Do you think Scott Peterson got a fair trial?

Jul 7, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: NewsTalk 1530 KFBK

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Noob

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#62
Jul 15, 2012
 
RiccardoFire wrote:
Peterson claims he was framed. Laci was abducted and held for a period of time. The kidnappers killed her and dumped her body into the Bay from another point, like the San Rafael Bridge, after they heard where Peterson had been fishing.
see comments above; furthermore:
Appeal Brief wrote:
b. Fetal development evidence
In an effort to support its theory that Laci was killed on December 23 -- and thus Scott was the only possible killer -- the state presented testimony from Greggory Devore a doctor who specialized in high risk obstetrics and maternal-fetal medicine. Dr. Devore was contacted by the Modesto Police and asked to review the Conner’s fetal records to determine his age at death. Dr. Devore
reviewed two ultrasound examinations and Conner’s femur bone. Using “an equation by [Phillipe] Jeanty.” an expert in fetal biometry, Dr. Devore estimated that Conner died on December 23, 2002.
Dr. Devore admitted that this was an ESTIMATION and Conner may have died a day or two before or after this date.
Of course, a day or two before the 23rd was impossible (since Laci had been seen by her sister on December 23) and a day or two after meant that Scott was not the killer.

c. The movement of bodies in water
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Apart from the general proximity of Brooks Island and the points where the bodies washed ashore, there was no evidence connecting the bodies to the place where Mr. Peterson was fishing.
To connect these two points, the prosecution relied on the testimony of hydrologist, Dr. Ralph Cheng. Dr. Cheng was a senior research hydrologist with the United States Geological Survey.
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Dr. Cheng provided the police with a map which contained a “projected path” that the bodies might have taken to the shore, and he pinpointed an area in the bay for the officers to search [for evidence such as the anchors].
Beginning May 16, 2003, the police,... searched this “high probability area,”... nothing of relevance was found to Scott’s case....
The state called Dr. Cheng as an expert witness at trial to give his expert opinion that the bodies had been placed on the bay bottom near where Mr. Peterson said he was fishing. In establishing his expertise, Dr. Cheng explained that as a Senior Research Hydrologist with the United States Geological Survey, his “particular assignment is [to] study of the movement of WATER in San Francisco Bay” as affected by currents and tides.
On voir dire of his expertise by defense counsel, Dr. Cheng
acknowledged that his work had never explored the movement of BODIES in water or the bay.
Dr. Cheng was then asked detailed questions about the movements of bodies in water, the precise subject he had admitted his studies did NOT involve.
Dr. Cheng produced a “vector map,” which charted the movement of Conner’s body, hour by hour, in the days prior to April 13. Dr. Cheng’s map, People’s Exhibit 284, shows the vector diagram and concludes that Conner’s body migrated to Richmond (where it was found) from the high probability area near Brooks Island where
Scott said he was fishing on December 24.
Of course, this was the same “high probability” area that police had searched for more than two weeks with dive teams, sonar equipment and the sophisticated REMUS machine without finding anything at all to connect Scott with the crime.
Interestingly, however, Dr. Cheng could NOT reproduce the same trajectory for Laci’s body. When asked for an explanation why he could not provide a vector diagram that showed how Laci’s body ended up in Point Isabel, Dr. Cheng confessed that “Well, I’m not – I’m not the expert in that area here. I don’t know how the
body is behaving in water.”(Id.) Dr. Cheng admitted he had no experience at all with how bodies move in water:...
http://scottpetersonappeal.org/SPA1/ScottPete...
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Jul 15, 2012
 
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pwc-sii wrote:
Laci was known to be alive at 8:30 p.m. on the night of December 23, and Scott is known to have left home for the Warehouse at no later than 10:08 a.m. on the 24th. Therefore, the State had to prove that the murder happened in that time frame: 8:30 p.m.--> 10:08 a.m. In his Closing Argument, Rick Distaso identified the time of death on which the State rested its case:
It's very simple. The defendant strangled or smothered Laci Peterson the night of February, January, December 23rd, or in the morning while she was getting dressed on the 24th. I can't tell you when he did it. I can't tell you if he did it at night. I can't tell you if he did it in the morning. I'm not going to try to convince you of something that I can't prove. I don't have to prove that to you. I only have to prove that he did it.

Laci's body yielded only a generalized 3-6 months estimate for time of death, insufficient to establish beyond reasonable doubt that Scott murdered her within the right time frame. The burden of proving time of death thus fell on baby Conner's shoulders.

