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captain A
Phoenix, AZ
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Airbus sucks ...boeing is kicking your butt. That A380 is a lemon and is going to bankrupt france. WAAAA HA HA HA !
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Brown Sugar
Mesquite, TX
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captain A wrote: Airbus sucks ...boeing is kicking your butt. That A380 is a lemon and is going to bankrupt france. WAAAA HA HA HA ! Totally agree. Happy to see Boeing kicking their butts. It appears everything from the A-320 to the A-380 have landing gear problems. If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going! If Airbus takes the Consortium down, so be it.
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william
London, UK
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captain A wrote: Airbus sucks ...boeing is kicking your butt. That A380 is a lemon and is going to bankrupt france. WAAAA HA HA HA ! I don't think so. Anyway, Airbus is a consortium with France, Germany, UK and Spain. The fact is that Airbus, created only in 1970, has taken half of the world market from its American competitors in less than 30 years!! Until then, American aircraft manufacturers didn't have competition. With the arrival of Airbus, the US aircraft industry had to reorganise to face a more efficient rival, with a better and cheaper product. Hence several mergers in the US aircraft industry. The fact is that even with production delays, many airlines have confirmed their orders to Airbus.
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pesky
Nové Mesto Nad Váhom, Slovakia
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let´s get the facts here boys !
..last ten years there is no competion between the two..it´s home run for airbus ! try to read the statistics sometimes..if those orders for airbus are to be met..that´s pretty close for jumbo to go into oblivion..
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Brown Sugar
Arlington, TX
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william wrote: <quoted text>
I don't think so. Anyway, Airbus is a consortium with France, Germany, UK and Spain. The fact is that Airbus, created only in 1970, has taken half of the world market from its American competitors in less than 30 years!!
Until then, American aircraft manufacturers didn't have competition. With the arrival of Airbus, the US aircraft industry had to reorganise to face a more efficient rival, with a better and cheaper product. Hence several mergers in the US aircraft industry.
The fact is that even with production delays, many airlines have confirmed their orders to Airbus. Cheaper, not better. Never. Just a large tube full of glitter and glamour, but not a safe and reliable product with regard to the A-380 and nearly all smaller models down to the A-320. I would not take a chance and go up in anything produced by Airbus. It's unfortunate our friends in UK became involved in that consortium.
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Raymond
Annemasse, France
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Brown Sugar wrote: <quoted text>
Cheaper, not better. Never. Just a large tube full of glitter and glamour, but not a safe and reliable product with regard to the A-380 and nearly all smaller models down to the A-320. I would not take a chance and go up in anything produced by Airbus. It's unfortunate our friends in UK became involved in that consortium. Oh, brilliant. We now have an "unbiased" EXPERT in aviation from the USA. What a suprise!
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william
Croydon, UK
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Brown Sugar wrote: <quoted text>
Cheaper, not better. Never. Just a large tube full of glitter and glamour, but not a safe and reliable product with regard to the A-380 and nearly all smaller models down to the A-320. I would not take a chance and go up in anything produced by Airbus. It's unfortunate our friends in UK became involved in that consortium. I am not an aviation expert, but maybe you are. As far as safety record goes, I don't think Airbus has anything to be ashamed of compared to other airliners. I think that the biggest objection from America regarding Airbus, is that it's successful! After all, for now 40 years, the American aircraft industry has been dominating the market, with practically no opposition. The Airbus consortium was looked upon as another silly European adventure,'till it became a threat to US aviation, and forced several companies to merge or disappear, leaving Boeing alone. Since 2000, Airbus has been ahead of Boeing, bar 2006, and the future look promising too, with the launch of the A 380, the biggest single investment by one company. Boeing has reacted too late, and tried to scupper Airbus claiming that it had received government subsidies, which it did, but not illegally - it was done in the open. Unfortunatly, Boeing itself had relied on US government help in the past, with murky deals disguised as defence contracts, and therefore lost the moral ground once this was discovered. The British partner, BAE, is going to relinquish its shares, a condition before being allowed to bid for US defence contracts; fair play is not an American expression!
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Raymond
Annemasse, France
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william wrote: <quoted text>
I am not an aviation expert, but maybe you are. As far as safety record goes, I don't think Airbus has anything to be ashamed of compared to other airliners. I think that the biggest objection from America regarding Airbus, is that it's successful! After all, for now 40 years, the American aircraft industry has been dominating the market, with practically no opposition. The Airbus consortium was looked upon as another silly European adventure,'till it became a threat to US aviation, and forced several companies to merge or disappear, leaving Boeing alone.
Since 2000, Airbus has been ahead of Boeing, bar 2006, and the future look promising too, with the launch of the A 380, the biggest single investment by one company. Boeing has reacted too late, and tried to scupper Airbus claiming that it had received government subsidies, which it did, but not illegally - it was done in the open. Unfortunatly, Boeing itself had relied on US government help in the past, with murky deals disguised as defence contracts, and therefore lost the moral ground once this was discovered.
