NHTSA Probes Saturn Timing Chain Failures

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The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has opened a preliminary investigation of Saturn L Series vehicles because of persistent complaints of timing chain failures.
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Joseph Thomas

Charlotte, NC

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Feb 9, 2006
 
I have a 2000 Saturn LS 75K miles with timing chain problems which caused the car to stop on the road. Saturn of Winston said this was not something they had heard of on these cars. And then wanted $400 to see what they could find. I brought the car home and found that the chain was very loose which caused the timing to jump out. There is a design error on these car and GM should repair their error.
miken

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Apr 11, 2006
 
M timing chain on m Saturn 2001 LS100 broke after 80000km. The Saturn of Mississauga and General Motors do not want to reimburse me for what I belive to be a faulty design in the area of timing chain lubrication. This should not happen at such kilometers and I am sure there are more occuring out there. At the Saturn delership here in Mississauga, Canada I was told at the delership just last Wednesday that in the early years of the L series GM had replace some motors at the said Budds Saturn dealership greater Toronto area where I bought this car only one year now.
J Alexander

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Apr 27, 2006
 
I just turned in my 2003 Saturn L200, which the timing chain broke at 38,000! Luckily it broke while starting it up, so it didn't destroy everything like I've heard from others. Saturn of Toledo paid for parts, I paid labor. This is crazy though and shouldn't happen. I hope for everyone that still owns on of these sorry cars, that they go through with a recall.
Randy Goforth

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Apr 28, 2006
 
Joseph Thomas wrote:
I have a 2000 Saturn LS 75K miles with timing chain problems which caused the car to stop on the road. Saturn of Winston said this was not something they had heard of on these cars. And then wanted $400 to see what they could find. I brought the car home and found that the chain was very loose which caused the timing to jump out. There is a design error on these car and GM should repair their error.
My 2001 Saturn LS timing chain broke (80,000 mi.) and RUINED the engine! Saturn said they weren't responsible for this problem, and they gave me a "discount" on a used motor from a wrecked saturn-$2400. I need to know if Saturn new about this problem, and are they standing behind their product. And they wonder why they can't compete with the foreign car companies. Randy
beachfun-SC

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Apr 29, 2006
 
well, its probably out of warranty. you dont think Gm cares do you ? they all get big fat pensions even if the place goes bust. good luck
looser lobster

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May 2, 2006
 
blah blah blah blah
Hal

Ladys Island, SC

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May 8, 2006
 
I have a Saturn and I really like it
Butterfly3288

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May 28, 2006
 
Wow...I'm glad (well not glad for us that have this problem) that I'm not the only one who is experiencing timing chain problems. I took in my 2000 LS1 yesterday to be checked. Unfortunately, I don't have warranty on the car anymore. Just to check the rattling (which they think is the timing chain) was $125. Then I had this sound in my steering wheel which I was charged $62.50. Five hours later, I'm told it will be $1,500.00 to fix the car and they don't know how much for the steering wheel because they didn't check that yet. I'm so upset because I don't have the money to fix the car and my husband doesn't have the money to help me. He had to ask his dad for a loan just to get my piece of junk fixed. If the cost of the repairs and labor go up to $2,000, I'm telling Saturn that they can keep my stupid car! I won't ever get a Saturn again.:(
Butterfly3288

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May 28, 2006
 
Forgot to add....my car is only at 53,000 miles when the timing chain went out.
tony7876

Chattanooga, TN

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May 30, 2006
 
Saturn? in my house that word is no longer used!
I had a 2000 saturn ls 100. I have replaced the tail lights (twice) and I had a new trans put in at 37,000. I replaced the windsheild wiper motor, door window switch, rear view mirror switch, the assembly for the key and housing, And the inst.cluster panel. I was told there were NO electrical problems???
JBing from Binghamton

Binghamton, NY

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Jun 5, 2006
 
My timing chain snapped at 74K 220+ miles from home. Saturn was very minimal in assisting me with the repair. They claimed that the failure occured becuase I wasn't "consistent" with my oil changes...ha ha ha. I always changed the oil every 3-6K miles (I was told by the Saturn Tech that every 3K was excessive). I also have a severe vibration at 70-75 mph that they can't isolate, I've put two (yes, 2) new axels and a new front suspension. In addition to all that, I'm on my 3rd set of tires in 2 years. I will never buy another one again...
Doug 2000

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Jun 13, 2006
 
I am consistant at having my 2000 LS Saturn serviced at our Saturn dealership. I have been told that my timing chain is the terrible noise that I am hearing at only 40 thousand miles. People having problems with their Saturns need to some how collectively report our concerns to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and/or other officails in order to demand a recall.
Harris Is At It Again

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Jun 15, 2006
 

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Well the Harris campaign has done it again. They staged a Democrat political rally disguised as a flag day ceremony. One of the most sacred days in this country's history is used and marred by the selfish desires of the Harris campaign to once again attempt to gain votes and favor in the community, only to be shown once again that the public is tired of their immoral games. This was a slap in the face to every veteran and service member in the United States and abroad. Harris claims to be a veteran and uses this as a political ploy for votes, yet he does something like this and pisses on the graves of true veterans and service members. The attendance was less than 20 and most of them were the Democratic candidates. Nice strategy, let's invite the public, offer free food and drink, disguise it as a patriotic gala and slip in some political begging for votes.
Once again the Harris campaign has showed its desperation and deceitfulness in order to gain political favor. Caldwell County will never vote in the last administration after what they did to this county and the sorry state that they and Harris left Caldwell County and Granite Falls in will ensure that Sheriff Clark will win by a landslide.
Stella