Establishing time of death for Conner relied on two critical pieces of information:
his gestational age on December 23, the date of Laci's last pre-natal examination
his gestational age derived from various measurements of his remains
The State argued that the facts prove Conner died between the required time span: 8:30 p.m. December 23 --> 10:08 a.m. December 24. Dr. Greggory Devore was called as an expert witness to present this to the Jury.
Devore's credentials are outstanding, and he is well-recognized in his field. His expertise is in maternal-fetal medicine, which is caring for the mother or the fetus that may to be at high risk. This involves using ultrasound as one of the primary tools for evaluating the fetus. During the course of his career, he has performed over 75,000 ultrasounds.
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Jul 15, 2012
 
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pwc-sii wrote:
Devore's first task was to determine Conner's gestational age on December 23, 2002.
He reviewed Laci's medical records and noted that the gestational age from the 1st ultrasound, the gold standard, deviated only one day from the gestational age from Laci's last menstrual period (LMP). He assumed that the gestational age from the LMP was absolutely accurate. The LMP yielded a gestational age of 33w1d on December 23.
He consulted Laci's medical records and noted the femur bone measurement of 32mm taken on September 24, 2002, as part of the 2nd ultrasound. He consulted Philippe Jeanty's studies on fetal biometry and noted that Jeanty places this measurement right at the 50th percentile. Devore noted the absence on Laci's medical records of any pathological factor that would keep Conner from developing at the 50th percentile. He assumed Conner continued to develop at the 50th percentile and was at the 50th percentile when he died.
With Conner's December 23 gestational age established as 33w1d, he proceeded to determine Conner's gestational age at the time of his death, and, in the process, determine the date of death.
He obtained the femur bone that was removed from Conner's body, placed it in a water bath, and used his portable ultrasound machine to take three measurements, which were: 64mm, 64.7mm, and 65mm.
He consulted various fetal biometry studies to determine gestational age for these measurements, based on 50th percentile.
He calculated dates of death by comparing these gestational ages to the 33w1d gestational age from the LMP.
He relied most heavily on Philippe Jeanty's studies, which produced the following gestational ages and corresponding death dates:

64mm = 32w6d = December 21
64.7mm = 33w1d = December 23
65mm = 33w2d = December 24
Devore thus proved that Conner died between the critical time period: 8:30 p.m. December 23 --> 10:08 a.m. December 24.

It all sounds so logical, so compelling. That's the problem. His credentials give him the appearance of knowing what he is talking about. The fact of the matter is, Devore employed junk science to give the State the results it wanted. His methodology is brand new and has never undergone peer review. His conclusions are contradicted by all the other experts that testified -- Laci's doctors, the forensic pathologist, the forensic anthropologist -- and he is contradicted by several fetal biometry studies. Even Jeanty contradicts Devore's conclusions.

Two facts he did get right -- the December 23 gestational age derived from Laci's LMP is indeed 33w1d. And Jeanty does put the 32mm femur bone measurement at the 50th percentile. Everything else, however, is simply data manipulated to yield the necessary results.
An examination of Laci's medical record and consultation with fetal biometry studies establishes well beyond reasonable doubt that Conner lived at least a week beyond December 23, and that fact fully exonerates Scott Peterson.
Read more at: http://www.pwc-sii.com/Research/death/death.h...
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Jul 15, 2012
 
RiccardoFire wrote:
His house apparently reeked of bleach when the police did their first inspection of his house. He purchased ankle weights with a credit card that are still unaccounted for.
He claimed his hair color changed due to chlorine from a swimming pool when in fact the police have located the hair dresser that did the dye job. Not only did he have his brother's ID, he also had an application for a U.S. Passport on his person when he was arrested.
Great example how the media brainwashed the people into believe their lies. None of the things above it is true but the bit about carrying his brother's ID (see above):
Appeal Brief wrote:
Police officer Jon Evers contacted Scott as he was searching in the park for Laci that evening. Evers asked Scott for permission to search the Peterson home. Scott told Evers it was fine to enter the home and search it.
Officers later described Scott as “very cooperative” and noted that he did not “hesitate” when asked whether they could search his home.
Police took control of Laci and Scott’s home. Scott was not permitted back in the house that night unless he was accompanied by a police officer.
Over the course of the next few days, detectives Al Brocchini and Craig Grogan -- with the help of numerous other police officers -- searched Laci and Scott’s home. As detective Brocchini himself later admitted on cross-examination, because the detectives had already singled Scott out as the prime suspect in the case, they were
specifically searching for any evidence that would link him to Laci’s disappearance and possible murder.
There was not much to find. Just outside the Peterson home, officers found a bucket with two mops inside. The mops and bucket did NOT smell of disinfectant or bleach. Both were taken into evidence....
http://scottpetersonappeal.org/SPA1/ScottPete...
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Jul 15, 2012
 
Noob wrote:
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Great example how the media brainwashed the people into believe their lies. None of the things above it is true but the bit about carrying his brother's ID (see above):
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How do you know it's not true..were you there? or should we believe a dirty Lawyer hired to cause doubt? YOu are being brainwashed by a dirty Lawyer, how does that make u feel?
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Jul 15, 2012
 
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know it's not true..were you there? or should we believe a dirty Lawyer hired to cause doubt? YOu are being brainwashed by a dirty Lawyer, how does that make u feel?
In contrast to you, I'm not brainwashed.
I listened to both sides (that is what the jurors were supposed to do) and did not find enough CONVINCING evidence that Scott murdered Laci.
If one were supposed only to listen to media/prosecution society wouldn't need trials.
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Jul 15, 2012
 
Noob wrote:
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In contrast to you, I'm not brainwashed.
I listened to both sides (that is what the jurors were supposed to do) and did not find enough CONVINCING evidence that Scott murdered Laci.
If one were supposed only to listen to media/prosecution society wouldn't need trials.
Enjoying your posts...

