175,000 Truck Drivers could lose there job

175,000 Truck Drivers could lose there job starting in July, 2010.

Have you heard if CSA 2010? If not you will be hearing a lot about it beginning next year.

CSA 2010 could cost you thousands of dollars in fines and lost revenue due to "truck drivers" being declared “Unfit”. An estimated 175,000 truckers will lose their Jobs when CSA 2010 is implemented.

RIGHT NOW DATA ABOUT YOUR DRIVING Record is being recorded by D.O.T. for YOUR DRIVER SAFETY RATING when FMCSA's New CSA 2010 goes into effect.

Most motor carriers and drivers haven't heard of CSA 2010, yet it is quite massive in its scope, and represents a major change in the way the FMCSA audits companies.

Perhaps the most profound change, and how this affects individual drivers are going to be audited and each will be given a personal safety rating. This personal safety rating will determine weather or not the driver is considered eligible to continue driving or requires some sort of intervention.

Data used to calculate your safety rating comes from Roadside inspections, traffic violations (citations) and crash data. A new Driver safety rating will be determined EACH MONTH!

CSA 2010 intends to use new data--such as information from police accident reports about driver-related factors contributing to a crash--and improve existing data sources--by, for example, using its database of licensed commercial drivers to identify all drivers with convictions for unsafe driving practices, as well as the carriers they work for--to enable a more precise assessment of safety problems.

It is anticipated that full implementation of CSA 2010 by FMCSA will begin on or around July 1, 2010. read More at http://www.smart-trucking-jobs.com/csa2010.ht...

I wish they would include the fat smelly bastards and ho's that run the roads who dont know how to keep themselves clean and give the industry such a bad name....

I think this is a good ideal to get some of these clowns off the road. Some of these guys they speed tailgate other drivers and they give us all A bad name good ridens maybe after this we can have a safer highway with out these bad apples.

yeah rite just like CDLs where going to improve safety,here come another way to scam and sell under the table .......hi gov ryan did ur kids keep their jobs and loot?

Oh, clean up our industry? IM IN!!!! We have to many scumbags out here. Get rid of these fat, stinky morons and that frees up some freight. Seriously. We have had a bad image for too long from the trash out here. I'm all for taking it some of it out. Not to mention we will be able to walk through a truckstop without puking from the strong smell of piss because these pigs cant be bothered to walk twenty feet to the bathroom. BRING IT ON!!

jo-pa wrote:

I wish they would include the fat smelly bastards and ho's that run the roads who dont know how to keep themselves clean and give the industry such a bad name....

sounds like you know a lot about it

It sounds and smells fishy to me theres something about money with this provision when all said and done and of couse lawyers.Congress is one Big Whorehouse.

Congress is the only whorehouse in America that doesn't make any money.

Good, it will increase utilization for drivers who know what they're doing.

We also need to get some of the older trucks off the road, need a forced obsolescence/scrap program for anything older than 10 years.

Burned Up wrote:

Good, it will increase utilization for drivers who know what they're doing.
We also need to get some of the older trucks off the road, need a forced obsolescence/scrap program for anything older than 10 years.

thats a smart move spend 120000 dollars work 7 or 8 yrs to pay for it then scrap it keep on trucking newby

how long does it take to figure out your getting the short end of the stick in trucking "driver"plenty of new share croppers out there joining the zombie club

showboat wrote:

<quoted text>thats a smart move spend 120000 dollars work 7 or 8 yrs to pay for it then scrap it keep on trucking newby

It won't take someone line myself 7 or 8 years to pay off a $120K truck there slapnutz. I don't know what you haul for, but I make a good coin, and I do it in style. Now go shave and drop about 50lbs and you'll pull some good freight you goochlicker.

How do you figure congress doesnt make money? i have never heard of congressman getting laid off or asking for pay cuts or losing pensions. i have never heard of congress selling out to union pressures and i certainly never heard of congress shutting down operations because they lost money....wake up a--hole, government is the biggest whore house in the world, and were all a bunch of their Deciples..........

