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Jocko
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You can in large part blame modern liberalism for this but of course the liberals will want a new tax and new government program which as history and experience shows, will do nothing positive to change the situation. If you want less poor and less violence in these areas, ditch liberalism.
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OctoberSky
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Did they take into account obesity? Have you ever stood in line at the grocery store behind somebody buying with food stamps? Between the Hostess Ho Ho's, potato chips and Easy Mac it's pretty easy to figure how supposedly poor people end up huge. Thing is, it costs no more to eat a much healthier diet, maybe less really but that would mean actually making a meal and that takes work and you know that's not gonna happen.
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Mike Baltimore
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October Sky - I think tou nailed it. I was in line last week behind a women . She had 2 kids running around eating doughnuts, one kid in the food cart, eating an ice-cream. She also had a kid IN her womb. She was at least 250lbs, sucking on a ice-cream cone. Most of her food basket was junk, all paid for with food stamps and wic. Excuse me, all paid for by US!!!!!!!! They should force people like that to be sterlized.
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dave z
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i really think the main reason for the highly likilihood of illness and heart conditions is social economic reasons. the lack of disposable income and insurance causing many to not seek preventative care or screenings. not to undermine the stresses of living in an area with hard streets
*note i also find the picture used in the article with a man in a wheelchair next to a sign posted "keep off steps" mildly offensive*
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Time is now
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Thank you Captain Obvious. I can't believe someone actually funded this research. What a waste of money! This just in...studies have shown that reading the Baltimore Sun can cause decreased brain cell activity synonymous with extreme alcholism.
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boss lady
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October Sky and Mike Baltimore....you complain about what "people like that" eat and how they spend their foodstamps, but if noone ever thought them how to or the importance of eating healthy, how are they supposed to know what to do? I think it should be mandatory for everyone receiving food stamps to take nutrition classes to teach them better ways to spend their foodstamps. Why complain about something if you are not willing to do anything to help?
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greenlass
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The neighborhood of East Baltimore is filled with many good people of all ages. Imagine if you lived there, and knew that your chances of leaving it were very slim. And how must if affect the spirit to see housing all around you that is boarded up and abandoned, many by opportunistic landlords who take tax deductions and wait to take advantage of development plans through the city. As to the callous remarks made here about the dietary habits of people living in these neighborhoods, I would just suggest they take a drive through East Baltimore and tell me how many grocery stores they see. There are funeral parlors and liquor stores and churches, and that's about it. Let's see how any of our legislators would make out, living there on a poverty income, with no decent amenities or public transportation. It is a disgrace and a blight on the character of this city, that these neighborhoods and the residents are left resourceless and unattended. Baltimore should be gravely ashamed. Is this America? If one suffers, we all suffer.
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Sam
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OctoberSky wrote: Did they take into account obesity? Have you ever stood in line at the grocery store behind somebody buying with food stamps? Between the Hostess Ho Ho's, potato chips and Easy Mac it's pretty easy to figure how supposedly poor people end up huge. Thing is, it costs no more to eat a much healthier diet, maybe less really but that would mean actually making a meal and that takes work and you know that's not gonna happen. It cost quite bit more to eat healthier. A Michelena frozen dinner—jammed full of fat and sodium—retails for about $1.25. A Lean Cuisine, which contains much less additives, usually goes for about $3.25. Go the grocery store and contrast the price of lean and regular ground beef. You can feed a family of four at McDonalds on $10. Try using that same amount to make a salad for four.
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People are not babies
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boss lady wrote: October Sky and Mike Baltimore....you complain about what "people like that" eat and how they spend their foodstamps, but if noone ever thought them how to or the importance of eating healthy, how are they supposed to know what to do? I think it should be mandatory for everyone receiving food stamps to take nutrition classes to teach them better ways to spend their foodstamps. Why complain about something if you are not willing to do anything to help? Boss lady who "tought" you how to write. If I go into one of these people's houses and see a TV, then frankly I have no sympathy. We are bombarded by information on what is healthy to eat as well as with adds for things that are not. They are told what's good for them they just choose to ignore it.
