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Monday Nov 9 | Posted by: womanistmusings

The Slut Shaming of Carrie Prejean

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After answering a question regarding same sex marriage posed by Perez Hilton, in a manner that clearly reflected her homophobia, Prejean quickly became a highly recognizable name. Hilton did so many tantrums (note: refers to language used and not the reason for his anger) in the mainstream media and his blog, he insured that more people knew the name Carrie Prejean, than knew the name of the actual winner of the pageant. Prejean is being shamed for being a sexual being in a world in which chastity in women is highly prized. We may claim to be a sexually liberated but the disciplining and slut shaming of women’s bodies proves quite the opposite. Those that are gloating about her downfall, do not realize that they are supporting an ism that enables homophobia. All isms are interconnected and therefore if we celebrate sexism we are promoting the idea that it is acceptable to marginalize or demean someone based a lack of conformity to hegemonic standards. Is it really a good idea for the GLBT community to chastise someone’s sexual behaviour when that is exactly what heterosexism does to create homosexuality as “other”?

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Yes, because in her case it is a prime example of plain stupidity and utter hypocrisy.... yet another lets-blow-everything-out-of-pr oportion rant from the hell-mouth of womanist musings. Thanks.
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I've always wondered about sexual labelling, as sexual activity tends to involve other people! How can a girl be chaste while a guy is experienced? Who is he "being experienced" with?
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I've always wondered about sexual labelling, as sexual activity tends to involve other people! How can a girl be chaste while a guy is experienced? Who is he "being experienced" with?
Allegedly, her sex tape was a one woman show.
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Pardon me but her own Xtian firends are slut shaming her, not Gay people. If she was OK with making those films, she should have told people about it beforehand and avoided all this controversy.

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FROM THE ARTICLE: Is it really a good idea for the GLBT community to chastise someone’s sexual behaviour when that is exactly what heterosexism does to create homosexuality as “other”?

It most certainly IS appropriate, whether gay or straight, to point out the hypocrisy when ones actions counter one's publicly- and publicity-stated (so-called) moral values.

This has nothing to do with her gender. This has everything to do with her screwed up belief system and the fact that she says one thing in public and has become a spokesmodel for the bigots of the country that just want to spread their particular brand of hatred.

That said, I wish her 15 minutes were up. I'm sick and tired of hearing about her. She has fallen from "grace." We have no need to see her in the news any longer.
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I truly believe that no one in the homosexual community is belittling Carrie Prejean for making a sex tape per se. The belittling is due to her views being so discriminating towards the homosexual community and with this revelation, her being exposed,(excuse the pun), for her babbling hypocrisy and all the negativism this hypocrisy represented to the gay community. Had she not been so “biblical” in her views, the sex tape revelation would have been met with a yawn. This is why she is being shamed.
Who should really be shamed is Womanist Musings for writing this dribble.
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Leave...Carrie....ALONE!
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Carrie Prejean is an example of the "do as I say, not as I do" mentality of so many people. It is wrong for others to be in love and have relationships, but it is alright for her to make a sex tape.

I do not condemn her for being a woman, having sexual needs, or for any of the actions she has partaken of except that they conflict with her decisions to push other people into a belief system that she, herself, will not abide by.
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Rick Ramos wrote:
Who should really be shamed is Womanist Musings for writing this dribble.
Sure makes perfect sense -- shoot the messenger, the author. Kinda like when the gay community shames one of their own for choosing to live a straight lifestyle. How dare they stray from the flock!
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Had she not been so “biblical” in her views, the sex tape revelation would have been met with a yawn. This is why she is being shamed.
It has been pointed out that David Letterman had no negative fall out from his affair because he has never pretended to be overly moral.

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Carrie is an awesome American and the attacks on her just prove that the GLBT community is full of hate and intolerance of others views. All she said was her opinion that marriage should be between a man and woman, and she was attacked by the gay Hilton.

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Sei wrote:
Carrie Prejean is an example of the "do as I say, not as I do" mentality of so many people. It is wrong for others to be in love and have relationships, but it is alright for her to make a sex tape.
I do not condemn her for being a woman, having sexual needs, or for any of the actions she has partaken of except that they conflict with her decisions to push other people into a belief system that she, herself, will not abide by.
A sex tape according to the far left media, I haven't seen this tape or even any pictures of stills from it. Does it even exist? And how does this make her a hypocrite? She is straight and unless she was with another girl I don't think it devalues her statement of marriage should be man/woman...

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Carrie is an awesome American and the attacks on her just prove that the GLBT community is full of hate and intolerance of others views. All she said was her opinion that marriage should be between a man and woman, and she was attacked by the gay Hilton.
And had the been the end of it, she probably would have come away relatively unscathed. Many gay sites and blogs condemned Perez. I personally condemned him.

BUT, she then decided to make herself the moral spokesperson. She went to rallies condemning gays. She joined forces with those who were trying to take away gay rights. That's when she really opened herself up. Oh, and she did all of this whil ignoring her legal obligations to the pageant committee. That's why she was sued, remember.

And that's why she's being condemned for this sex tape. You can't set yourself up as morally superior and not expect to be vilified if you fall from grace.