The British partner, BAE, is going to relinquish its shares, a condition before being allowed to bid for US defence contracts; fair play is not an American expression! Hmm, To sum it up, I think its called Blairism in the UK? Further, I agree generally, the American corporations don't even recognise the term fairplay. More of course, why should they, since they are the real power in the USA. What price "democracy", one billion dollars?
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captain A
Phoenix, AZ
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Raymond, Business isnt to play fair its to make money by beating the competition. Same thing in war, once you learn that in france maybe you will win for once.
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T Paine
United States
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Airbus has taken orders in 2006 consistent with their manufacturing capacity. The A380 will come online soon enough to satisfy pent-up demand. Boeing has yet to prove it can deliver on its huge orderbook. When the delays start happening ( as they will ), Boeing will be the one making apologees and losing orders on the Dreamliner.
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william
London, UK
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captain A wrote: Raymond, Business isnt to play fair its to make money by beating the competition. Same thing in war, once you learn that in france maybe you will win for once. The thing is once you stop playing fair, you can find someone else playing really dirty. Even business has to follow certain rules. Now, Captain A, I would like you to educate all of us and enumarate all the wars you won. I am not talking about your Play Station here...
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Brown Sugar
Arlington, TX
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Raymond wrote: <quoted text>
Hmm, To sum it up, I think its called Blairism in the UK? Further, I agree generally, the American corporations don't even recognise the term fairplay. More of course, why should they, since they are the real power in the USA. What price "democracy", one billion dollars? We believe in winning, not surrendering.
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Raymond
Sčte, France
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Brown Sugar wrote: <quoted text>
We believe in winning, not surrendering. Well, The very short history of the USA and its involvement in warfare does'nt look to impressive. Although I admit my great grandfarther did tell me you colonials were quite adept at killing each other. LOL. Before you crow about winning, face up to your many defeats.
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captain A
Litchfield Park, AZ
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To William, I won in the "COLA" wars, I lost the war of my divorce...Im having a tough time in the war with my weight. We are loosing the drug war and the war on illegal immigration. Thats why I pick on france...I can win that one. lol!
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Capt T Mason
Los Angeles, CA
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As a seasoned pilot, I can say that Airbus builds better planes than Boeing. Just because Boeing outsold Airbus for the first time in five years, it does not mean that Boeing is a better plane. I have flown both manufacturers and I would rather have a flight plan problem to solve on an Airbus than a Boeing anyday.
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Capt T Mason
Los Angeles, CA
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As a seasoned pilot, I have to say that Airbus builds better planes than Boeing. Just because Boeing outsold Airbus in 2006 (the first time in five years)does not mean that Boeing is better. As a pilot, I would rather solve an inflight problem on an Airbus than a Boeing anytime.
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william
London, UK
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Capt T Mason wrote: As a seasoned pilot, I have to say that Airbus builds better planes than Boeing. Just because Boeing outsold Airbus in 2006 (the first time in five years)does not mean that Boeing is better. As a pilot, I would rather solve an inflight problem on an Airbus than a Boeing anytime. Captain A. See, I told you...
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william
London, UK
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Captain A. This is going to really piss you off...
"European Aeronautic Defence & Space Co. may sell a 20 percent stake in its Airbus commercial jet division to Russian state interests.
According to the article posted on the Web site of business magazine Capital, Russia is interested in acquiring a 20 percent interest in Airbus from EADS through a Russian state-owned bank or company.
The report said Boris Aleshin, Russian deputy prime minister, will be in Paris later this week and has scheduled meetings with EADS and Airbus chief executive Louis Gallois, as well as French President Jacques Chirac.
Russia is eager to gain a foothold in Europe's aerospace sector as a way to bolster its own industry."
That will give you more reasons to hate that 'French' aircraft!Ha, ha, ha...
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Raymond
Lyon, France
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william wrote: Captain A. This is going to really piss you off...
"European Aeronautic Defence & Space Co. may sell a 20 percent stake in its Airbus commercial jet division to Russian state interests.
According to the article posted on the Web site of business magazine Capital, Russia is interested in acquiring a 20 percent interest in Airbus from EADS through a Russian state-owned bank or company.
The report said Boris Aleshin, Russian deputy prime minister, will be in Paris later this week and has scheduled meetings with EADS and Airbus chief executive Louis Gallois, as well as French President Jacques Chirac.
Russia is eager to gain a foothold in Europe's aerospace sector as a way to bolster its own industry."
That will give you more reasons to hate that 'French' aircraft!Ha, ha, ha... Just to further piss captain A off. Welcombe mother Russia! LOL
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Brown Sugar
Arlington, TX
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Raymond wrote: <quoted text>
Well, The very short history of the USA and its involvement in warfare does'nt look to impressive. Although I admit my great grandfarther did tell me you colonials were quite adept at killing each other. LOL. Before you crow about winning, face up to your many defeats. Whatever our defeats, our success rate puts France to shame. Has France ever won a war, or even a battle? As for Captain T Mason, one has to consider where he operates from and his perspective. Not good!
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