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emjay
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Has anyone driven down madison street lately. jhh blocks out the sun and cast a shadow over east baltimore. perhaps that's part of the problem. jhh's efforts in the community have been self-serving--research provides salaries. has anyone investigated how people eat in pigtown or brooklyn or hamden or remington? i guess there is no money in that for jhh
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Vespa
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If someone isn't willing to work hard at getting an education, work hard at his job, and work hard at building a loving marriage, they shouldn't complain that they don't have all the things that people who do these things have.
Life is not kind to idlers. Never has been, never will be.
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Ex-Baltimoron
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Well, Duh.
I'm a lot happier since I left Baltimore.
Why anyone would stay, I have no idea. Walking outside and relaxing can get you killed? Sounds like a wonderful place. At least Mayor Dixon is taking care of shopping bags and Blunts. That'll fix EVERYTHING.
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It is stressful living in neighborhoods where there is no pride in the community. I lived at the intersection of Ashland Ave and Madiera Street. If though I and my family are peaceful people, there were many stressful situations in the neighborhood such as: Young people sitting on your steps. Young people using your block as a meeting zone and using profanity all night long, preventing peaceful sleep. Children leaning and play fighting on cars. Much of the stress came from the coduct of unruly children that lacked guidance at home.
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Dunn
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Clearly there are a lot of things that we could correlate to poor health in this area.
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Surf52
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Dunn wrote: Clearly there are a lot of things that we could correlate to poor health in this area. Yezh, like taking a bullet or two. That doesn't do a body any good I hear.
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Dennis
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First of all tobacco if you would picture it laying in the feild being sprayed with cancer chemical and the better the quality the more the farmer profits. Then picture you food laying there getting sprayed and the better the quality the more spray the better profits the farmer makes. Heart disease is from eating and drinking farm chemicals because farmers are not regulated . I am proof because I was 35 years old when I had my heart attavck/. and polluted wells meaning high nitrates and Atrazine being sprayed here in Farmland Pennsylvania in which every house arew strokes and heart attacks but its Agriculture the # one industry in Dep and Epa lie to preserve our jobs at hospitals.
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Vespa
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@ Dennis:
Guess all those pesticides affected your brain, eh?
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Listening
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Oh people, this is just a prelude for insurance companies to justify increasing rates based on location. No one is taking the garbage out of the food that the FDA and others legally allow in our "healthy" food. Forums like this one, just strengthen the insurance companies cases and pockets. Higher rates - coming to your pockets soon. When there is a problem, you help all people then you eliminate the problem not the people.
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Surf52
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Dennis wrote: First of all tobacco if you would picture it laying in the feild being sprayed with cancer chemical and the better the quality the more the farmer profits. Then picture you food laying there getting sprayed and the better the quality the more spray the better profits the farmer makes. Heart disease is from eating and drinking farm chemicals because farmers are not regulated . I am proof because I was 35 years old when I had my heart attavck/. and polluted wells meaning high nitrates and Atrazine being sprayed here in Farmland Pennsylvania in which every house arew strokes and heart attacks but its Agriculture the # one industry in Dep and Epa lie to preserve our jobs at hospitals. Is this what the doctors said caused your heart attack?
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Surf52
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Listening wrote: Oh people, this is just a prelude for insurance companies to justify increasing rates based on location. No one is taking the garbage out of the food that the FDA and others legally allow in our "healthy" food. Forums like this one, just strengthen the insurance companies cases and pockets. Higher rates - coming to your pockets soon. When there is a problem, you help all people then you eliminate the problem not the people. You are free to buy all the unprocessed food you want, you know, the kind that doesn't have anything added to it? And you can take off the tin foil hat now, too. We're all friends here.
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