However, as is quite apparent from this - all one has to do is spout anti-gay views and they will be canonized by the religous right. It matters not what else they do. This is apparent with how the right has defended Larry Craig, Ted Haggard and many others. It doesn't matter what your personal activity it, as long as you continue to vilify the gays.

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Sei wrote:
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It has been pointed out that David Letterman had no negative fall out from his affair because he has never pretended to be overly moral.
Wasn't this the scummbag who was making fun of Palin's daughter and her sexual habits? I love how liberals get caught is sex scandals and it's O.K because they don't have values, but if a conservative person gets caught they are hypocrites because they do. Maybe we should all have no morals or values and then we can do whatever we want!

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Windy City Player wrote:
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A sex tape according to the far left media, I haven't seen this tape or even any pictures of stills from it. Does it even exist? And how does this make her a hypocrite? She is straight and unless she was with another girl I don't think it devalues her statement of marriage should be man/woman...
You've got to be kidding, right? If it even exists?
Give me one reason why she would settle the lawsuit, walking away with NOTHING, if if DIDN'T exist. Why wouldn't she continue her fight? Why wouldn't she battle the accusation of it existing in court?
It sounds to me like you're just wanting to defend a bigot to the end. Does she have to personally come and masturbate in front of your family for you to accept it?

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<quoted text> And had the been the end of it, she probably would have come away relatively unscathed. Many gay sites and blogs condemned Perez. I personally condemned him.
BUT, she then decided to make herself the moral spokesperson. She went to rallies condemning gays. She joined forces with those who were trying to take away gay rights. That's when she really opened herself up. Oh, and she did all of this whil ignoring her legal obligations to the pageant committee. That's why she was sued, remember.
And that's why she's being condemned for this sex tape. You can't set yourself up as morally superior and not expect to be vilified if you fall from grace.
However, as is quite apparent from this - all one has to do is spout anti-gay views and they will be canonized by the religous right. It matters not what else they do. This is apparent with how the right has defended Larry Craig, Ted Haggard and many others. It doesn't matter what your personal activity it, as long as you continue to vilify the gays.
I thought she was the spokesperson for marriage, not morals. You're right she attacked gays like she was attacked by a gay, but I didn't see her attacking all people who say.. had sex before marriage....That would be wrong. We all know she was a target because of her views, that's where it stated, and that's wrong. You have views on life I'm sure, would you like to be attacked and life ripped apart because a group doesn't agree with you? What's going on with this issue is plain wrong on both sides.
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I thought she was the spokesperson for marriage, not morals. You're right she attacked gays like she was attacked by a gay, but I didn't see her attacking all people who say.. had sex before marriage....That would be wrong. We all know she was a target because of her views, that's where it stated, and that's wrong. You have views on life I'm sure, would you like to be attacked and life ripped apart because a group doesn't agree with you? What's going on with this issue is plain wrong on both sides.
C/S, Player.
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A sex tape according to the far left media, I haven't seen this tape or even any pictures of stills from it. Does it even exist? And how does this make her a hypocrite? She is straight and unless she was with another girl I don't think it devalues her statement of marriage should be man/woman...
The court saw it. Ms Prejean then dropped her suit. And it is not just the "far left" media (talk about a tired old phrase) saying that it is a sex tape.

But then, again, we're talking about a guy who doesn't seem to believe that demanding others live by the Bible and not living by the Bible yourself is alright. After all, the actions that Ms Prejean were undertaking in the video (which TMZ confirms exists) is against Biblical code.
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Wasn't this the scummbag who was making fun of Palin's daughter and her sexual habits? I love how liberals get caught is sex scandals and it's O.K because they don't have values, but if a conservative person gets caught they are hypocrites because they do. Maybe we should all have no morals or values and then we can do whatever we want!
The joke that you are referring to was misconstrued by Ms Palin to be about the younger daughter. However, I should point out that having an unwed teenage daughter while campaigning for Christian morality is hypocritical.

As for Mr. Letterman, it is not shocking that he has no morals because he has never claimed to have them. However, Ms Prejean claims to have morals, and doesn't.

But then again, we're talking to someone who can't quite grasp that, now aren't we?

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Windy City Player wrote:
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I thought she was the spokesperson for marriage, not morals. You're right she attacked gays like she was attacked by a gay, but I didn't see her attacking all people who say.. had sex before marriage....That would be wrong. We all know she was a target because of her views, that's where it stated, and that's wrong. You have views on life I'm sure, would you like to be attacked and life ripped apart because a group doesn't agree with you? What's going on with this issue is plain wrong on both sides.
Oh, I'm attacked everyday because of my beliefs. Signs are held up saying I'm going to hell, I'm perverted, God hates me. Votes are taken in states to relegate my family to second-class status. People state objections to protecting me (both physically and constitutionally) every day.
Preachers in pulpits vilify me. Ads on TV lie about me. And people post of boards that they are disgusted by me.
And all of this is done without them even having heard my name or knowing one thing about me.
Carrie Prejean put herself in the public eye on her own. She made all of her comments on her own. She decided to pose topless and do an x-rated tape. And she freely joined all the groups above in saying things against me.
Yes, I'd say that gives me the right to speak out against her.
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