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Root wrote:
<quoted text>Those are interesting stats. The Prius can only get 15 miles on a charge?
Not even
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said the clueless socialist
Clueless he says!
Don`t think so.
At least some of us know the difference between the truth and a tall tale.
After 40,000 some odd posts, you certainly haven`t learned that, much less how to lie convincingly!(Other than how to cover up insecurity with a crappy attitude!)
Come on Vance--try to be civil (and honest)---it isn`t that hard.

Oh yeah--about the socialist nonsense--so whenever someone expresses an opinion you don`t agree with, you pull the socialist card.
Now THAT`S really clueless!
Sonny, you are a victim of your own misguided

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Proud Canadian wrote:
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Clueless he says!
Don`t think so.
At least some of us know the difference between the truth and a tall tale.
After 40,000 some odd posts, you certainly haven`t learned that, much less how to lie convincingly!(Other than how to cover up insecurity with a crappy attitude!)
Come on Vance--try to be civil (and honest)---it isn`t that hard.
Oh yeah--about the socialist nonsense--so whenever someone expresses an opinion you don`t agree with, you pull the socialist card.
Now THAT`S really clueless!
Sonny, you are a victim of your own misguided
No actually I am a victim of misguided democrats killing my relatives and stealing our lands.
Then also a victim of Americans selling off our country to Japan and China.
and these people are just like you, all for yourself, whats best for you. Not giving a shyt about What America is, You would sell your sister if people paid enough, isnt that right.

I will never Vote for Obama or buy an Imported Vehicle period
NO Matter how much people like you push the globalistic liberal agenda.
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Vance1 wrote:
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No actually I am a victim of misguided democrats killing my relatives and stealing our lands.
Then also a victim of Americans selling off our country to Japan and China.
and these people are just like you, all for yourself, whats best for you. Not giving a shyt about What America is, You would sell your sister if people paid enough, isnt that right.
I will never Vote for Obama or buy an Imported Vehicle period
NO Matter how much people like you push the globalistic liberal agenda.
We all know you tell tall tales to boost what seems to be an inferority syndrome.
But you consistently blame everyone and everything else for your perceived problems.
Adding it all up, your attitude sucks---and it's your own fault.
Maybe if you looked at life outside of all that..........

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chech this website you can find any car you want www.shubadak.com
Root

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I read in another thread some guy talking bad about the Volt and using CR as a reference. Volt is judged by the real life experiences of owners.
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And it gets much better mpg than other cars.
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I read in another thread some guy talking bad about the Volt and using CR as a reference. Volt is judged by the real life experiences of owners.
Root, perhaps your reading skills are somewhat lacking, Consumer Report Magazine actually bought a Volt and tested it without bias in any way. This accomplishes a couple of things.(1) since they BOUGHT a Volt they became a real life owner.(2) since they do not take advertising they have no backs to scratch and no need to distort the truth.(3) consumer report is acknowledged as the Bible of facts for consumers.

As far as the other real life owners of the Volt, if you just paid between 43 and 48K for a car that was not all that was advertised, would you admit to have being taken for that amount of money?

Reminds me of the late 70s when we had the gas shortage and the big rage was a screen that you could purchase for a fairly large price that you would place under the carb and supposed that your fuel mileage would about double. I knew quite a few people who bought that Pig in a Poke and most of them would not admit to have being taken, however, I did notich that not one of them bought a second one for their other car.
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Voice of Reality wrote:
<quoted text>Root, perhaps your reading skills are somewhat lacking, Consumer Report Magazine actually bought a Volt and tested it without bias in any way. This accomplishes a couple of things.(1) since they BOUGHT a Volt they became a real life owner.(2) since they do not take advertising they have no backs to scratch and no need to distort the truth.(3) consumer report is acknowledged as the Bible of facts for consumers.

As far as the other real life owners of the Volt, if you just paid between 43 and 48K for a car that was not all that was advertised, would you admit to have being taken for that amount of money?

