Isiah, say goodbye to Marbury for good -

The home fans need to stay home! The Garden is infested with vermin, from Dolan to Zeke to Stephano. Yech! Why would anyone show any support whatsoever for this sorry bunch of creeps. Ugh! I can't remember any sports franchise ever, that sunk to such filthy depths. I will never support this team while this lowlife garbage remains.

You talk like the KIngs are an automatic trading partner with you guys.
Do you think our GM is that naive...that stupid...to want to trade what limited talent we have for Stephan??
I'd rather watch our young kids play hard...leave it on the court...and loose that to watch Marbury hoist up 3's.
You guys signed him to this horrendous contract.
To put it bluntly...you are reaping what you sowed!
Trade him to New Jersey...or Miami...anywhere but here.
We are trying to rebuild a team...not tear it down!!

Steph left immediately after practice yesterday due to the death of his aunt (Telfair's grandmother). He was rushing to be with his parents. This was in the Post.

i really think that all Knicks fans must boycott all games, and threaten to not renew their season's tickets until this shameful triumvirate of Dolan, Thomas and Marbury are gone. At least Marbury will be gone soon anyway, sipping espressos in Italy. But all three need to be gone.

Listen Ken Cheeseburger, 1st of all his aunt just died, so stop criticing him for not wanting to talk to reporters. And why do you think that a team 8 games into the seaon need to change coaches and players? You probably arent from NY. Things happen and we propel and use it as fuel. Remember, we took in a man who choaked his coach(Sprewell) and went to the NBA Finals. So dont tell me with the caliber the Knicks have they wont make it far. You also must have forgotten that many injuries have taken place on the Knicks already, aside for Marbury's AWOL. Yes they are 2-6, so what. Look for a turnaround in the next few weeks

No trades. Don't even suggest a trade of Marbury or anyone else on this team. The Knicks would only be further saddled with useless players under even longer contracts like Mo Taylor, Moochie Norris, Luc Longley, Penny Hardaway, Shandon Anderson, Tim Thomas, Howard Eisley, Jerome Williams et al. or marginal talent like Curry, Crawford, Richardson etc. also under long cap-killing contracts. This must end now, and new management pre-approved by Stern should be brought in.

If benching Marbury was the right thing to do

Why should Thomas be fired for doing it?

I stopped watching the NBA years ago for the same reason many middle-class white-bread dudes did. This NY Knicks situation is absolutely awesome...I may have to get back into hoops. Not for the game play of course (it's unwatchable), but for the soap-opera like story lines. It's so out of hand, nobody even realizes that circumstances such as they are with the Knicks will drive the stake further into the NBA's heart. It's good to see, especially with this team being from NYC, the arsecrack of America.

Viewing Marbury purely through a basketball lens and ignoring all the off-court BS, I still would don't want him on my team. We've all played with this dude on the playground and hate him: brick jackin', no passin', no D-in', dick... you know you're loosing before you cross the lines.

That's how all of Marbury's teammates have felt his whole career and it brings everybody down and it shows with his winning percentage as a starting point guard. He is 30 now... he should have figured this out five year ago.

At this point, Starbury would be an addition by subtraction; trade him if you can, buy him out if you can't, and let the Italian basketball fans start pounding their heads in digust.

As for trades, send Marbury & Balkman OR Lee (got to give to get) to the Kings for Rahim, Thomas & Artest.

A side note about bringing in Coangello to take over the Knicks - Jimmy D needs to remember that's the guy that traded Jason Kidd for Marbury. Yeah, the Knicks need that guy running shit. Coangello was rescued from that deal by the only GM in the league with less sense than he has - one Isiah Thomas. And don't tell me about the bang up job he's done with team USA. How hard is it to pick 12-15 guys from the NBA talent pool that will mesh enough to beat non-NBA talent? Not very. And don't bring up the D-backs either, that's baseball, we're talking basketball.

the trades:

Artest:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/tradere...

Then send Reef or Thomas to Cleveland for Eric Snow:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/tradere...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/tradere...

or do a three way from the outset:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/tradere...

how hard is that: a cancer (marbury) and bench player in a position jam not getting minutes (balkman or lee) for the much coveted Artest. Those trades happen, NYK get's to the play-offs.

better yet, the three way:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/tradere...

then buy out k. thomas at $22M rather than Starbury's $42M AND get Artest, a solid back-up bet at point, and relieve the position jams Isiah keeps creating by bringing in the same player over and over again.

save money and get better.

the Kings get a young good wing defender (balkman), ditch some bad contracts, and even save some dough buying out Starbury.

A thin Cavs front line gets some much needed help for a player they're considering buying out anyway.

And the Knicks get Artest, ditch Marbury, and save some dough buying out K.Thomas.

Does: Collins, Crawford, Artest, Randolph, Curry, with Nate, Lee & Q coming off the bench sound like a good rotation to you Knicks fans? I thought so.

How about a three-way?
Kings, NY & Miami?
(salaries match)
NY gets: MBibby & KThomas
MI gets: SMarbury
SAC gets: RDavis, Jwill, DLee

trade marbary to clevlend for varlio

I can't believe some of you are suggesting a Marbury for Artest trade. Where is the positive in that? One piece of dodo for another sociapathic retard?Release Marbury outright, fire Thomas and research the once proud history of our team and rebuild with the same type of hard nosed players.

Who cares basketball sucks! Football is where its at.

Stiff has never been a leader. Instead he has shown he is completely the opposite of that. The fact the point is the leader on the floor. Makes you wonder why ANYONE would want him to man the point. I gave him the benifit of the doubt when we got him. Hoped NYC would change him. He's only ruined evrything we have tried to do. And influenced the young players in the wrong direction. Isiah gambled and lost with him. Both of them should be run out. Fire Isiah for ineptitude. Pay the Stiff to saty at home and trade his contract next yr , when you can. Get a real coach ............

Make it four player trade Tinsley and Oneal for Marbbury and Randolph.And you can have Bird and we keep Walsh !!!!!!!!!!

marbury needs to be traded for good his not helping the knicks to win games.

The knicks were better off with allan houston which thomas decline the player cus of 15 players that's already on the team. Houston one of the greatest shooters in the franchise history could make knicks win back to back games. thomas did the wrong thing on houston