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Green job scam, a warning for HERS/RESNET Energy Rater training classes.

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#179
Nov 6, 2009
 
Folks, a Twitter campaign might be of use in getting the word out. I am not a twitter aficionado, but actually participated in a campaign against Microsoft Outlook a few weeks ago. You may have far more readers than participants here in this forum. An easier way to get people to become involved is to ask them to type a couple words in a tweet.

The Outlook campaign merely asked people to include ‘fixoutlook.org’ in their tweets. Microsoft responded fairly quickly with a somewhat condescending post on the Outlook Developers blog, which pissed people off enough to redouble their efforts.

It is not likely that RESNET will attract any attention, but Energy Star is a different story. Same with the EPA. On Google, you would need to be specifically looking for RESNET as I was. I was looking for a rating system to use on a home I am designing . I will not be trying for an Energy Star rating, nor will I employ a RESNET rater. The comment by QADD:“Face it, the reality is that Billy Bob and Brother builders who don't give a fuck about energy efficiency are going to be put out of business” Is very telling.

He stereotypes those who do not accept his version of energy efficiency as hillbillies who deserve to be driven out of business for their sins against the environment. The reality is that there are no Billy Bob Builders out there….unless you were to include builders that accept falsified ‘ratings’ as proof of environmental correctness. The reality is that all builders that want to remain builders are as environmentally conscious as their customers want them to be. Any more or less and they are out of business.

RESNET has a desire to team up with Europe and the UN in order to meet its goals. They want to include residential homes in the American version of the Cap & Trade scam that is currently reaming Europe a new asshole. There are trillions of dollars at stake and they want a chunk of the scam. The poor homeowners just want to lower their bills…in many cases, just to survive.

Mark
BILLY BOB & BROTHER BUILDERS, LLC.
Not giving a fuck about energy efficiency since 1977, and proud of it!
Bruce Wingfield

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#180
Saturday Nov 7
 
Jill,

Send your info to Marie, ASAP.
Dan

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#183
Sunday Nov 8
 
I posted that letter again, this time under my real name, Dan. Guess what, it's gone. Gotta wonder whats going on. I emailed Topix and asked why some of my posts have been removed and I never heard back from them. I guess freedom of speach doesn't exisit on Topix.
Mr Green

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#185
Monday Nov 9
 
mark wrote:
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An ad hominem argument from a college grad? How precious! Obviously, anyone who doesn’t agree with the official ‘green’ dogma must work for the devil (oil company, corporation, or fill in your own evil entity). Judging by your post, I would have to say that a Class 3 status from the University of Central Florida that is certified via RESNET, well --- blows!
......or are you working for Al Gore and his ‘carbon credit’ scammers? Hmmmmmmm
Rhoade is either a sucker that has a hard time facing the fact that he has been scammed by RESNET or the RESNET provider "Florida Solar Energy Center" is behind this posting trying to set themselves apart from the rest of this RESNET scam.

Think about it, this is a government sanctioned green job scam.
Bruce Wingfield

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#186
Monday Nov 9
 
Jill,

Please go to www.EnergyFraud.com and at the last page, paste your information and send it to me.

Thanks,

Bruce Wingfield
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#187
Monday Nov 9
 
I sent it to you Bruce, not Jill, and it appears that it is now posted. The reason I posted a portion of it above is because it's amazing that RESNET wants to change some of the rules that they don't enforce in the first place.

Second, everyone reading this should follow the link and post there opinions. I did
Mr Green

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#188
Monday Nov 9
 
Dan wrote:
I sent it to you Bruce, not Jill, and it appears that it is now posted. The reason I posted a portion of it above is because it's amazing that RESNET wants to change some of the rules that they don't enforce in the first place.
Second, everyone reading this should follow the link and post there opinions. I did
I have not been censored here in this forum. This forum is fair to anyone trying to defend RESNET. It is not likely that anyone from RESNET will post anything on a private edited blog.

We do not only write for ourselves, do we? We want to entice a discussion. As I pointed out, a discussion is more likely to develop in a non-private and OPEN forum like this one. Additionally, the people from RESNET read this forum as we all now by now.
Dan

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#189
Monday Nov 9
 
I'm not sure what you're saying Green or what it has to do with the post you replied to.

I do know that I posted that letter at least 5 times and by the next day it was gone. Topix hasn't replied with an explanation, so I'm just wondering what happened.
Dan

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#190
Tuesday Nov 10
 
Well, that letter has been removed again. Just so I'm clear, you guys saw it, right?
Mr Green

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#191
Tuesday Nov 10
 
Dan wrote:
Well, that letter has been removed again. Just so I'm clear, you guys saw it, right?
The reason that the letter is removed is that it is detected as an ad. Topix is one of the most free forum there is, but something that looks like an ad will be automatically be deleted.
Bruce Wingfield

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#192
Tuesday Nov 10
 
Dan,

Why don't you try the blog I started. Besides it needs some posts.

