Marlins' Benitez falls apart after Ramirez's error -- South Flo...

UKOH wrote:

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Juan
Any ideas of the English translations? These are tough ones for a native English speaker. I can attempt the following:
(1) Keep a brave face during bad times
(2) It happened: FORGETABOUTIT!!!
(3) No good comes without bad
These are attempts to translate the Spanish idioms into English idioms - not the words themselves!
Did I get it? Verdict please!

I usually translate when I quote something in Spanish, but this time I was in a hurry--and perhaps I was tempted to tweak the nativist crowd...LOL!

Your translations are not bad; I'd render them as folows:

1)In stormy weather, put on a brave face.

2)What's done is done (live with it).

3)'Tis an ill wind that blows no good.

(Literally: there is nothing so bad that it doesn't
have some good in it.)

The 'stickiness' and charm of an adage or idiom is that it expresses a truth in a trenchant way. Translations often fall short in trying to capture both the meaning of the words and the unique way a particular language has of combining certain words for effect: as a certain native English-speaker once wrote, "Brevity is the soul of wit."

As usual the Marlins picked up Benitez because the Giants picked up his salary. The Marlin Fans should continue to not attend the games and support this lousy owner. Loria is already making 30 million without attendece, thanks to MLB system. MLB she not reward owners for not spending money. Hey Samson any offers to move?

Takemeouttotheballgame wrote:

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I usually translate when I quote something in Spanish, but this time I was in a hurry--and perhaps I was tempted to tweak the nativist crowd...LOL!
Your translations are not bad; I'd render them as folows:
1)In stormy weather, put on a brave face.
2)What's done is done (live with it).
3)'Tis an ill wind that blows no good.
(Literally: there is nothing so bad that it doesn't
have some good in it.)
The 'stickiness' and charm of an adage or idiom is that it expresses a truth in a trenchant way. Translations often fall short in trying to capture both the meaning of the words and the unique way a particular language has of combining certain words for effect: as a certain native English-speaker once wrote, "Brevity is the soul of wit."

Unlike some, I have no problem with Spanish, or other languages for that matter, being spoken in the USA and used on these forums.

I am English but speak German and Spanish - unfortunately that's quite unusual for a Brit.

German in regarded as a difficult language but interestingly its use of idiom is quite poor compared to English or Spanish. You are so right - idoms are the spice of language. I think it is no accident that a country with such a rigid language (although German does have a lot of beauty in the hands of an expert poet) has produced a lot of rigid people.

I see from your translations where I went wrong. However, as an idiom to idiom translation I quite like my New York FORGETABOUTIT effort for (2)- gives the translation a little spice of its own.