UAW faces painful transformation

there is one thing about from looking at the way the post have been judged lately you can tell the truth hurts and some cant take the truth when confronted with the facts.

The problem with that is:
That socialist party uaw has never been brought to justice as yet or brought to bankruptcy like the rest had to do to survive. It may be because of it's frailty that it would never last if it tried.

The point is this, In the mean time, their coffers have been filled up with the TARP money that was meant for the company to create new jobs with but the socialist party uaw claims as their own, point #2, it's the socialist party uaw who continues to gloat about having those jobs when many others don't, even after they should have been brought to bankruptcy like the others, and point #3, it's that socialist party uaw who has the audacity to talk about throwing that very same money into the political arena with the intention to kill any new jobs that were supposed to be created with it to start with, and point #4, it's the social-dems who are providing them to do all of this and with Tax Payer money.

Yes it's true that money doesn't belong to the members and it's also true that Business and Industry was killed off by the unions and they moved overseas. At the same time it's also true that it's the president who claims the credit for all the new job growth that he says he has created and it's in an election year. Where are those jobs outside of unions?

It's besides the point that it's the very same money that the socialist party uaw has filled it's coffers up with this whole time long in the past few years and it seems to have gotten away with it. It's also very true that it's the president whon has been claiming all this new job growth but it appears that in fact it has simply been paying off the unions for it's votes this coming election.

Maybe that's his transparency he talks about. It seems nothing more than what's been very obvious all along.

It's spelled- D U P E D as in sucker.

So much for those social-dems or lefty's.

Pete wrote:

The problem with that is:
That socialist party uaw has never been brought to justice as yet or brought to bankruptcy like the rest had to do to survive. It may be because of it's frailty that it would never last if it tried.
The point is this, In the mean time, their coffers have been filled up with the TARP money that was meant for the company to create new jobs with but the socialist party uaw claims as their own, point #2, it's the socialist party uaw who continues to gloat about having those jobs when many others don't, even after they should have been brought to bankruptcy like the others, and point #3, it's that socialist party uaw who has the audacity to talk about throwing that very same money into the political arena with the intention to kill any new jobs that were supposed to be created with it to start with, and point #4, it's the social-dems who are providing them to do all of this and with Tax Payer money.
Yes it's true that money doesn't belong to the members and it's also true that Business and Industry was killed off by the unions and they moved overseas. At the same time it's also true that it's the president who claims the credit for all the new job growth that he says he has created and it's in an election year. Where are those jobs outside of unions?
It's besides the point that it's the very same money that the socialist party uaw has filled it's coffers up with this whole time long in the past few years and it seems to have gotten away with it. It's also very true that it's the president whon has been claiming all this new job growth but it appears that in fact it has simply been paying off the unions for it's votes this coming election.
Maybe that's his transparency he talks about. It seems nothing more than what's been very obvious all along.
It's spelled- D U P E D as in sucker.
So much for those social-dems or lefty's.

well if you read Steve Rattner's Book Overhaul the UAW is not favorable in the Obama Adminstartion, especially Rahm Emanuel which had no use for the UAW but thats why the UAW got Chryler and none of GM. The Reason UAW was given part of Chrysler in VEBA was to guarantee that Chrysler would survive against the UAW and if it didnt the UAW would be out.

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>UAW leans toward Communism, especially when you have 3 workers standing doing nothing, and 1 working and they are all getting the same pay. no where in the world has Communism has been implemented, China actually is more toward Socialism.
In the entire history of mankind, a communist state has never existed and none do right now. The USSR wasn’t communist, China isn’t, North Korea isn’t. For most people this will be a shock – but it is entirely true. In reality, what most people think of as communism is actually socialism. There are three stages to implementing a communist state and no one has ever managed to go past the first (for reasons that may be clear in a moment). Here are the stages of pure communism as envisaged by Marx – the father of communism.
In the entire history of mankind, a communist state has never existed and none do right now.
http://mythverse.com/2011/07/21/communism-a-u...