Reminds me of the late 70s when we had the gas shortage and the big rage was a screen that you could purchase for a fairly large price that you would place under the carb and supposed that your fuel mileage would about double. I knew quite a few people who bought that Pig in a Poke and most of them would not admit to have being taken, however, I did notich that not one of them bought a second one for their other car.
There was a survey not too long ago sent to Volt customers to see the satisfaction rate. I forget exactly what the number was, but the percentage was extremely high. Just like GM calculated, most customers go less than 40 miles a day. Most of the customer testimonials had Volt's with several hundred miles on them, still with the original tank of gas. Needless to say, the Volt is very practical......ask an OWNER, not a magazine who bought one.

Consumer Reports is only read by people who have no idea what something simple like an axle is. Mechanics and "car guys" all over the US who read consumer reports usually end up in laughter. Consumer Reports is the pinnacle of incorrect.

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Gm man wrote:
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There was a survey not too long ago sent to Volt customers to see the satisfaction rate. I forget exactly what the number was, but the percentage was extremely high. Just like GM calculated, most customers go less than 40 miles a day. Most of the customer testimonials had Volt's with several hundred miles on them, still with the original tank of gas. Needless to say, the Volt is very practical......ask an OWNER, not a magazine who bought one.
Consumer Reports is only read by people who have no idea what something simple like an axle is. Mechanics and "car guys" all over the US who read consumer reports usually end up in laughter. Consumer Reports is the pinnacle of incorrect.
I have been very disappointed in Consumer Reports through the years. Much of their information is lopsided and messy. As for the Volt I have learned that it is very practical and the mileage is unbelievable. We are keeping track of it (coworker) drives 14 miles to and from work daily. The car is just at two months. Trips to the gas station? Zero!
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Gm man wrote:
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There was a survey not too long ago sent to Volt customers to see the satisfaction rate. I forget exactly what the number was, but the percentage was extremely high. Just like GM calculated, most customers go less than 40 miles a day. Most of the customer testimonials had Volt's with several hundred miles on them, still with the original tank of gas. Needless to say, the Volt is very practical......ask an OWNER, not a magazine who bought one.
Consumer Reports is only read by people who have no idea what something simple like an axle is. Mechanics and "car guys" all over the US who read consumer reports usually end up in laughter. Consumer Reports is the pinnacle of incorrect.
Oh, forgive me oh great one of infinate knowledge, however, GM has admitted to the demand for the volt being much less than thought, ergo, the plant is shut down for five weeks because of lack of demand. You talk about people who do not know something simple like an axle? Actually that axle on most cars is now called a half shaft due to the fact that there are two in a front wheel drive car and each goes into the transaxle case. For the record, when I was young I worked as a mechanic and have driven racecars for much of my life, both in SCCA where I have driven a D Production TR-4 and a H Production Austin Healey Sprite and when I turned 50 and retired I built and raced a first generation Mazda RX-7. Inbetween I raced a Ford at a local NASCAR short track for a long time racecar owner in the area.

Now, define a Car Guy and why you qualify as one, is it because you drive your "Moms" GM truck with the 176K miles on it? Is it because you could not spell Hyunadi or did not know the cost of a Volt as compaired to an Elantra? By the way, Gm man which would be more correct as GM man, what type of work do you do or are you, as I believe, still in the ninth grade? GM at one time meant General Motors, however, since they had to take the government welfare in order to survive have now been renamed "Government Motors".

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Oh, forgive me oh great one of infinate knowledge, however, GM has admitted to the demand for the volt being much less than thought, ergo, the plant is shut down for five weeks because of lack of demand. You talk about people who do not know something simple like an axle? Actually that axle on most cars is now called a half shaft due to the fact that there are two in a front wheel drive car and each goes into the transaxle case. For the record, when I was young I worked as a mechanic and have driven racecars for much of my life, both in SCCA where I have driven a D Production TR-4 and a H Production Austin Healey Sprite and when I turned 50 and retired I built and raced a first generation Mazda RX-7. Inbetween I raced a Ford at a local NASCAR short track for a long time racecar owner in the area.
Now, define a Car Guy and why you qualify as one, is it because you drive your "Moms" GM truck with the 176K miles on it? Is it because you could not spell Hyunadi or did not know the cost of a Volt as compaired to an Elantra? By the way, Gm man which would be more correct as GM man, what type of work do you do or are you, as I believe, still in the ninth grade? GM at one time meant General Motors, however, since they had to take the government welfare in order to survive have now been renamed "Government Motors".
Actually the axle on most vehicles is called an axle as most vehicles sold are actually trucks, SUV’s and CUV’s not front wheel drive cars. You sound rude.

