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THE MAN wrote: <quoted text>
most people DON'T have a CLUE do they. No, the people bashing union workers know nothing about working in factories and how hard the work actually is. Many of the people bashing union workers wouldn't even make it through one day on the job!! When auto companies hire new employees the majority of the new workers don't last through a month.(Yeah, the work must be that easy that so many quit.)
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tbird19482 wrote: <quoted text> MR. UNAMERICAN AUTO CO.JUST take some time and GO to the J.D.Powers web site and you will get an education on who is the real Quality auto . and who has the really good advertizing co. its there and maybe if you would take time you would find out that most U.S,Based Co.'s out do THE #2 selling co in the world [ toyota ]in Quality and only CHRYSLER has any cars on the top ten J.D.Powers recall list/ and as for the service notices Toyota has 20 for the camery for 2007 / 16 for2008/ " BEST BUILT AUTO IN THE WOURLD " I don't even have to look this stuff up on the computer I can drive up behind A honda / toyota / you name it [ and AM cars too ] have worked in a stamping plant for over 38 years can tell what GOOD FIT and TRIM are and in the last 2 years toyota /honda / ECT, are in the same mind set the AM> CO's were in the 70's and if you would take time and look you would see the doors don't fit / the trunk lid is off [ out bourd dents ' you don't get them from other people's doors there from dirt on the die that made the part ] start looking and you will see the diff. in the Qual' and IF YOU CAN'T see it you are blind and then all you have to do is run your hand over the 1/4 panel and down the seams and you WILL feel the differance/ DON't think so ? next time you pull up behind a car start LOOKING and pay att. and you will start to see AND then maybe you will see that the A.M. CARS are as good as all the rest. And if you need a lesson on how to tell fit and trim let me KNOW I will be happy to show you how a trunk lid should fit, it should not be 1/4 inch at the top and 1/2 inch at the bottom [ at laest around west. New York, the toyotas are so out of wack I can not beleive people can't see how bad there put together.] All I am saying is LOOK and you WILL see the differance UNION or non union they all can screw up and put out junk they all do face it / all I am asking you union bashers to do is look at the AMERICAN cars [ FORD ? G.M.] and DRIVE them and once you do [ look at the fit and trim ] you will be amazed as I have said look at the J.D.POWERS list ONLY Chrysler had any AM. Name s on that list ] the AM> cars were on the top ten list for the BEST buys look it up it's there, IF you can take some of your time and give the American worker HIS chance to prove that we can build a car that is as GOOD as any you will see we are as good as any / thank you for your time . I appreciate your comments about American made cars!They are not inferior in workmanship as many people would like to believe. My husband and I have noticed many flaws when driving behind a Toyota or a Honda vehicle. We have noticed huge gaps where some parts come together and things that aren't straight. Americans that support these foreign vehicles have been brainwashed from the media to believe that Asian vehicles are made better. Toyota has had many recalls with their vehicles the last few years but that isn't front page news,many times we don't hear about it for some odd reason (perhaps, someone is being paid off) to bash American auto companies. Americans do produce excellent vehicles..........at least, buying American the money stays here in this country and supports our economy!!
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becky wrote: <quoted text>
EXACTLY!
