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GOP senator's plan would cut out immigrants

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SNEAKY IS AS sneaky does. One GOP senator has come up with a plan that sounds benign.

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Black Saint

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Nov 7, 2009
 

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Joe Legal vs. Jose Illegal
>
> Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is
> not economically productive for the United States. Try
> to follow along.
>
> You have two families: "Joe Legal" and "Jose
> Illegal" . Both families have two parents, two children,
> and live in California.
>
> Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social
> Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
>
> Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO
> Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under
> the table".
>
> Ready? Now pay attention...
>
> Joe Legal:$25.00 per hour x 40 hours =$1000.00 per
> week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for
> state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.
>
> Jose Illegal:$15.00 per hour x 40 hours =$600.00
> per week, or $31,200.00 per year. Jose Illegal pays no
> taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.
>
> Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited
> coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,
> 200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00.
>
> Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage
> through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00
> per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
>
> Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible
> for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per
> month for food, or $6,000.00 per year.
>
> Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.
>
> Jose Illegal has no documented income and is
> eligible for food stamps and welfare. Jose Illegal still
> has $31,200.00.
>
> Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,
> 400.00 per year.
>
> Joe Legal now has $9,631.00.
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> Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal
> rent subsidy.
>
> Jose Illegal pays $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00
> per year.
>
> Jose Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.
>
> Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance.
> Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.
>
> Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin'
> insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.
>
> Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay
> utilities, gasoline, etc.
>
> Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to
> payutilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the
> country every month.
>
> Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a
> part time job after work.
>
> Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy
> with his family.
>
> Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend
> the same school.
>
> Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose
> Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch.
> Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL
> program. Joe Legal's children go home.
>
> Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same
> police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose
> did not pay.
>
> Do you get it, now?
>
> If you vote for or support any politician that
> supports illegal aliens...
>
> You are part of the problem!
>
> It's way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!
>
>
>
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>
Black Saint

Oklahoma City, OK

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Meantime, with 15 million Americans without jobs & millions more underemployed the invasion continues, no Liberal Politician will address the 500 pound gorilla in the room, and millions of invading, plundering, welfare loving, prolific breeding, Illegal Aliens taking millions of jobs that should be American jobs and 100,s billions of dollars in social services that should be for American citizens!

One cannot be political correct and admit that Illegal Aliens are an large part of the problems in this Nation.

Their negative impact extends to every area from Sub-par loans & defaults, Underground economy, Massive document fraud, Lower standard of living, Crime, Overflowing prisons , Bankrupted hospitals, Failing schools, Property Taxes, Insurance costs, Environment, Culture, Welfare costs, Welfare fraud, SS fraud, Voter fraud, Disrespect for our laws & country, our Constitution against invasion and even Balance of payments occurring from oil and other imports to support the 20 to 30 million illegal aliens in this country!

One has to only look at Calif. which is basically mostly an Spanish speaking, Bankrupt state that cannot afford to provide Welfare, Schooling, Medical, Prison cells etc. for millions of MS-13 Gang bangers, Drug dealers, Rapist and other assorted Criminals and uneducated, Prolific breeding, third world rejects from Mexico!

In a very few years it will be impossible to see where Mexico ends and Calif. begins as both will be an third world cesspool!

Failure to secure our borders and reward the Invading horde for their invasion and their relatives in an never ending chain with American Citizenship is nothing less than committing National Suicide & will assure our future is an over populated Spanish speaking third world Nation that is an Cesspool of Corruption, Crime, Poverty and Misery modeled on Mexico!
jaime

