Leominster parishioners say birth control mandate an attack on religious freedom

Mar 24, 2012 Full story: Sentinel & Enterprise 39

More than 25 protesters and their children stood outside St. Anna Church on Lancaster Street Friday voicing their ire over the Obama administration's decision mandating religious institutions provide contraceptives and other services that are objectionable to their faith.

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Really

Leominster, MA

#1 Mar 25, 2012
They object to laws that force their churches AS EMPLOYERS to provide contraception care coverage to their employees. Too bad they can't see the advantages in reduced maternity leave costs, absences due to child-related illnesses, day-care conflicts, snow days, etc. Assisted population control is a win-win, with the exception of dwindling diocese or parish constituents.
Trojan man

Leominster, MA

#2 Mar 25, 2012
Any kid can get free birth control from their schools, doctors or community outreach centers. It shouldn't be mandatory for any employer to have to buy condoms for an employee. If you can't afford to buy your own condom or you are to stupid to understand how an unwanted pregnancy will effect your life you shouldn't be having sex.
Really

Leominster, MA

#3 Mar 25, 2012
Trojan man wrote:
Any kid can get free birth control from their schools, doctors or community outreach centers. It shouldn't be mandatory for any employer to have to buy condoms for an employee. If you can't afford to buy your own condom or you are to stupid to understand how an unwanted pregnancy will effect your life you shouldn't be having sex.
We're usually talking about 20's, 30's and middle-aged married women who work for churches. As we all know condoms are not reliable and not reliably used. Why should working women now have to go out of their way to seek out a clinic on top of their already busy routines for something so benign? Men do not understand the basics. An IUD or vaginal ring or the pill is such an easy solution, but not if you have to go so far out of your way to obtain it.
Trojan man

Leominster, MA

#4 Mar 25, 2012
I will have to disagree. If you can find the time to go shopping at Victoria Secrets, go out to dinner and then spend the evening having sex you can find the time to talk to your doctor and get proper contraception. It's not a health care concern if you like having sex it's a choice unlike cancer where you have no choice and need help.
Really

Leominster, MA

#5 Mar 25, 2012
Trojan man wrote:
I will have to disagree. If you can find the time to go shopping at Victoria Secrets, go out to dinner and then spend the evening having sex you can find the time to talk to your doctor and get proper contraception. It's not a health care concern if you like having sex it's a choice unlike cancer where you have no choice and need help.
And you are fantasizing about women in the real world who work for a living and have normal relations with their husbands. It is a part of life, not a matter of "liking sex." Most women have hectic lives working, managing their homes, perhaps a child or two already, going to school to get advanced degrees, not strolling the malls, liesurely dining and seducing their mates. It is absolutely a health care concern misunderstood by men who are not participants in their womens' contraception. You obviously have not had a long term relationship of any significance.
Just Facts

Southborough, MA

#6 Mar 26, 2012
Really wrote:
They object to laws that force their churches AS EMPLOYERS to provide contraception care coverage to their employees. Too bad they can't see the advantages in reduced maternity leave costs, absences due to child-related illnesses, day-care conflicts, snow days, etc. Assisted population control is a win-win, with the exception of dwindling diocese or parish constituents.
Too bad you can't see that it is a clear attack on the religion of a group of people within this country, which is against the right to practice religion freely. Each step that our government tales to erode just a tiny portion of our rights becomes a collective intrusion into our lives and we will become like other countries where our rights have been stripped away.

Why should anyone expect that the church should ignore its teachings just because it hires people that are not Catholic. Should the Catholic Institutions require that a person be Catholic in order to get a job?

Lets carry it further...should our government accept Shariah Law as the law of the land in order to allow Muslims here?

When you become affiliated with an organization, like a religion, you should understand and respect the established rules within that religion.

When you come to the USA, you should understand and respect the established laws of USA.

If you are unwilling to accept the established rules or laws, don't become affiliated with it...pretty simple.
Trojan man

Leominster, MA

#7 Mar 26, 2012
Really wrote:
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And you are fantasizing about women in the real world who work for a living and have normal relations with their husbands. It is a part of life, not a matter of "liking sex." Most women have hectic lives working, managing their homes, perhaps a child or two already, going to school to get advanced degrees, not strolling the malls, liesurely dining and seducing their mates. It is absolutely a health care concern misunderstood by men who are not participants in their womens' contraception. You obviously have not had a long term relationship of any significance.
Well you are very wrong. My wife and I already have our children and have always been responsible about proper contraception. Yes we both work hard, have time for family, shopping and going out for dinner and intimacy. You make it sound imposible to have a normal life without the government buying you contraception. What will be next? The government should pay for your tampons because you are just too busy to go to cvs and buy your own?
Really

Leominster, MA

#8 Mar 26, 2012
Trojan man wrote:
<quoted text>Well you are very wrong. My wife and I already have our children and have always been responsible about proper contraception. Yes we both work hard, have time for family, shopping and going out for dinner and intimacy. You make it sound imposible to have a normal life without the government buying you contraception. What will be next? The government should pay for your tampons because you are just too busy to go to cvs and buy your own?
And you have missed the point of the whole discussion. As an employer, the Church is not exempt from providing contraception as any other form of medical care in the plans they offer. This not about the government covering contraception. As a husband, you should know the cost of family planning does not equal the cost, nor the convenience of buying tampons. It requires a doctor. Married couples should not be forced to use condoms because one of them works for the Catholic Church.
Really

