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Mesa terminates pilot training program

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#87
Friday Nov 6
 
For us, freedom loving Americans, the noise generated by aircraft represent the "sound of freedom." Love it or leave it.....
ace in the hole

Albuquerque, NM

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#88
Friday Nov 6
 
someone please give the dawg (darwinsdog) a bone...........
Verdad Cazador

Albuquerque, NM

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#89
Friday Nov 6
 
JustWondering wrote:
For us, freedom loving Americans, the noise generated by aircraft represent the "sound of freedom." Love it or leave it.....
Amen, man...
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#90
Friday Nov 6
 
darwinsdog wrote:
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In the first place, the homes and farms and orchards and irrigation ditches in the Glade and along La Plata pre-date the Wright brothers ever having got their motorized glider to lift off, let alone the Farmington airport having been mislocated atop the little mesa right in town. And in the second place, many of those who built or purchased homes after the airport was built were still there long before Mesa Airlines and San Juan College decided that it might be a good idea to have student pilots mindlessly fly around in circles above residential neighborhoods, in cheap little airplanes that sound like they're powered by two stroke chainsaw engines.
Look folks, no one would have any objection to the pilot training program if it was conducted in a responsible manner. If students were being trained from a remote air field away from town, where the noise and risk didn't bother and threaten the safety of anyone, and in quality aircraft, there'd be no complaint. The whining exhibited by the handful of students and others who will no longer be disturbing the peace of thousands of citizens does nothing but put on public display the arrogance and selfishness of these few.
Face it, the Farmington airport may have been adequate to the aviation needs of the community back in the days of biplanes, when it was built, but it has long since outlived its usefulness and today is nothing more than a public nuisance and an anachronism. Larger planes don't actually take off from the Farmington airport, they simply fly off the edge of the mesa, where the runways end. If Farmington is to grow and have a future as a regional aviation center, a modern airport of adequate size and facilities needs to be built in a flat area well outside of town. This is the simple truth and those of you with selfish interests who protest otherwise display zero concern for the well being of others or for the community.
Instead of the MAPD students, you should worry about the "Skinflyers" that are circling your house and transmitting radar beams into your head. Put on your aluminum foil hat and hide in the basement now.
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Albuquerque, NM

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#91
Friday Nov 6
 
Skinflyers must of knocked out that internet connection or the dog got her bone.......
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#93
Saturday Nov 7
 
LMNO!!!!!
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#94
Sunday Nov 8
 
I was really enjoying this exchange with darwinsdog. So, what happened to you Gayle? Did you finally give up?
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Albuquerque, NM

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#95
Sunday Nov 8
 
What the French Toast wrote:
How many Mesa pilots have crashed and burned? Just wundering.
Not many, but a passenger plane flown by a pilot with cocaine seething through his veins crashed near Bayfield, CO killing several people including himself in the 1980s.
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Albuquerque, NM

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#96
Sunday Nov 8
 
I guess there will be no one to create excitement and suspense, like former Mesa student pilot Jeff Lewis did a few years back, crashing into the Farmington police department in his corporate 1920s Polish biplane trainer.
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#97
Sunday Nov 8
 
darwinsdog wrote:
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I think that most of the regular SJC students think they're a bunch of Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses, since they dress like the folks who pester you on weekend mornings.
Ignorant people make me sick, they dress as professional pilots while at SJC for their classes you have no idea how the program is run go back under the rock you came from, do you know what dress for sucess is, my sons in this program and hes got a great future because of the great instructors there.
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#98
Sunday Nov 8
 
WalksWithBoner wrote:
I guess there will be no one to create excitement and suspense, like former Mesa student pilot Jeff Lewis did a few years back, crashing into the Farmington police department in his corporate 1920s Polish biplane trainer.
corporate 1920s polish biplane trainer? that boner is restricting the blood flow to your brain and making you sound STUPID!
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Sunday Nov 8
 
CrashTestDummy wrote:
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Not many, but a passenger plane flown by a pilot with cocaine seething through his veins crashed near Bayfield, CO killing several people including himself in the 1980s.
Einstein, what does that have to do with Mesa Pilot Development?
Verdad Cazador