Bayboro, NC

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Jun 15, 2006
 
boob!
Harris Is A Disgrace

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The Harris futile few would like you believe that Terry is his own man and makes his own decision. The reality is Harris is lead around by his nose by those from the former administration that the public voted out. Harris doesn't want you to know that his core support group consists of the former administration gang that lied, cheated, stole and wife-swapped. The citizens of Caldwell County figured them out last time and voted them out, look how desperate they are to get back in, it should tell you something, they don't want you to vote for the best man (Clark), they want you to think that Sheriff Clark is subhuman. If that were true, the public would know that by now, but they start their lies during an election year....very typical of the Harris clan. The Harris crew have had failure after failure of fundraisers and gatherings, they have forced themselves on the public under the guise of civic and religious organizations. The disgraced the flag, our country and our veterans by disguising political rally as flag day. Look at the class these people have....NONE!!!!!
Sheriff Clark recognized what it was when he showed up and wanted no part of a political rally tossed upon the graves of our veterans and service members. Don't let Harris tell you he is a vet and fought in a war, real veterans don't use the service to their country for personal gain, but Harris does....that should tell you something. He is a loser, a low life and a person without morals and ethics.
Vote Clark for Sheriff, he doesn't disgrace our flag for personal gain.......He is tough on drug dealers and criminals while Harris is waving a flag from the coffin of dead veterans for votes.....You are a disgrace Terry Harris.
Vote Harris

Roxboro, NC

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Jun 19, 2006
 
Cars are too expensive for thing to tear up on them when they are new.
becky101505

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Jun 26, 2006
 
anyone have a timing chain break on a 2002 saturn vue?
The Real Terry Harris

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I know Terry Harris, I have worked with him and for him. Terry has his good points but he has a temper that can be very violent. I have seen Terry at Granite throw things, cuss and treat me and other employees like dirt. The old Hutch gang trying to portray him as an angel is funny. I know Sheriff Clark and he is a good man, he takes law enforcement seriously and cares about this community. While at Granite, Terry avoided his officers and the public, he was never around when we needed him and if you approached him with a problem, he would just shrug his shoulders and say, "what do you want me to do about it?" I could not imagine Terry as Sheriff. I have spoken to him and people supporting him and they are people that worked for Roger and they care about nothing but getting even with Gary for winning last time. They make me sick and everyone I know and see, I will tell them and tell them to tell everyone they meet to vote for Clark. The public won't be fooled by Terry and his band of little Hutchlings. Sheriff Clark is tough on drug dealers and criminals, and they all seem to have gotten in bed with Terry.
Timing chain survivor

Beaverton, OR

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Jul 9, 2006
 
Joseph Thomas wrote:
I have a 2000 Saturn LS 75K miles with timing chain problems which caused the car to stop on the road. Saturn of Winston said this was not something they had heard of on these cars. And then wanted $400 to see what they could find. I brought the car home and found that the chain was very loose which caused the timing to jump out. There is a design error on these car and GM should repair their error.
I have a 2002 LS. Recently, I was driving on the freeway, 20 miles from any home, business or town, when my car suddenly quit running. There were no warning indicators, the car had been operating normally...just quit. I had my car towed 120 miles. The Saturn of Gresham, Oregon dealership notified me that the timing chain had broke. When I spoke to the Saturn corporation, they denied knowing of the NHTSA's investigation and stated they had no other complaints. The dealership stated the same thing. When I showed the dealership's service manager the NHTSA's ongoing investigation, they stated "well, Saturn isn't going to do anything unless a recall is decided."
I saw a quote from Rick Wagoner, Jr.(General Motors CEO) which stated "We place a high value on communicating clear, consistent, and truthful information about our performance to our employees, suppliers, dealers, investors and customers."..... THEN WHY, MR. WAGONER, DID SATURN NOT NOTIFY ITS CUSTOMERS OF THIS POTENTIAL PROBLEM WHEN SATURN HAD RECEIVED THOUSANDS OF COMPLAINTS RE: TIMING CHAIN FAILURES??
STOP SATURN FROM PLACING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE'S LIVES IN DANGER.
timbrews

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Jul 9, 2006
 
Harris Is At It Again wrote:
Well the Harris campaign has done it again. They staged a Democrat political rally disguised as a flag day ceremony. One of the most sacred days in this country's history is used and marred by the selfish desires of the Harris campaign to once again attempt to gain votes and favor in the community, only to be shown once again that the public is tired of their immoral games. This was a slap in the face to every veteran and service member in the United States and abroad. Harris claims to be a veteran and uses this as a political ploy for votes, yet he does something like this and pisses on the graves of true veterans and service members. The attendance was less than 20 and most of them were the Democratic candidates. Nice strategy, let's invite the public, offer free food and drink, disguise it as a patriotic gala and slip in some political begging for votes.
Once again the Harris campaign has showed its desperation and deceitfulness in order to gain political favor. Caldwell County will never vote in the last administration after what they did to this county and the sorry state that they and Harris left Caldwell County and Granite Falls in will ensure that Sheriff Clark will win by a landslide.
And this has WHAT to do with Saturn timing chains?

Do us all a favor...start your own thread about this if you feel so strongly. People click on topics to read about that specific topic.

BTW...I have no idea who Harris is or what party he/she is affiliated with (so don't think that I'm dimetrically opposed to your view), just annoyed with people who use threads to hook people into their own seperate, unrealted topic/view.

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