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spare tire question

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“I can fix that”

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Alhambra, CA

ISP: Hamden, CT

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#22
Mar 22, 2009
 
Thank you everyone that posted! You saved me a lot of time and pain. In preparation for my move from Connecticut to California, I thought I would inspect my 2000 Caravan's spare tire. It wouldn't lower more than inch. Then I thought I'd Google my problem. The first hit was for this bulletin board. I read of all the travails, learned what the solution was, and 5 minutes later I had the captive tire freed. The best advice was to get on my back and use a flashlight to find the latch. A screwdriver helped free it and I was in business.
PJSaint

Annandale, MN

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#23
May 24, 2009
 
The only thing I would add is to wear protective goggles, not just glasses. There is a lot of dirt up there which falls down as you are right beneath the tire:)
DJR

Minneapolis, MN

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#24
Jun 7, 2009
 
Thanks PJE!! The info you provided was just what I needed!

A week ago my wife had a flat on our 2000 Chrysler van. I managed (just barely, but that's another story) to break the lug nuts loose. Then I discovered what everyone else reading this thread has ... the cable would drop but the spare tire would not come down.(The engineers who disigned that piece of crap should be condemned to use it for the rest of their lives!) I was fortunate enough to be able to re-inflate the flat and limp to a service station for a patch.

Then I went looking for information about getting the spare tire down. Your post was just what I needed.

I was able to release the catch easily once I got the spare's weight off it. I could not move it while the spare's weight was still on the catch.

I used the van's jack to hold the spare up, loosened the cable a couple inches, and was able to easily pry the prongs loose with a screw driver through the center of the spare.

Using the jack had the added benefit of keeping the spare from falling onto my face once I got the latch free!
PJE wrote:
... The nylon "stem" of the wheel holder has a collar that gets caught by a spring latch inside the square tube protruding downward. This is the tube which the cable comes out from. The latch itself is a stamped piece of metal with two "claws" that extend into the tube through the slots on its rear-facing side. That piece is attached to the tube by means of a flat spring, whose one end is riveted to the latch and the other one to the tube, some 3" upward. To operate the latch, there is a rod which pulls it away from the tube (the claws have tabs on their ends so they cannot come out completely). The other end of the rod is hooked to a looped flat spring. The spring is shaped like a hose clamp with two long straight "ears", and the round portion is pressed onto the bottom end of the winch's main shaft. So, as you begin to unwind the cable, the clamp/spring should turn together with the shaft and pull on the rod, thus releasing the latch. And this must happen before the weight of the wheel transfers to the latch throgh the plastic holder (which would occur if the latch fails to move on the first few turns of the shaft). Apparently, when the latch claws get stuck in their slots due to dirt or rust, the shaft just slips inside the spring. It could be a fail-safe feature to prevent the parts from breaking, but it also easily prevents the latch from releasing ... If you can hold the wheel close to the floor pan, there's enough room to reach the latch with a finger, through the center hole of the wheel. If it's too difficult to hold the wheel up, you can insert a long screwdriver through one of the holes in the wheel and unhook the latch with it. It still helps to at least partially support the wheel so its full weight is not resting on the latch.
Ivan Rocha
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#25
Jun 9, 2009
 
I just got the same problem, spent almost 2 hours trying and no luck . Had to remove the flat tire and fix it.
Mark

Enfield, CT

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#26
Jun 16, 2009
 
Frank Bartlett wrote:
I have owned a 2000 Dodge Caravan and now a 2003. Both had the spare tire problem. The cable will come down but the tire will not. There is a safety mechanism that will not release because of rust. Where I live the rust would be created after about two weeks from the new car lot. Bad design Dodge! Shame on you engineers for being so stupid!! Something so simple as a spare tire change is made complicated with the flawed design. I wonder how many people have been stranded on the road cursing the jerk who thought of that design. I eliminated the mechanism by cutting it out. There is so much friction when the tire is in the up position that it will never come down by itself. I have had no issue after that. You should send out a memo to all dodge dealers to ask their clients who own these vans to check the spare tire release. I checked my 2003 before I needed the spare. good thing I did. It would have never come down. without a flashlight one would never even be able to see what is holding it up. Once again I must stress the point that this design sucks!!!!!!!
Frankie, you are the man. I agree 100%!
David Robinson

London, Canada

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#27
Jul 16, 2009
 
Same problem here with 2002 Grand Caravan. I don't think anyone at Chrysler has ever hard of corrosion. Fortunately I was at home in daylight when the flat occurred but I just spent 2 hours under the van trying to get that catch to release. Finally got out the sawsall and cut the cable. I am a retired Automotive Design Engineer so I am quite familiar with salt spray and durability testing. Here in Southwester Ontario where theses minivans are made you would have thought they would do a salt spray test on componenets exposed to the elements. I called the local dealer, $208 dollars for a new piece of crap pully system just like the last one. Just one more reason to add to my list of why I will be replacing this Grand Caravan, with only 84,000 km. on it with a Hyundi or Honda. I have had more things go oon this van that should last a lifetime.
J-Thomas

Roxboro, NC

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#28
Oct 26, 2009
 
1997 Grand Caravan
Was in the process of installing a tailer hitch and
needed to drop the spare to get more working room.
Same story and I banged and kicked at the thing for several minutes and finally got on the web and
found this (and a hundred other forums with the same stories). I still love my Caravan ( and learned how to fix my own transmission problems ha ha...just replace the control solenoid). But the spare tire is absurd. Class action time!
Tell me when this thread is updated!
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