2010 Buick LaCrosse CXS is an American Lexus

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JJFADS wrote:

Just a reminder, Buick beat Lexus and if you want American luxury, put your money where your mouth is, buy a Buick. Lexus is not American. It’s just that simple.

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liner wrote:

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No it isn't.

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JJFADS wrote:

<quoted text>Back your claim with factual data.

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liner wrote:

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Total 2008 Buick sales: 137,197
Total 2008 Lexus sales: 260,087.
Don't ever underestimate the intelligence of the American public.

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eskymi wrote:

Boy the way some people act it's like America can't take a back seat in anything. I mean, we couldn't win at the Olympics so we start using pros. Our cars weren't as good, so we find reasons that Foreign cars are garbage.
We suck at soccer, but since we are the great USA and we didn't create the game, we don't like it so to justify our sucking we act like we don't care about the game and it's not important.
No wonder very few countries on the planet actually like and respect us.

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JJFADS wrote:

<quoted text>Buick beat Lexus in quality you schmuck, and it’s American. We weren’t talking about sales numbers. You force us to underestimate your intelligence.

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liner wrote:

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The whole point of building cars is to sell them, not to compete for some bogus quality poll. So, who won?

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JJFADS wrote:

<quoted text>Buick one –
And we must laugh at the fact you use the term “bogus quality.” Lexus has based its entire lifecycle on the pursuit of “perfection and quality”. That in itself negates your premise. As time moves on and you see more American vehicles topping the charts, sales will follow. At any rate, Lexus sales are dead. In fact, I think only the Scion line has experienced more of a sales decline then Lexus. If Toyota wants to bring back the Lexus nameplate they need to get back to making them unique. You must concede that over the years, Toyota got sloppy with the Lexus design team. They lost all of their personality.
Regardless, this thread has nothing to do with sales numbers. How you managed to derive sales numbers and attempt to utilize it as basis for an off topic argument is nothing more than an interesting and laughable tactical error.

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JJFADS wrote:

JD Power is the benchmark. You obviously don't know this industry.

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Well then, as an industry expert, you're surely aware that most, but not all, manufacturers pay big bux$$$ to JD Power for their poll results and that most of you industry experts consider them whores.
By the way, just what IS the point of building cars? Is it to sell the greatest number of them to your intended market, or is it to give JD Power something to sell to your marketing department? Hmmm?

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JJFADS wrote:

<quoted text>Like we said before, JD Powers is the benchmark. Makers giving cash to the benchmark is to be expected. Get a book and study the auto industry.