Azerbaijani, US leaders discuss Turkey-Armenia ties

IF,
If turkey will open its borders with Armenia, Azerbaijan may (will) take a move in which Armenia has to act very careful not to fail to 1919-21 scenario.

Here is what happened in 1919-21.

With the red army taking control of all three republics in Caucus, Turkey attacked to Armenia and in the end start trading Armenian territories with Bolshevik Russia favoring to Azerbaijan and turkey. In order to keep the oil reach Azerbaijan, Russia went to satisfy almost all demands from turkey. This was the time when Nakhijevan, Gharabagh, Kars and Ardahan, went to turkey and Azerbaijan. You can google ‘Narimanov’ for more details, he was the 1st secretary of Bolsheviks in Azerbaijan at that time…

Now,
Aliev has already met with Russians and has announced publicly that Azerbaijan may change its geopolitical orientation toward Russia if separate deal will be revealed among Turkey-Armenia and Russia (The border deal).

Today Azerbaijan has very little credit with Russians in term of consistency on its “friendship”. It will be very hard for Azeries to come to high level cooperation with Russians even for long run also taking the fact that its oil industry is entirely depend on US/GB/EU will and capital. However Russia can confront with west and “forcibly” take control of Baku’s oil with “a deal” with Azeries similar to 1919-21. This scenario can be designed by Turks with azeries to manipulate Russia’s interest in the region since they know that Gharabagh and Armenia are backed by Russians.

IF,
If turkey will open its borders with Armenia, Azerbaijan may (will) take a move in which Armenia has to act very careful not to fail to 1919-21 scenario.

Here is what happened in 1919-21.

With the red army taking control of all three republics in Caucus, Turkey attacked to Armenia and in the end start trading Armenian territories with Bolshevik Russia favoring to Azerbaijan and turkey. In order to keep the oil reach Azerbaijan, Russia went to satisfy almost all demands from turkey. This was the time when Nakhijevan, Gharabagh, Kars and Ardahan, went to turkey and Azerbaijan. You can google ‘Narimanov’ for more details, he was the 1st secretary of Bolsheviks in Azerbaijan at that time…

Now,
Aliev has already met with Russians and has announced publicly that Azerbaijan may change its geopolitical orientation toward Russia if separate deal will be revealed among Turkey-Armenia and Russia (The border deal).
Today Azerbaijan has very little credit with Russians in term of consistency on its “friendship”. It will be very hard for Azeries to come to high level cooperation with Russians even for long run also taking the fact that its oil industry is entirely depend on US/GB/EU will and capital. However Russia can confront with west and “forcibly” take control of Baku’s oil with “a deal” with Azeries similar to 1919-21. This scenario can be designed by Turks with azeries to manipulate Russia’s interest in the region since they know that Gharabagh and Armenia are backed by Russians.

I’m expecting Turkey and Azerbaijan loudly blame each other for betrayal to make true impression of divorce. Further Russia-Azerbaijan intergovernmental development will show clearly how successful is this scenario…

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Samoxin wrote:

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that maybe because the contents are rubbish,no?

Here we go..., this is what I'm talking about:
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/1...

I'm not alone with my worries...
http://www.a1plus.am/en/politics/2009/04/14/s...

Hope there will be enough resistance from inside that this deal will fail.

LoL

This guy has a cool surname '' Sefilyan ''.

He indeed looks so Sefil.

'' My sources tell me that during the behind-the-scenes negotiations, the Armenian side is proposing the Turks to make investments in Armenia, restart factories and open tens of thousands of vacancies. The Turks are considering that and it is not excluded that they will take concrete steps. Do you imagine what awaits us? Some ten thousand Armenians will start working for the Turks and this means that the Turks will have rather serious levers in our domestic affairs," said Sefliyan.''

I simply don't understand these Armenians.Why Turkey's investing in Armenia would be a bad thing ? that would be a good thing as far as the armenians and Armenian economy are concerned.

I don't know who is this 'Stepan Grigoryan' but he is one this mother f**kers whom I would like to trully 'k`tcem katcus tak'. He says that being member of minsk group, turks will not harm but will benefit Armenia. His brain is located in his azz. Someone has to silent this idiot.

http://www.nt.am/news.php...

Samoxin wrote:

I don't know who is this 'Stepan Grigoryan' but he is one this mother f**kers whom I would like to trully 'k`tcem katcus tak'. He says that being member of minsk group, turks will not harm but will benefit Armenia. His brain is located in his azz. Someone has to silent this idiot.
http://www.nt.am/news.php...

maybe you should be silenced before him by butt- plugging you!

The trade is in the was as I was predicting...

http://www.kommersant.ru/doc.aspx...

Samoxin wrote:

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I wonder when you Armenians will finally stop telling tales. Naxchivan and Karabagh (Albanian Arsak) have never ever been and will never be Armenian.

You Poor Armenians, remeber my words: Lies have short legs!!! Soon your real face will come out!!!

shame on russia and it's Slaves (armenians)
when whole caucas nations vote for freedom you prefer to be slaves armenians are caucas treacherous!
Remember it is better to live one day free than a century as slaves!!!

hikmet wrote:

shame on russia and it's Slaves (armenians)
when whole caucas nations vote for freedom you prefer to be slaves armenians are caucas treacherous!
Remember it is better to live one day free than a century as slaves!!!

How come you are still alive after 70 years under the soviet flag.
You are just a fart and do not even smell.

Eventually caucasians will f**k this alcogolics!!!
interesting who's aZZhole armenians will be then?)))))))))

we won't open borders. goverment can't dare. tayyip know very well what will happen if he open borders..

Dander wrote:

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How come you are still alive after 70 years under the soviet flag.
You are just a fart and do not even smell.

What kind of answer is that Mr.Dander?
I thougt You were a civilised person, who is talking with dignity?

Teymur wrote:

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I wonder when you Armenians will finally stop telling tales. Naxchivan and Karabagh (Albanian Arsak) have never ever been and will never be Armenian.
You Poor Armenians, remeber my words: Lies have short legs!!! Soon your real face will come out!!!

I disagree with your assertions.Evidence on the ground and on maps shows otherwise.
Your claim of Albanian heritage is invalid.Turks conquered the region and including wiping out the Albanians therefore one can't claim something that one is partly responsible of distroying.Albanians comprised of over 26 ethnic groups which included Armenians.Turkish part is very small mostly Albanians who were converted to Islam and became "Turks"
Your true heritage is with Turkey.

azeriana wrote:

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What kind of answer is that Mr.Dander?
I thougt You were a civilised person, who is talking with dignity?

Sorry.
Keep it in and explode then.
You will be dead with dignity.

Qafqasia and Anatolia needs grand scale operation surgery .
Without elimenation of Turkey we will have neither have peace nor prosperty.

Kurds and Iranian should not allow themselves to be taken for a ride by Erdoghan propoganda .
Erdoghan is a front man for the CIA army of Turkey .Beware of sweet talking politicians, they are all same brands of Sakhtekars.