There's probably plenty that shouldn't be out there, but isn't this more government interference with private industry? Sounds good to me as a newbee for finding a job and such but, what's next? What did I forget from who knows when? You had a parking ticket 10 years ago so we determine if you can work. Training for trucking as it was is a real eye opener as to how much more intense TT driving is compared to other commercial trucks, now the government will put more data bases to exclude possibly some hard working people out that were working doing their jobs. Load of horse shit is all. Stimulus my ass the government is doing more to put people out of work than at work. My records are pretty clean as far as I know, but did I jay walk 25 years ago? So much for courts punishing people then no double jeopardy, just a new way around it. Feel bad for those that do and their families that will scramble to support them. Welcome to socialist America.

Ok, maybe this needs to be explained to the small minded. This is clearly about drivers who should NOT be out here. On the roads now we have some pretty horrible people. I know, I drive the lower 48. There are people who have been caught with drugs, driving while drinking, reckless driving among other major offenses. What are you afraid of if you have not done those things? This isn's socialism. Stop watching Fox already. In almost every other industry where you deal with the public or that job prresents a risk to the public, there are safegaurds in place to make sure that the people who should not be put in those positions are not. Our industry should not be any different. Some of you either are the problem we have out here or refuse to believe that the things that happen out here actually happen. If you don't think government should "interfere" with private industry, then take all the safegaurds off the food indusrty. Oh, and don't forget to send your kids to a daycare that hasn't been checked out. Nevermind drug tests for drivers out here,we would not want them to "interfere" with those drivers. Stop being dumb.

EAS-E Auto wrote:

There's probably plenty that shouldn't be out there, but isn't this more government interference with private industry? Sounds good to me as a newbee for finding a job and such but, what's next? What did I forget from who knows when? You had a parking ticket 10 years ago so we determine if you can work. Training for trucking as it was is a real eye opener as to how much more intense TT driving is compared to other commercial trucks, now the government will put more data bases to exclude possibly some hard working people out that were working doing their jobs. Load of horse shit is all. Stimulus my ass the government is doing more to put people out of work than at work. My records are pretty clean as far as I know, but did I jay walk 25 years ago? So much for courts punishing people then no double jeopardy, just a new way around it. Feel bad for those that do and their families that will scramble to support them. Welcome to socialist America.

buy a truck get screwed the cherrypickers are going broke, has nothin to do whos a better driver,alot of olds boys and their kids are panicking if they'er cb aint perfect but take 45min to get into a dock

Bought 3 well financed 1 and leased 2 others, government minding my business of raising my kids took it (6 yrs of hard work, 6 trucks later) away. I have a legitimate gripe with government interference. The beauty in my picture was one of them. Now the same kid they force support for won't be able to inherit a company that wasn't exactly profitable but, was growing in sales just about to overcome the expenses ceased. Was the reason I upgraded to Class A as that's all I saw for jobs out there, and I know it isn't a perfect industry. My point was drivers already are drug tested, companies are responsible to request other drug or alcohol screening if they believe there is abuse, you as a driver should notify if aware of these someone, logbooks, DOT can/does inspect vehicles anytime they want, and to get a license there's a whole battery of skill tests. Bad drivers, ticket em and if too often lose their license. Bad companies - fine them if they don't pay their workers, overstep all worker rights laws, or write up bogus contracts. How much more is really needed? The good ole boys that got grandfathered in weren't subject to all the things us crappy newbees are, much like towing now requires endorsements, but not all had to even take the skills & road tests. Enough government BS! How much will the perfect drivers require and how much are you willing to pay for everything for that? Also is a problem with freight rates I know, I was bidding on light loads a few months ago and pay per mile sucked or I wouldn't waste my time responding I'd be making boucou dinaro. Government is already knee deep in trucking how much more is really needed? Maybe add credit checks to the list whether a driver can be employed at all? Open the floodgates, then try to stop it down river.