Really, 3 workers standing around watching 1 worker work? really, what plant do you work at? i'd love to transfer there lol

Pete wrote:

The problem with that is:
That socialist party uaw has never been brought to justice as yet or brought to bankruptcy like the rest had to do to survive. It may be because of it's frailty that it would never last if it tried.
The point is this, In the mean time, their coffers have been filled up with the TARP money that was meant for the company to create new jobs with but the socialist party uaw claims as their own, point #2, it's the socialist party uaw who continues to gloat about having those jobs when many others don't, even after they should have been brought to bankruptcy like the others, and point #3, it's that socialist party uaw who has the audacity to talk about throwing that very same money into the political arena with the intention to kill any new jobs that were supposed to be created with it to start with, and point #4, it's the social-dems who are providing them to do all of this and with Tax Payer money.
Yes it's true that money doesn't belong to the members and it's also true that Business and Industry was killed off by the unions and they moved overseas. At the same time it's also true that it's the president who claims the credit for all the new job growth that he says he has created and it's in an election year. Where are those jobs outside of unions?
It's besides the point that it's the very same money that the socialist party uaw has filled it's coffers up with this whole time long in the past few years and it seems to have gotten away with it. It's also very true that it's the president whon has been claiming all this new job growth but it appears that in fact it has simply been paying off the unions for it's votes this coming election.
Maybe that's his transparency he talks about. It seems nothing more than what's been very obvious all along.
It's spelled- D U P E D as in sucker.
So much for those social-dems or lefty's.

You will never hurt the UAW, maybe the workers that joined the UAW but not the UAW International, just won't happen, lol, get over it

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>Bill Ayers was associated SDS, UAW, & Weathermen
In 1968, Ayers became leader of the Students for a Democratic Society, and then a prominent leader of the violent "Weatherman group." The group was associated with other international communist guerrilla and terrorist groups, including the Vietcong. Its objective was the furtherance of Soviet foreign policy
http://conservapedia.com/William_Ayers

Stop quoting Ayers, deranged and ignorant, it's like quoting Hitler

The Truth wrote:

<quoted text> Stop quoting Ayers, deranged and ignorant, it's like quoting Hitler

no I not quoting Ayers study the history of the UAW and how deranged & ignorant the UAW was and how the SDS with the help of UAW & Ruethers went to the Univeristy of Michigan to recruit students and how were indoctrined at a UAW camp in Port Huron, MI where the Manifesto of the SDS was drafted. Why do you think Both the CIA and the FBI monitored Walter Ruethers.

A Theater for the Poor

http://www.solidarity-us.org/node/3432

The Truth wrote:

<quoted text> You will never hurt the UAW, maybe the workers that joined the UAW but not the UAW International, just won't happen, lol, get over it

UAW is in trouble or their educational center would not be up for sale, but I agree the workers that joined UAW got hurt, I seen more than one replace that was represented by the UAW. Most of the UAW’s wealth sits in its strike fund, which stood at $763 million at end 2010. That money can only be used to fund strikes unless UAW representatives approve a change to the constitution, a step possible every four years.

Black Lake Retreat Up For Sale

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/22/us-...

Stress testing the UAW

http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-investigates...

The Truth wrote:

<quoted text> Really, 3 workers standing around watching 1 worker work? really, what plant do you work at? i'd love to transfer there lol

you cant the facility is closed, it seen the wrecking ball it was in flint.

THE PORT HURON STATEMENT:“AN AGENDA FOR A GENERATION”
James Miller pronounced The Port Huron Statement “one of the most pivotal
documents in post-war American history.”13 The manuscript earned its title from the
discussion held at the UAW camp in Port Huron, Michigan, in the summer of 1962. Tom
Hayden wrote the draft, it was distributed amongst the SDS leadership, and sixty people from
SDS and select interested parties met in Port Huron to debate the document. From the time
of its writing in 1962 through the subsequent five years, SDS distributed over 100,000 copies
of The Port Huron Statement, which stands as the first manifesto of the movement which
would come to be called the New Left or Democratic Party.

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

THE PORT HURON STATEMENT:“AN AGENDA FOR A GENERATION”
James Miller pronounced The Port Huron Statement “one of the most pivotal
documents in post-war American history.”13 The manuscript earned its title from the
discussion held at the UAW camp in Port Huron, Michigan, in the summer of 1962. Tom
Hayden wrote the draft, it was distributed amongst the SDS leadership, and sixty people from
SDS and select interested parties met in Port Huron to debate the document. From the time
of its writing in 1962 through the subsequent five years, SDS distributed over 100,000 copies
of The Port Huron Statement, which stands as the first manifesto of the movement which
would come to be called the New Left or Democratic Party.

blah blah blah, if u don't like unions, breaking news, don't join one

the truth wrote:

<quoted text>
blah blah blah, if u don't like unions, breaking news, don't join one

that isnt the problem it how the I have seen and heard people say how the international UAW is not supportive of their Local UAW's. All International UAW was interested in was collecting dues and keeping good relationship with the companies where they were organized at the cost of the workers.

