasoning with Bobby, he is short a few and doesn't understand much. He lives in his own fabricated paranoid world where everything not Anglo-Saxon is evil and is out to get him. He is beyond hope or salvation!
bilingualandprou dofit

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daryl doucette wrote:
I would prefer that francophones get as many jobs that reflect the percentage of them in a given area. no more, no less. this whole bilingualism bs was invented by french to give an advantage of french over english, pure and simple. And that frenchman was pierre elliot trudeau.
"Douche" If we'd stick to your reasoning, that would mean that in a 99% Anglophone region, where a job of Mechanical Engineer would be available, the Bilingual French person from Moncton would not be able to get the job, but Bubba, that has been a mechanic at Joe's garage for 3 years, could, all because he is part of the majority of that region. Yup, makes sense to me !!! NOT !!!!!!!!!
bilingualandprou dofit

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Oh, by the way, just so you understand real good... The guy from Moncton is a Mechanical Engineer with at least 10 years experience.
daryl doucette

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oooh you french extremists sure hate the english extremists eh? HOW DARE anyone question the god of bilingualism?
daryl doucette

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Jun 26, 2012
 
maybe your french guy should stay out of the 99% region....you don't see les maudit anglais going to 99% franco regions do ya?

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