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And from what I remember on a front wheel drive car doesn’t the CV joint hook into a CV axle? I think half shaft is just another name for the CV axle no?
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Voice of Reality wrote:
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Root, perhaps your reading skills are somewhat lacking, Consumer Report Magazine actually bought a Volt and tested it without bias in any way. This accomplishes a couple of things.(1) since they BOUGHT a Volt they became a real life owner.(2) since they do not take advertising they have no backs to scratch and no need to distort the truth.(3) consumer report is acknowledged as the Bible of facts for consumers.
As far as the other real life owners of the Volt, if you just paid between 43 and 48K for a car that was not all that was advertised, would you admit to have being taken for that amount of money?
Reminds me of the late 70s when we had the gas shortage and the big rage was a screen that you could purchase for a fairly large price that you would place under the carb and supposed that your fuel mileage would about double. I knew quite a few people who bought that Pig in a Poke and most of them would not admit to have being taken, however, I did notich that not one of them bought a second one for their other car.
Sorry but my reading abilities are just fine. I am taking the word of real owners over anything CR magazine says. I have found the human to be a much more reliable tool then magazines.
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<quoted text>I have been very disappointed in Consumer Reports through the years. Much of their information is lopsided and messy. As for the Volt I have learned that it is very practical and the mileage is unbelievable. We are keeping track of it (coworker) drives 14 miles to and from work daily. The car is just at two months. Trips to the gas station? Zero!
It's an amazing piece of machinery.
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<quoted text>Oh, forgive me oh great one of infinate knowledge, however, GM has admitted to the demand for the volt being much less than thought, ergo, the plant is shut down for five weeks because of lack of demand. You talk about people who do not know something simple like an axle? Actually that axle on most cars is now called a half shaft due to the fact that there are two in a front wheel drive car and each goes into the transaxle case. For the record, when I was young I worked as a mechanic and have driven racecars for much of my life, both in SCCA where I have driven a D Production TR-4 and a H Production Austin Healey Sprite and when I turned 50 and retired I built and raced a first generation Mazda RX-7. Inbetween I raced a Ford at a local NASCAR short track for a long time racecar owner in the area.

Now, define a Car Guy and why you qualify as one, is it because you drive your "Moms" GM truck with the 176K miles on it? Is it because you could not spell Hyunadi or did not know the cost of a Volt as compaired to an Elantra? By the way, Gm man which would be more correct as GM man, what type of work do you do or are you, as I believe, still in the ninth grade? GM at one time meant General Motors, however, since they had to take the government welfare in order to survive have now been renamed "Government Motors".
I will ignore your condescending tone, it really does one no good here.

Meanwhile, you seem to be vexed that Consumer Reports has little to no credibility. In other words, you started a little conversation of your own, in a petty attempt to question my knowledge of automobiles. Try again later, it makes me laugh.
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And from what I remember on a front wheel drive car doesnÂ’t the CV joint hook into a CV axle? I think half shaft is just another name for the CV axle no?
Yes. Regardless, it is still noted as an "axle," be it live rear, independent rear, or any normal drive configuration.
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And from what I remember on a front wheel drive car doesn’t the CV joint hook into a CV axle? I think half shaft is just another name for the CV axle no?
If you wish to get very technical about it, the Constant velocity axle fits into the transaxle and at the other end there is a constant velocity joint that is covered by a boot that often gets torn and results from early wear in the joint. This joint allows for the movement of the front suspension.
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Gm man wrote:
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It's an amazing piece of machinery.
Yes, it's an amazing machine. But no one is buying them. Too expensive.
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<quoted text>Yes, it's an amazing machine. But no one is buying them. Too expensive.
It is not selling in high volumes, but it is selling, and it's customers are very happy.

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