Controversial power meters coming to county; county leaders want mo...

Full story: Santa Cruz Sentinel

Wellington Energy employee Shane Sullivan installs SmartMeters for PGE. PGE hopes to start installing the controversial SmartMeters around Santa Cruz County beginning next month Utility giant PGE should begin installing its controversial SmartMeters around Santa Cruz County next month, but elected leaders and residents are asking for a moratorium ...
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Gulliver

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technology kills yet another job.
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sounds kind of sketchy, but if the wifi goes down does that mean we get free power while it's down? seems like signals will get crossed. not sure if it's worth the $$ spent. I guess it will be nice to not have people walking thru your yard every month.-back to mowing the lawn naked!!!!-just kidding
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Greetings from a former "local" now residing in Bakersfield where the "smart meters" were first rolled out, resulting in outrageous bills, sometimes 4 times higher than normal. Be vary wary of PG&E...
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They aren't "smart" if they don't work. All this dependence on wireless seems foolhardy, and while the idea of hourly tracking sounds good, this sounds like a bunch of PR nonsense. Appliances are sold with energy usage information on them. PG & E is after money, period.
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Some how I don't think it can be a good thing for PG&E to know what appliances I have in my home and when I use them. This is more Big Brother. As long as I pay for what I use, it is no one's business to monitor what I do in my own home.

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It seems to me that PG&E should be taking steps to ensure that these meters actually do work and actually are not buggy before they are installed.

Monopolies sure are great, aren't they?
Mr Ed

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Ms bazzano can contact my website www.looniesareus.com for my low priced collection of designer tin foil hats which are 100% guaranteed to block all emanations.
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Para Noid wrote:
Some how I don't think it can be a good thing for PG&E to know what appliances I have in my home and when I use them. This is more Big Brother. As long as I pay for what I use, it is no one's business to monitor what I do in my own home.
I'm sure indoor growers are the ones shaking in their boots right now!
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I'm building a RF scrambler for 17$ in parts. They will have to read my meter!
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Spanky wrote:
I'm building a RF scrambler for 17$ in parts. They will have to read my meter!
Those days are over (meter readers)..they estimate your usage if the "smart" meter doesn't transmit..folks here were getting $800 bills, despite being away from home and power off for vacations...it's a mess...last summer I bought an energy efficient system to replace my 20 year old dino, bill stayed the same...called PG&E on it and they just shrugged and said they didn't get a reading from the meter, and billed me for my average usage...
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I read that PG&E can turn your power on and off from their office with the smart meters. I agree with Para Noid. Well said.
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When will the Sentinel learn how to do an ampersand in online text?
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It's amazing how many voted yes to increase PG&E's monopoly.

So 60% of customers have the new "dumb" meters? I guess I'm lucky not to have it yet. I didn't know they'll emit radiation, great. And the big brother aspect, this is really bad. Where's the consumer protection efforts?
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careful.. I read the meters overcharge and don't work as expected. If this is the case, WHY are they being installed anyway? To make PG&E more $$ before they are deemed illegal?? Now that makes sense.....NOT.
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It would be nice if they provided different rates for different times - i.e. electricity should be cheaper during low usage periods - it would seem the smart-meter has all the info to do that. Years ago PGE used to have digital meters in SC county that allowed this.
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In the article it says they have reports of something like 23,000 faulty units out of the 6 million installed units. Thats a failure rate of less than 0.004%.

Most electronics manufacturers bank on a much larger failure rate due to the expense of quality control. They just replace the defective units under warranty and call it cost of doing business....

In PG&E's case they really should be owning up to the billing errors, but the devices themselves aren't to blame.
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hoss cartwright wrote:
It would be nice if they provided different rates for different times - i.e. electricity should be cheaper during low usage periods - it would seem the smart-meter has all the info to do that. Years ago PGE used to have digital meters in SC county that allowed this.
we had that back home in san diego for years. i think SDG&E even had an analog meter that did that. The thing though was it was for fixed time periods. Like they charged a peak rate from 10am - 6 pm weekdays and the off peak rate the rest of the time. With the new smart meters they will be able to vary the pricing dynamically. Remember those "Flex your power now" announcements when the power grid is getting close to being unable to meet demand. Now residential customers will have an economic motive to listen to those messages and reduce consumption. Hopefully we will never see a brownout ever again.
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Is there any reason why they can't install both a smart meter and keep the other one to verify accuracy for a year? Technology does exist to do this.

As for Scotts Valley resident Heidi Bazzano, and wifi fears, all I can say is that she's one clueless lady if she thinks she's not being exposed to wifi just because she doesn't have a cell phone.
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More greed and corporate control defining humanity, the singularity is coming and if you want to become a machine and loose your humanity in the process it is your free will choice. I for one will choose to fight this corporate take over, f******ck P G and E.
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"PG&E spokesman Paul Moreno said the goal is for customers to shift their consumption away from peak usage times, like late afternoon, therefore saving energy and fossil fuels, Moreno said. Power prices could be charged by the hour, changing with the time of day."

Does this mean that PG&E will be negotiating with employers to give us flexible work hours so we can use electricity at non-peak times?

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