Love the web. Are you really out of country?

I do think he is guilty. Like most on death row, he will die of old age before they get to him. I think we have a ballot measure coming in November to stop the death penalty; this time the focus is cost as opposed to right or wrong. I do support the penalty, but this state is so messed up we just can't afford it.
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Jul 15, 2012
 
A Thought wrote:
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Enjoying your posts...
Love the web. Are you really out of country?
I do think he is guilty. Like most on death row, he will die of old age before they get to him. I think we have a ballot measure coming in November to stop the death penalty; this time the focus is cost as opposed to right or wrong. I do support the penalty, but this state is so messed up we just can't afford it.
I live in Munich - however, I lived in FL when Laci disappeared and Scott was tried in court.

I enjoy posts without brainless rants ;-) I like a good discussion about the facts and I respect when people admit that their "gut feeling" tells them Scott is guilty - but feelings are no evidence. A death sentence should be supported by hard facts and not a media hype.

Death penalty - well, I'm opposed to it for several reasons - last but not least the costs. It's no point in spending all that money if most of the inmate die of old age instead of being executed. Life w/o parole is IMO sufficient enough - and it does not force the state to turn it's own law abiding citizens into killers. Not to mention that humans can err - and such a mistake can not be reversed.
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Jul 16, 2012
 
A Thought wrote:
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Enjoying your posts...
Love the web. Are you really out of country?
I do think he is guilty. Like most on death row, he will die of old age before they get to him. I think we have a ballot measure coming in November to stop the death penalty; this time the focus is cost as opposed to right or wrong. I do support the penalty, but this state is so messed up we just can't afford it.
well said.
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Jul 18, 2012
 
Noob wrote:
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In contrast to you, I'm not brainwashed.
I listened to both sides (that is what the jurors were supposed to do) and did not find enough CONVINCING evidence that Scott murdered Laci.
If one were supposed only to listen to media/prosecution society wouldn't need trials.
Were you there? yes or no
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#73
Jul 19, 2012
 
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Were you there? yes or no
In the US? Yes.
At the trial? No. Nobody got tickets for every single day. It was a media frenzy.

But I remember the media mayhem very well and read more than just the tabloids.
Did you read the case files?
http://www.pwc-sii.com/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Scott-Peterson-...
Scott's Appelate Brief?
http://www.scottpetersonappeal.org/SPA1/index...
Ready to discuss these instead of insults?
Yes or no?
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#80
Jul 19, 2012
 
if it was a truly fair trial, he would have been shot in the head right after they announced the guilty verdict
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Jul 19, 2012
 
marlenehasnocred wrote:
As usual fake German citizen, you can and are always proven wrong every day of your ignorant life....
I'm not using an IP blocker and I am posting from Munich.
If you never picked up on it (grammar, spelling): on top of everything: I'm German.

All you show w/ your hilarious brainless posts is your ignorance and mean character. You have no clue about the legal system and no clue about the case. You're just a bored, mean troll. People like you help Scott tremendously: they show people who are interested what a media mob can do.
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#82
Jul 20, 2012
 
Sure, sure IP blocking dingbat. Of course you don't use different nics and IP location to cheer your idiotic self on either..LOL Who you foo'n fool? NOT I, oh not so smart American. No matter, everything you post is bullshit and yet again you are proven wrong. Tell us more details about the case you have yet again overlooked and blame it on the media..you've repeated your delusional tripe for soo long do you really think an IP blocker is going to hide you troll4life?
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Jul 20, 2012
 
Noob wrote:
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I'm not using an IP blocker and I am posting from Munich.
If you never picked up on it (grammar, spelling): on top of everything: I'm German.
All you show w/ your hilarious brainless posts is your ignorance and mean character. You have no clue about the legal system and no clue about the case. You're just a bored, mean troll. People like you help Scott tremendously: they show people who are interested what a media mob can do.
From the troll who doesn't know about this case after all these yrs. Being stuck on stupid as you have been gives you away IP blocking troll. Proud member of kill Scott Peterson now club. Yup, I help keep his damn butt in jail till he's excuted. Will you be there? I know I will. LOL@oh the media..blah, blah, blah! Holds no weight dingbat! Never has and never will. Oh by the way Voice of Insanity...Germany didn't televise the case...doh!
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#86
Jul 23, 2012
 
Adolphus wrote:
Ve hev vays of mekin you talk, poob.
LMAO

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