We did try to buy an American car, once, and all we had was trouble with the dumb thing. We work hard for our money, and it is irresponsible to buy an inferior car (which gets worse gas millage, as well). My husband and I worked hard and took out loans to go to college so we could find higher paying, meaningful jobs. I'm tired of the "union" mentality: buy American, even if it'll probably break down on you, costs more, and isn't very energy efficient. Becky/ and chip when was the last time you opened YOUR eyes and looked at an american car ? it's been a few years , ANY one that has [ as I have said looked at the fit and trim of toyota or honda would have to say they have got the mind set that the amreican car co's had back in the 70's WE ARE THE BEST AND WE CAN PUT OUT SH-- and we have the AMERICAN people beleiving we make the BEST CAR in the world.] The AMERICAN auto maker { G.M. FORD/ Chrysler ] MAKE a car as GOOD if NOT BETTER than toyota or honda LOOK at the amount of recalls and as I said LEARN somthing about FIT and TRIM and open your eyes and look at that toyota that is in front of you when you stop at a red light or stop sign , or when you walk in a shoping market's parking lot , look for the gaps in the door fit / trunk fit and the OUT BOARD DENTS / yes the dents that come OUT of the fender [ not in from other cars but the ones that where there from the press] that made the parts SO BECKY open your eyes and you will see that AMERICAN MADE IS AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER THAT any other.{ and the AMERICAN people who do make parts and put together the american cars pay state and fed . taxes and into F.I.C.A. and that helps all of us [ the AMERICAN WORKER AND TAX PAYER ] pay less taxes. THE more AMERICANS we keep working the less we all have to pay in taxes/ and maybe it should be time JAPAN starts paying for their DEFENCE and not the AMERICAN { U.S>] people then maybe we would have more of a level playing field[ yes we the people of the U.S. pay for JAPANS DEFENCE and have for over 60 YEARS,] AS I said JUST OPEN YOUR EYES and YOU will see that the fit and trim of the OLD BIG 3 IS as good if not better than anyones.
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Cowherder wrote: <quoted text>
No, the people bashing union workers know nothing about working in factories and how hard the work actually is. Many of the people bashing union workers wouldn't even make it through one day on the job!!
When auto companies hire new employees the majority of the new workers don't last through a month.(Yeah, the work must be that easy that so many quit.) The way I see it, from experience is these people don't WANT to do that kind of work...for whatever reason they personally have. If someone doesn't want to do that type of work, that's fine. Don't go around smashing on people that are willing to do that type of work and want to get the best out of they can. To reiterate a story from my past. One of the shop workers where I worked bid on an office job. That job paid less and I asked him why did you bid on a job that pays that much less. His reply was he was sick of getting dirty day in and day out; Was sick of the pains of physical labors, the muscle soreness, cuts, scrapes etc. It wasn't two years later he was among many other office employees whining about how they were getting paid less than the shop because without what they did the shop wouldn't have the work to do. It just goes to show we live in a society that believes if one is doing physical labor, they are less than those who work in the office. Plus there are those who just can't fathom why if they are making so little it shouldn't be that someone else is making more if they aren't among the "office material" employees. Ask any physician if working physical labor jobs in a factory is a (overall) healthy way to make a living. They just might be surprised what they hear from well educated doctors.
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Cowherder wrote: <quoted text>I appreciate your comments about American made cars!They are not inferior in workmanship as many people would like to believe.
My husband and I have noticed many flaws when
driving behind a Toyota or a Honda vehicle. We have noticed huge gaps where some parts come together and things that aren't straight.
Americans that support these foreign vehicles have been brainwashed from the media to believe that Asian vehicles are made better. Toyota has had many recalls with their vehicles the last few years but that isn't front page news,many times we don't hear about it for some odd reason (perhaps, someone is being paid off) to bash American auto companies. Americans do produce excellent vehicles..........at least, buying American the money stays here in this country and supports our economy!! AS I have said befor , IF only some of these AMERICAN { G.M./ FORD/ CHRYSLER/] Auto BASHERS would open their eyes they would see that TOYOTA ? HONDA? KIA ECT. have the mind set that the BIG 3 had in the 70's " we got them and we can put out sh--' and they will buy it no matter what. as I said JUST look at that toyota in front of you and see how the fit and trim are or as you walk past one in the parking lot stop and look you will see {if you look] that the AMERICAN CARS are as GOOD if not BETTER that toyota/ honda / kia ect ALL WE ASK IS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO OPEN THEIR EYES and see what they THINK IS QUALITY AND WHAT IS QUALITY.
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There was time (1930's) when Unions were needed...