Wifey says:
It's already been established in here and many times over, what hurts is the truth and not the words...

The point of this whole discussion is not about words, it's about that socialist party uaw whose very existence is because of the TARP as that they continue soaking off the Tax Payers.

It's by those very same people who they have elected into office and who they continue spending their money on with hopes that everything stays the same...

The fallacy of that kind of thinking is the reality that has its way sooner or later...

and it's very existence today is only because of those very same social/dems who they have voted into office and who are about to be exited.

It has already started with the '10 elections and will not be completed until after '12 or later.

Maybe what hurts most is that even with all of the money you have been given, your king has decided to spend it in politics for a remedy but there is no fix any more.

It's that slow death hurts.

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>that isnt the problem it how the I have seen and heard people say how the international UAW is not supportive of their Local UAW's. All International UAW was interested in was collecting dues and keeping good relationship with the companies where they were organized at the cost of the workers.

whom did you here it from?, Fox News lol

Pete wrote:

Wifey says:
It's already been established in here and many times over, what hurts is the truth and not the words...

The point of this whole discussion is not about words, it's about that socialist party uaw whose very existence is because of the TARP as that they continue soaking off the Tax Payers.

It's by those very same people who they have elected into office and who they continue spending their money on with hopes that everything stays the same...

The fallacy of that kind of thinking is the reality that has its way sooner or later...

and it's very existence today is only because of those very same social/dems who they have voted into office and who are about to be exited.

It has already started with the '10 elections and will not be completed until after '12 or later.

Maybe what hurts most is that even with all of the money you have been given, your king has decided to spend it in politics for a remedy but there is no fix any more.

It's that slow death hurts.

so what are you gonna say when Obama wins again in November

the truth wrote:

<quoted text> whom did you here it from?, Fox News lol

god no, people I know that used to work in UAW represented plants

the truth wrote:

<quoted text>
so what are you gonna say when Obama wins again in November

I am convinced of that, the Republicans have hung themselve to dry.
Then after what Mitch McConnell said what the Republicans Top Priority was

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Wifey says:
The political notes are well taken on both sides of the aisle. On the one side you have the Accorns who used voter fraud to put those in office who are there now and the result was the So-called "voter ID" laws appeared.

Then on the other side you have the Tea Party'ers with their Tax Benefit laws from GW Bush.

Then in the middle there are the Independents, like us, who know this country doesn't have a tax problem at all- It has an over spending problem that's caused by who holds the office of president as he pushs the buttons and pulls the strings of the machine to make it all happen.

As a matter of fact, it all falls unto his lap as those who he supports go along for the ride.

That's what needs to addressed and stopped.

So maybe, just maybe, most Americans will agree to that next time around when it comes to voting someone into office...

but does it really matter when? I think not. Reality is inevitable...

and we can vote either way.

Wifey says:
The political notes are well taken on both sides of the aisle. On the one side you have the Accorns who used voter fraud to put those in office who are there now and the result was the So-called "voter ID" laws appeared.

Then on the other side you have the Tea Party'ers with their Tax Benefit laws from GW Bush.

Then in the middle there are the Independents, like us, who know this country doesn't have a tax problem at all- It has an over spending problem that's caused by who holds the office of president as he pushs the buttons and pulls the strings of the machine to make it all happen.

As a matter of fact, it all falls unto his lap as those who he supports go along for the ride.

That's what needs to be addressed and stopped.

So maybe, just maybe, most Americans will agree to that next time around when it comes to voting someone into office...

but does it really matter when? I think not. Reality is inevitable...

and we can vote either way.

Pete wrote:

Wifey says:
The political notes are well taken on both sides of the aisle. On the one side you have the Accorns who used voter fraud to put those in office who are there now and the result was the So-called "voter ID" laws appeared.
Then on the other side you have the Tea Party'ers with their Tax Benefit laws from GW Bush.
Then in the middle there are the Independents, like us, who know this country doesn't have a tax problem at all- It has an over spending problem that's caused by who holds the office of president as he pushs the buttons and pulls the strings of the machine to make it all happen.
As a matter of fact, it all falls unto his lap as those who he supports go along for the ride.
That's what needs to be addressed and stopped.
So maybe, just maybe, most Americans will agree to that next time around when it comes to voting someone into office...
but does it really matter when? I think not. Reality is inevitable...
and we can vote either way.

That's very true...

The president still thinks he can build economic prosperity with more spending, taxes, and debt. Those are the building materials for an economic time-bomb that will explode on future generations.