Go to www.homeenergyfraud.blogspot.com

Too bad Topix will not even give you a reply. Perhaps they are moving as fast as a RESNET investigation and you will know something in eight months.
Dan

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#193
Tuesday Nov 10
 
Thanks Mr. Green, that makes sense. Next time I'll just ask you any questions instead of writing to Topix.
Mr Green

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#194
Wednesday Nov 11
 
RESNET is CORRUPT.

If anyone doubt this fact, here is another example:

Here are some quotes from the Attorney General of Alaska's Notice of Settlement in the Matter of Steven Baden, now RESNET's Executive Director:

"Mr. Baden did not disclose to DOE's representative, Mr. Kaminsky, that he was present at these meetings or any other subsequent meetings in his own personal capacity to represent his own personal interests."

"During the pilot states meetings, Mr. Baden took the position that, rather than providing direct funding to AHFC's energy department, DOE should provide funding directly to home energy rating systems operating as nonprofits. Mr. Baden assured DOE that Ms. Collins nonprofit was the state's designated nonprofit and had the state's approval to apply for the pilot states grant from DOE. AHFC never authorized Mr. Baden to take that position. Ms. Collins received a benefit from Mr. Baden's action."

"Mr. Baden did not receive authorization from AHFC to allow the use of the Energy Rated Homes program name by a private nonprofit."

"The state alleged that Mr. Baden had taken official action that benefited himself and provided unwarranted benefits to a third party, Ms. Collins. The state further alleged that Mr. Baden had failed to report his conflicts of interest"

"Mr. Baden will pay a fine of $5,000 within 10 business days of the date of execution of this stipulation."

"Mr. Baden acknowledges that the facts described in paragraphs 1-39 are true and correct, to the best of his knowledge."

"Mr. Baden acknowledges that his actions set out in paragraphs 1-39 resulted in violations of the Act. Further, Mr. Baden acknowledges that he and Ms. Collins benefited from his actions as described in paragraphs 1-39"

"Mr. Baden agrees to release the State of Alaska, the Alaska Housing Finance Corporation, the Alaska Department of Law, and all state employees from any claims that he may have arising out of his employment, the investigation, filing and litigation of the matters contained in the Second Amended Accusation filed before the Personnel Board on June 15, 1998."

http://www.law.state.ak.us/pdf/opinions/opini...

Bruce Wingfield

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#195
Wednesday Nov 11
 
Mr. Green,

After reading the Alaska Ethics Complaint, where can I apply for a government job wherein I pay a fine of $5,000 when my income was ten times this amount?
Mr Green

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#196
Wednesday Nov 11
 
R - Ruse
E - Energy
S - Savings
N - No
E - Efficiency
T - Tendered
Bruce Wingfield

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#197
Wednesday Nov 11
 
Real, Energy, Savings, Not, Ever, Tried

In fact, how do you measure Al Gore's Carbon footprint at his home, when five energy inspectors could give you five different evaluations?

Anyone want to see my Thermo Imaging Pictures? Go to www.EnergyFraud.com
Mr Green

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#198
Sunday Nov 15
 
To Sharla Riead from

Accurate Rater Network

How many rater candidates have you certified this year?

Sharla, why do you refuse to answer this question??

We all know that you read this forum!!!
Dan

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#199
Sunday Nov 15
 
Have you noticed that this whole page with exception of the first post is all comments fom myself, Bruce, and Mr Green? This is what happens, these people defending RESNET get backed into a corner and can't come up with any new lies to defend themsleves, so they just run away. I've seen this with all the state agencies I've dealt with, the town board, the builder and his sub's etc.
Mr Green

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#200
Sunday Nov 15
 
Dan wrote:
Have you noticed that this whole page with exception of the first post is all comments fom myself, Bruce, and Mr Green? This is what happens, these people defending RESNET get backed into a corner and can't come up with any new lies to defend themsleves, so they just run away. I've seen this with all the state agencies I've dealt with, the town board, the builder and his sub's etc.
Post links to this forum on every other related articles and forums that you can find on the internet. We all have to do our civic duty to expose these rotten scammers!
Bob

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#201
Monday Nov 16
 
It's posted on RESNETS Facebook page, but don't tell them. LOL
Tell me when this thread is updated!
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