Paradise, CA

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Black Saint wrote:
Meantime, with 15 million Americans without jobs & millions more underemployed the invasion continues, no Liberal Politician will address the 500 pound gorilla in the room, and millions of invading, plundering, welfare loving, prolific breeding, Illegal Aliens taking millions of jobs that should be American jobs and 100,s billions of dollars in social services that should be for American citizens!
One cannot be political correct and admit that Illegal Aliens are an large part of the problems in this Nation.
Their negative impact extends to every area from Sub-par loans & defaults, Underground economy, Massive document fraud, Lower standard of living, Crime, Overflowing prisons , Bankrupted hospitals, Failing schools, Property Taxes, Insurance costs, Environment, Culture, Welfare costs, Welfare fraud, SS fraud, Voter fraud, Disrespect for our laws & country, our Constitution against invasion and even Balance of payments occurring from oil and other imports to support the 20 to 30 million illegal aliens in this country!
One has to only look at Calif. which is basically mostly an Spanish speaking, Bankrupt state that cannot afford to provide Welfare, Schooling, Medical, Prison cells etc. for millions of MS-13 Gang bangers, Drug dealers, Rapist and other assorted Criminals and uneducated, Prolific breeding, third world rejects from Mexico!
In a very few years it will be impossible to see where Mexico ends and Calif. begins as both will be an third world cesspool!
Failure to secure our borders and reward the Invading horde for their invasion and their relatives in an never ending chain with American Citizenship is nothing less than committing National Suicide & will assure our future is an over populated Spanish speaking third world Nation that is an Cesspool of Corruption, Crime, Poverty and Misery modeled on Mexico!
Yep, let's blame all the problems on Mexicans. That'll work. And let's also blame the "black saint" because everything was just hunky-dory until he was elected. And let's not give much thought to all those rich agri-biz types who lure the illegals to this country. If only we could get rid of the black and brown folks, everything would be well. So, let's build that fence, and then we can all go to work for Wal-Mart, and we'll all live happily ever after.
If you're really from Oklahoma, "Black Saint," you ought to know a little history of how poor people get harassed, exploited, and abused by big banks and big growers, but instead you insist on the "divide and conquer" divisions that have always kept working people fighting over scraps while the fattest of fat cats steal more and more. The richest 1% of Americans now own just about everything, and you want to waste your energies blaming Mexicans. Brilliant.
Black Saint

Oklahoma City, OK

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Our Government, past & present, Republican & Democrat, have allowed the invasion of 20 to 30 million criminals and uneducated peons which is the largest invasion of any Nation, at any time, by any means & in direct violation of Article IV Section IV of our Constitution.
This refusal to abide by our Constitution, enforce our Immigration Laws and honor their Oath of Office should be classified as Treason of the most foul kind, & as grounds for impeachment & trials for Treason!
Not only have they allowed the invasion, they force American tax payers to pay Billions on Billions of dollars to provide Welfare, Prison cells, Educate the invaders numerous children, and free medical care, at the same time the invading horde break numerous laws and massive document fraud, & are destroying our schools, hospitals, communities, culture and standard of living while Robbing, Raping, Killing & Assaulting American Citizens at an rate the terrorist can only dream about.
Recent statements in Mexico from both President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary something needs to be done. "Our inability to prevent weapons from being illegally smuggled across the border to arm these criminals causes the deaths of police officers, soldiers, and civilians," Hillary whined.
But no mention, whines, concern or care that their refusal to stop the Massive Invasion of Illegal Aliens pouring across our borders or enforce our immigration laws that causes an estimated 25 Americans deaths per day and 10,s of thousands victims of Assault, Robberies, Rapes, Identify thief, and other assorted crimes committed by the invading horde of Illegal Aliens from Mexico on American citizens each year!
It is a telling indictment & shows their Empathy & Compassion of our Politicians & their priorities are not for the American citizens when they express more concern over Mexicans deaths mostly connected to the Drug trade, than the murders, havoc & crimes of Illegal Aliens against American Citizens!
The Democrats view the invading horde of Criminals and Uneducated third world rejects as Undocumented Welfare Democrats & the Republicans as Undocumented Slave labor for their Pay Masters in the Chamber of Commerce & Businesses!
Most of our Politicians in Wash. DC are wading knee deep in innocent American blood and suffering because they put Self Interest ahead of the interest of American Citizens & the future of this Nation!
The Citizens of this Nation have not sacrificed with blood, sweat & tears for over 200 years & obeyed the Laws of the land, paid the taxes, and fought the wars & built this Nation to see Corrupt politicians turn this Nation into the United States of Mexico without a shot being fired, to serve their demented, nefarious goals!
jaime