Leominster, MA

#9 Mar 26, 2012
Just Facts wrote:
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Too bad you can't see that it is a clear attack on the religion of a group of people within this country, which is against the right to practice religion freely. Each step that our government tales to erode just a tiny portion of our rights becomes a collective intrusion into our lives and we will become like other countries where our rights have been stripped away.
Why should anyone expect that the church should ignore its teachings just because it hires people that are not Catholic. Should the Catholic Institutions require that a person be Catholic in order to get a job?
Lets carry it further...should our government accept Shariah Law as the law of the land in order to allow Muslims here?
When you become affiliated with an organization, like a religion, you should understand and respect the established rules within that religion.
When you come to the USA, you should understand and respect the established laws of USA.
If you are unwilling to accept the established rules or laws, don't become affiliated with it...pretty simple.
Funny you should mention that. I have a friend who just had an interview with a local Catholic Church and they opted not to hire her because they were looking for someone who was not looking for health care coverage. They made it clear they wanted someone who had another source of health care, i.e. a spouse's coverage.
Sure enough

Boston, MA

#10 Mar 26, 2012
"Friday voicing their ire over the Obama administration's decision mandating religious institutions provide contraceptives"

Back the truck up religious haters, there is no such thing!

"religious institutions" have had the exception since the beginning and there is no such mandate period.

It's too bad these people can't be bothered to understand correctly but it certainly is no surprise since they have no idea what their own Bible says.

"Obama is not a foreign born, brown skinned, anti-war socialist that gives away healthcare.

You’re thinking of Jesus."

Curious

Leominster, MA

#11 Mar 26, 2012
If religions are excempt from paying taxes why would they have to pay for mandatory purchase of contraceptives under this new health care system?
Really

Leominster, MA

#12 Mar 26, 2012
Curious wrote:
If religions are excempt from paying taxes why would they have to pay for mandatory purchase of contraceptives under this new health care system?
As an employer, they are required to provide health care. Contraception is considered health care. Just as Viagra is considered health care, even if it is not used to produce a child.
Dr Snippy Fixed Me

Washington, DC

#13 Mar 26, 2012
You know is bad is when you realize the condom was only half on afterwards. What is worse though is you remembered that you didn't have one on in the first place! Hahahahahahaha.
Really

Leominster, MA

#14 Mar 26, 2012
Dr Snippy Fixed Me wrote:
You know is bad is when you realize the condom was only half on afterwards. What is worse though is you remembered that you didn't have one on in the first place! Hahahahahahaha.
Thanks for making my point for me.
Right on

Leominster, MA

#15 Mar 26, 2012
If priests and nuns are supposedly celebate what in the hell would they need contraception for? Would'nt that be like buying a motorcycle for a blind person?
The Insider

Washington, DC

#16 Mar 26, 2012
Right on wrote:
If priests and nuns are supposedly celebate what in the hell would they need contraception for? Would'nt that be like buying a motorcycle for a blind person?
Trust me they are not celebate. There was a baby cemetary located behind the South Street School where the nun's newborns were buried for many years in order to keep the birth secret.
Just Facts

Southborough, MA

#17 Mar 26, 2012
Really wrote:
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Funny you should mention that. I have a friend who just had an interview with a local Catholic Church and they opted not to hire her because they were looking for someone who was not looking for health care coverage. They made it clear they wanted someone who had another source of health care, i.e. a spouse's coverage.
What would you expect? They will stop hiring potentially good employees because our government has decided it is OK to trample on religious liberty. This is the precise reason that our Constitution prohibits such intrusions into religion.

First, Obama and his cronies create a law that is clearly unconstitutional by forcing Americans to buy a product. It has NOTHING to do with health care and everything to do with health insurance...two different things.

Then, they mandate that a religious institution set aside a part of its religious doctrine because the government says so...won't happen and cannot happen...that too is unconstitutional.
Just Facts

Southborough, MA

#18 Mar 26, 2012
Really wrote:
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As an employer, they are required to provide health care. Contraception is considered health care. Just as Viagra is considered health care, even if it is not used to produce a child.
Medical people provide health care idiot, not employers.

Employers once had the option of providing a HEALTH INSURANCE benefit until Obamacare came about. The government unconstitutionally forced the purchase of HEALTH INSURANCE on all employers and then forced the issue of means to prevent pregnancy, which violates a doctrine within a religious institution...it cannot be allowed.
ward 5

Leominster, MA

#19 Mar 27, 2012
the new law bould require catholic hospital to provide birth control as part of their perscription program for their employee, you do not have to buy them, these same hospitals recieve money from the goverment to run their hospitals, these hospital hire people of all beliefs, and more than half of all catholic use birth control
Hey illegal

Fitchburg, MA

#20 Mar 27, 2012
ward 5 wrote:
the new law bould require catholic hospital to provide birth control as part of their perscription program for their employee, you do not have to buy them, these same hospitals recieve money from the goverment to run their hospitals, these hospital hire people of all beliefs, and more than half of all catholic use birth control


Learn how to speak English you inbred piece of garbage. You should have been left in a rubber and flushed away.

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