EAS-E Auto wrote:

....... Bad companies - fine them if they don't pay their workers, overstep all worker rights laws, or write up bogus contracts. How much more is really needed?..... Also is a problem with freight rates I know,.....

Re-regulate the freight rates, and the other problems would be easier to solve. When rates were regulated, pay was better (among the highest paid workers), and there were plenty of good, American drivers available. Now with companies hauling at or below cost, paying less then minimum wage, a lot of good drivers have left the industry. Sadly, the government is NOT interested in workers, or their rights.

Not sure why the government isn't interested in worker's rights, they get to tax every penny a person earns. Lower incomes mean only lower spending, and lower taxes or none paid. If a person can only buy essentials like food then the government earns no taxes. No ability to buy a home, no property taxes, no new car lower/no sales tax revenues, and the government spends what it won't take back in. Too many good people are being hurt, I'm really curious where the outcome is going to end up? Not very familiar with when freight was regulated but, if it is again, the DAC system is going to hurt a lot of good people. It's all a dog chasing it's tail playing out. The article stated adding another system to further put people out of work. One word "Fubar!"
Had a clean driving record that I knew of and abstracts back them up going to 94 at least, 90-94 was in the USMC-honorable, and I just ordered my DAC record as I never applied for this many jobs "ever" and can't find work to save my family! At this point my only thoughts are buy my own truck,(again) if I want to drive a rig. This new system is going to help the economy how? Who do you think really is going to sit in a truck 24/7 someone that with a Masters Degree that could earn 70K+/yr? Look at monster.com stats on education levels of drivers. Found a survey related to drivers. Now 175K of them can't work, or will soon.

EAS-E Auto wrote:

Bought 3 well financed 1 and leased 2 others, government minding my business of raising my kids took it (6 yrs of hard work, 6 trucks later) away. I have a legitimate gripe with government interference. The beauty in my picture was one of them. Now the same kid they force support for won't be able to inherit a company that wasn't exactly profitable but, was growing in sales just about to overcome the expenses ceased. Was the reason I upgraded to Class A as that's all I saw for jobs out there, and I know it isn't a perfect industry. My point was drivers already are drug tested, companies are responsible to request other drug or alcohol screening if they believe there is abuse, you as a driver should notify if aware of these someone, logbooks, DOT can/does inspect vehicles anytime they want, and to get a license there's a whole battery of skill tests. Bad drivers, ticket em and if too often lose their license. Bad companies - fine them if they don't pay their workers, overstep all worker rights laws, or write up bogus contracts. How much more is really needed? The good ole boys that got grandfathered in weren't subject to all the things us crappy newbees are, much like towing now requires endorsements, but not all had to even take the skills & road tests. Enough government BS! How much will the perfect drivers require and how much are you willing to pay for everything for that? Also is a problem with freight rates I know, I was bidding on light loads a few months ago and pay per mile sucked or I wouldn't waste my time responding I'd be making boucou dinaro. Government is already knee deep in trucking how much more is really needed? Maybe add credit checks to the list whether a driver can be employed at all? Open the floodgates, then try to stop it down river.

I agree with most of what you are saying but My CDL was grandfathered in with only taking the written exam. My record was clean then and is still clean today and I mean no accidents, tickets or DOT Violations. Yes alot of us older drivers do the job by what the new guys call "experienced guess" but it is experience and respect for the equipment that makes a good driver.
Because you go to school to get a CDL doesn't make a good driver. I have seen drivers fresh out of school that couldn't shift a truck to save his soul but call themselves truck drivers and I have seen some of their driving. In a few years it will be hard to even get a truck without a automatic transmission (just like pickup trucks). S#@t happens because drivers get too confident in themselves and begin to relax and thats when it happens. I don't understand this new 2010 thing since every one has a MVR and the system is supposed to prevent a driver from having more than one license so these matters should already be covered.