Dating European women over American women

In regards to the first posting on here. It's kinda dumb because i think alot of women feel the same about American men. There are alot of out of shape ones, financially irresponsible, don't know how to be a man-so confused about their genetics, proud to be a beer drinker, etc. There are alot of good American men out there too. It's just dumb or ignorant to generalize about a whole group of people. I think you are angry about something and are trying to blame or ignorant or maybe even naive. Your world could change so quickly. I'm a hospice nurse. I encourage you to try and figure out what's really missing in your life.

I think that culture forms us, and I know men from several countries in Europe who have dated American women - and you know, they all said, on the first date, the woman was asking about their job, how much money they make, wanting them to pay for everything, but also wanting to take control of everything. They say it was like a job interview, not to get to know the person, and this is very unattractive. this is not a matter of what is wrong in a woman, it would be wrong in anyone. Nobody should be valued for their income, or to be interrogated. The idea is to be nice to each other, to enjoy the world together, fall in love, and be friends and confidants. A man in not the enemy, he brings special gifts of himself, and each deserve to be cherished and being treated tenderly.

I am a British women living in the US and I have found consistently that the views of mine versus American women are very different. I have been on my own for a few years now. The half dozen dates I have been on dont work. I still am optimistic that a man will come along who actually ENJOYS the fact that I am different and appreciates my gentle charm. Yes, I am considered attractive, great figure and well groomed with hair and eyes to die for. I AM smart, educated, amusing and out going so what could be wrong? A close American woman friend offered this:- My dear, American men like controlling loud obnoxious American women. The American male wants to be asked his income and spend every last dime on his woman. They just dont know what to make of you.....

Maybe when American women stop acting like girls and learn how to be women, men will stop acting like boys. American women expect men to conform to their standards but want you to appreciate them for who they are, even if they're not much.

lived in both US and EU wrote:

The problem that males have with American women is that American women expect you to be men and women in many other cultures allow you to remain boys.

There is waaaay too much generalizing going on. Some of you need to realize that the US is extremely vast; regional/educational/economica l and cultural(yes we have MANY subcultures) differences play a HUGE role in who we, as "Americans", are. The same way region throughout Europe shapes culture, so does our state/town/
city/village.

Not every single person in every single state is alike. Enlighten yourself people and stop making ignorant generalizations. Life is so much nicer once you can cross that barrier.

Everyone is different and clearly we all see what we want to see. Stop highlighting the negatives and maybe you will be less bitter in your perspectives of the world.

Jpl wrote:

I am a British women living in the US and I have found consistently that the views of mine versus American women are very different. I have been on my own for a few years now. The half dozen dates I have been on dont work. I still am optimistic that a man will come along who actually ENJOYS the fact that I am different and appreciates my gentle charm. Yes, I am considered attractive, great figure and well groomed with hair and eyes to die for. I AM smart, educated, amusing and out going so what could be wrong? A close American woman friend offered this:- My dear, American men like controlling loud obnoxious American women. The American male wants to be asked his income and spend every last dime on his woman. They just dont know what to make of you.....

I think that perhaps your friend is right. It is a pity, because so many American men are very nice, but may feel safer with a more bullying, controlling woman. When someone is accustomed to being treated badly, they can despise someone who is gentle, feminine, undemanding and caring, because they do not understand, they are like men who have been in the army, accustomed to taking orders and uncertain of how to be independent. And Americans are more materialistic, therefore perhaps if you do not demand money, to a man who normally values the expensive, he thinks you are not worth very much. Unfortunately, you perhaps will find that you are most popular with those who have been damaged by the normal American woman and therefore appreciate a woman who does not behave like a loud boy. Good luck English Rose!

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from what i see the ladies in places like Ukraine aren't any different from the women in America, they also love nice stuff, they like to have jobs and study, what really differs is the approach to the family, they DO care about their families, unlike most of the men there! A friend of mine met a lady through one of the matchmakers in Kharkov (Mordinson family) and they've had their ups and downs but no matter what, sheis devoted to the relationship and wants to work to make it good! this is believe is lovely! Remember this old story about the difference between hell and paradise?

I am a European woman, who just moved to the US, and all of the things that you posted are absolutely true.
However, I wanted to add another difference. In Europe, we pay attention to nightlife, clubbing and drinking, while here in the US, almost nobody regards this as normal. In addition, nobody can drink, almost every American gets drunk from two watery beers... I apologize for the language but WTF?!? When I start talking about whiskey, rum, or something else, I'm looked upon as an alcoholic...

Hey! I dont like that you kind of say that European women are better than American women. Maybe they are different, but there´s no better! It´s not about a person being perfect anyway. It´s about 2 persons being perfect for each other. Like 2 years ago I had a really lovely roommate from Chicago and she had a lot of traits that were mentioned here, but still, she found her perfect match and if i was a guy, i would have been into her too...probably ;)

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I live in Los Angeles and work in a very multicultural professional environment (university setting)
I've got to say hands down that European women (25+) take way better care of themselves, dress better and are more enjoyable to be around than their American counterparts. American women (esp after marriage) typically let themselves get fat and stop caring what they look like. You can almost instantly recognize a European woman in my office even before they say anything, just by the way they carry themselves and dress. Maybe I'm shallow but I appreciate the effort that European women put into their appearance.

Italian Man, I guess u must be sick and don't even know what to do wen a black man gets your woman. Don't sound racist here coz people know that italians don't like blacks. Don't get me wrong. It's not a matter of being second after a black man. It's a matter of bing 'THE MAN' that u weren't. Y don't u think that that particular black man could be a nice person, maybe better than the italian who dated the woman before. Mind your diction dude.

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I have an American friend who lives in the Netherlands and is married to a Dutch woman. Every time he comes back home he cheats on his dutch wife becasue he claims that once they had children she became a bore, that she doesn't take care of herself, is always bossy, demanding, doesn't bother with being feminine anymore etc, but, this same man complains that american women are to uptight, think of sex as love, aren't independent etc. I think if men could they'd always want something more or less from any woman. I know plenty of American women that fall under these same type discriptions once they marry. So I think the good and bad are in all of of us, not just american not just european. Individualism is something we each have and while it may be determined somewhat by our cultures it is is still individualism that attracts us or not to differnt people. Hell, it would be a sad and boring world if we were all the same. But, to say one nationality is better over another is ridiculous and shows how small minded we all as humans can really be.

I read every single post before writing this response. I feel the Generalizations in this thread are quite acceptable and here is a truthful analogy to explain why I feel this way. I am from San Antonio, Tx (the highest rate of teen pregnancy in the US) would it be so wrong of me to generalize that most women in San Antonio are immature and irresponsible and also that they are extremely uneducated especially in matters of sex and birth control?(keep in mind I do live here) My point is that there is an element of truth to every stereotype. People in New York are rude (spend a day in the streets of New York and tell me otherwise) so are French people (again, try making friends in France). Are all New Yorkers and French rude? Are all teenagers in San Antonio pregnant? No, but many are, there are some that stand outside the norm but they are much harder to find. I can understand men going to Europe or another country to find women who treat them better, they are simply widening their pool of applicants. If culturally women treat men better in that country, then it is much easier to find one they can click with and there is nothing wrong with that. For the most part stereotypes are true, they just dont apply to everyone and as time goes by those cultures/ways of thinking may change and as a result the stereotypes will change as well.

oh my goodness, the ethnic and cultural beliefs I am seeing people believe and purport here.

Don't you want to keep an open mind and see if the love relationship could click first?

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