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#100
Sunday Nov 8
 
pilotsdad wrote:
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Ignorant people make me sick, they dress as professional pilots while at SJC for their classes you have no idea how the program is run go back under the rock you came from, do you know what dress for sucess is, my sons in this program and hes got a great future because of the great instructors there.
Actually, I would just like to add that the dress code was changed a few weeks ago... it was made into "business casual" attire (i.e nice khaki pants, and a collared shirt), but, the vast majority of the students chose to wear the uniforms as a choice... I think this really says a lot about the level of commitment of the people within the program... we were proud of what we did...
Furloughed Mesa Pilot

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#101
Sunday Nov 8
 
John Hayward (or if that is your "AT&T call center name" being from India). My former colleagues and I are a highly experienced pilot group and work harder than any other regional pilot. Yeah, we know we get paid low like most of the other regionals, our CEO Jonathan Orstein is not the best whatsoever, but we deal with it because we love to fly. It's an airline. What do you expect? 1500hrs+, college degree, and ATP don't make you a better a pilot than the all of us. Believe me, Mesa roots out wannabe airline pilots like yourself because you don't have the right attitude. You're too bitter.
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#102
Monday Nov 9
 
Please MESA Gods contain your students they are flying above my house with rays destroyng my cyber connectivity. Oh wait I hear voices no spaceships, who will I call.
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#103
Monday Nov 9
 
CrashTestDummy wrote:
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Not many, but a passenger plane flown by a pilot with cocaine seething through his veins crashed near Bayfield, CO killing several people including himself in the 1980s.
What in the Hell does this have to do with Mesa Airlines? The flight in question was Trans Colorado and the captain was not a Mesa trained pilot. The amount of Cocaine detected in his blood was a tiny trace amount and the NTSB did not determine that it was a leading cause of the crash. I believe your answer should be "Not ANY".
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#104
Monday Nov 9
 
CrashTestDummy wrote:
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Not many, but a passenger plane flown by a pilot with cocaine seething through his veins crashed near Bayfield, CO killing several people including himself in the 1980s.
"cocaine seething through his veins". Wow! Talk about purple prose.
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#105
Tuesday Nov 10
 
“Mesa terminates pilot training program”

Christmas came early this year, Merry Christmas everyone!

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#106
Tuesday Nov 10
 

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Unfortunately, these are typical comments from the ignorance of Farmington. Those who want to argue that Mesa did nothing for this community don't understand simple economics. You would think that this community would have embraced a company that was founded here, but instead all I have heard over the years was nothing but criticism. What it all amounted to was people wanting handouts from the company as well as having a feeling of entitlement that this community should be able to dictate to a company on how it runs. The sad thing is that our economy is bad and this won't help. Also, the way this community treated Mesa and some other businesses will make it difficult for Farmington to attract others to come here. Sadly those who complained the most and loudest will see this as a victory when if fact it is a defeat for this community, it shows that some here don't want Farmington to grow and prosper. Are these people also happy that Western You don't have to like the people in charge of a company but those affected the most by Mesa shutting down are the employees who are residents of this community. It is easy to point out what you don't like about someone or something, you can always find one person who can complain about any business or who had a bad experience. Unfortuantely, the rest who complain are just jumping on a bandwagon because they are intelligent enough to make their own opinion. I see Western Refinery is closing too, should we be happy for that also? I am curious how the haters think a city or county can survive without revuneu coming in.
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#107
Wednesday Nov 11
 
First off, i read majority of these posts and everyone is forgetting a crucial thing about the bill trying to get passed. IF IT DOES PASS!!! WE ARE BACK TO HIGH DEMAND FOR PILOTS!!! why do you think airlines (i.e MESABA, PINNACLE, etc.) lowered the requirements in the first place? The 1,500 hour rule just can't be enforced enough. Older pilots are retiring not to mention the economy is going to climb up again. I don't see this bill passing and if it does it will be ousted in the next few years (by or on 2014). Therefore, for all of you mesa pilot peeps out there, think outside the box? do you really want to fly? How about jetting off to africa to fly single engine aircraft during tourist season? all you need is a C172 rating... you really want to fly? Then do it... I am sick of hearing whining and complaining from all these posts... get over it. I am one of those 175 grand in debt for pilot training people and I am keeping my head up. For I know whats really going on. So find a job (or different career) and go for it. Furthermore, if you can't move outside of the states for a job then maybe flying just isn't the right thing in this point of time for some of you.
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