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Black Saint wrote:
Our Government, past & present, Republican & Democrat, have allowed the invasion of 20 to 30 million criminals and uneducated peons which is the largest invasion of any Nation, at any time, by any means & in direct violation of Article IV Section IV of our Constitution.
This refusal to abide by our Constitution, enforce our Immigration Laws and honor their Oath of Office should be classified as Treason of the most foul kind, & as grounds for impeachment & trials for Treason!
Not only have they allowed the invasion, they force American tax payers to pay Billions on Billions of dollars to provide Welfare, Prison cells, Educate the invaders numerous children, and free medical care, at the same time the invading horde break numerous laws and massive document fraud, & are destroying our schools, hospitals, communities, culture and standard of living while Robbing, Raping, Killing & Assaulting American Citizens at an rate the terrorist can only dream about.
Recent statements in Mexico from both President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary something needs to be done. "Our inability to prevent weapons from being illegally smuggled across the border to arm these criminals causes the deaths of police officers, soldiers, and civilians," Hillary whined.
But no mention, whines, concern or care that their refusal to stop the Massive Invasion of Illegal Aliens pouring across our borders or enforce our immigration laws that causes an estimated 25 Americans deaths per day and 10,s of thousands victims of Assault, Robberies, Rapes, Identify thief, and other assorted crimes committed by the invading horde of Illegal Aliens from Mexico on American citizens each year!
It is a telling indictment & shows their Empathy & Compassion of our Politicians & their priorities are not for the American citizens when they express more concern over Mexicans deaths mostly connected to the Drug trade, than the murders, havoc & crimes of Illegal Aliens against American Citizens!
The Democrats view the invading horde of Criminals and Uneducated third world rejects as Undocumented Welfare Democrats & the Republicans as Undocumented Slave labor for their Pay Masters in the Chamber of Commerce & Businesses!
Most of our Politicians in Wash. DC are wading knee deep in innocent American blood and suffering because they put Self Interest ahead of the interest of American Citizens & the future of this Nation!
The Citizens of this Nation have not sacrificed with blood, sweat & tears for over 200 years & obeyed the Laws of the land, paid the taxes, and fought the wars & built this Nation to see Corrupt politicians turn this Nation into the United States of Mexico without a shot being fired, to serve their demented, nefarious goals!
You've really drunk the Kool-Aid, ain't ya, boy? Amazing how you figured out the nefarious plans of Democrats who have no other objective than to turn the country over to Mexico. Oh Dem Dastardly Dems.
No Future

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If we could only trade the democrats to Mexico for those that are here illegal, this country would be great again.
Joshua Tree

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Nov 8, 2009
 
First of all, there should be no shame in Obama getting as many of our troops out of afghanistan (and Iraq for that matter) as quickly as possible. When the Taliban was fighting the Russians guess who gave them guns and training????? Well, WE DID! And guess who is now using that training and guns against our troops??? THE TALIBAN! Is our Military just stupid or do they have a death wish for our soldiers? As for DICK Cheney, well, this is the type of guy who shoots his friend in the face then has the audacity to make HIS VICTIM apologize to HIM on TV while Cheney is nowhere to be found (I am certain he was in some $million a night hotel suite wringing his twisted hands watching the apology he created with glee)
Buford

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Nov 9, 2009
 
Joshua Tree wrote:
First of all, there should be no shame in Obama getting as many of our troops out of afghanistan (and Iraq for that matter) as quickly as possible. When the Taliban was fighting the Russians guess who gave them guns and training????? Well, WE DID! And guess who is now using that training and guns against our troops??? THE TALIBAN! Is our Military just stupid or do they have a death wish for our soldiers? As for DICK Cheney, well, this is the type of guy who shoots his friend in the face then has the audacity to make HIS VICTIM apologize to HIM on TV while Cheney is nowhere to be found (I am certain he was in some $million a night hotel suite wringing his twisted hands watching the apology he created with glee)
Yah, I no wut ya meen thar Josh. Did ya see his tax retern fir 2005? The guys a reel work ah art if'n yah'all no wut i meen. Hear is a copie ah tha retern I'm ah tellan yah bout.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/ne...

Yah sea thar Josh da law sez thay gotta real lease tha innfirmateson sew thay ah due it. Anywoo yah'all can grab ontoo tha link an scroll on down to line on tha second page warein it say $6,857,849....that it be tha mount he'ah writ off...

Wut ah greddy gut, huh Josh?
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