Now some 80 years later, the Unions along with NAFTA and other entities are just ruining this country. U.S. autos suck, in perfomrance, desing and comfort, although I own and drive 2 Fords and a Chevy...they arent the best built, but I buy them to support the U.S. economy NOT the autoworker...hell, I sell and service what I represent, and ensure to my customers (through my vendors) that they are afforded a variety, not some crap that is a 'one fits all' package...
Does Anyone here know why Nissan North America is so successful (They even booked out of CA to relocate the HQ to Nashville, TN) and have some of the best products out there...I always consider a Nissan, or a Volvo, or some other foriegn car, but I ALWAYS end up supporting the U.S. economy directly, but buying a Nissan would also support the U.S. economy ...its made in Tennessee!
You guys and gals make WAY to much $$$$ per hour for what you do, I have seen it in numerous facilities, with things so automated, its not like yo are lifting windshields or hoods or doors and bolting them, its all assisted with hydraulics and robotics...
You should ALL be thankful at AmAx that you are getting $18 instead of $28....times are what they are, and you need to adjust, like everyone else has.
Support the economy locally, cut back as best you can and make something of quality that you can be proud of...I always see auto workers walking in grumpy and walking out grumpy form the plant...whts with that, you have a job! There are literally 100's of thousands in Michigan that DONT, the majority came form the auto industry...
Be Careful for what you wish for...It might Come True!
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This forum is so cyclical, its amazing some of you diehards are hanging onto the subject and the comments are only repeating themselves... If the Union operates like this forum, i know why things are the way they are
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North Park wrote: This forum is so cyclical, its amazing some of you diehards are hanging onto the subject and the comments are only repeating themselves... If the Union operates like this forum, i know why things are the way they are No more so than the union busters/those who believe in oligarchies. Every war consists of separate battles that are more or less repeats of the ones past, present and future.
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Seenitbefore wrote: <quoted text>
No more so than the union busters/those who believe in oligarchies.
Every war consists of separate battles that are more or less repeats of the ones past, present and future. I Guess non union and union bashing people like GRRArea, North park, Chip, and becky don't under stand that for their sake and ours the unions can never STOP fighting we have to keep rehashing things becouse if we don't the BIG co's will walk all over the AM.worker. WE have to stay on watch while they can fall asleep , so that the BIG CO'S don't pay off people like KING G.W oh forgive me pres. BUSH and half the congress and get O.S.H.A./ the min. wage and other things that UNIONS FOUGHT FOR , FOR the AMERICAN WORKER/ repealed, and if you think for 1 min. they are not trying to get rid of these laws I would say its time to get your head out of your ---. AND YES ALOT OF YOU WILL SAY UNIONS HAVE OUT LIVED THEIR TIME WELL if you will WAKE up and look around you you will see they are NEEDED MORE NOW than they have been in over 50 years. WE all need to stand together and keep the AMERICAN worker earning a living wage / not put ALL of us in poverity.
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tbird19482 wrote: <quoted text> I Guess non union and union bashing people like GRRArea, North park, Chip, and becky don't under stand that for their sake and ours the unions can never STOP fighting we have to keep rehashing things becouse if we don't the BIG co's will walk all over the AM.worker. WE have to stay on watch while they can fall asleep , so that the BIG CO'S don't pay off people like KING G.W oh forgive me pres. BUSH and half the congress and get O.S.H.A./ the min. wage and other things that UNIONS FOUGHT FOR , FOR the AMERICAN WORKER/ repealed, and if you think for 1 min. they are not trying to get rid of these laws I would say its time to get your head out of your ---. AND YES ALOT OF YOU WILL SAY UNIONS HAVE OUT LIVED THEIR TIME WELL if you will WAKE up and look around you you will see they are NEEDED MORE NOW than they have been in over 50 years. WE all need to stand together and keep the AMERICAN worker earning a living wage / not put ALL of us in poverity. I dont know if I agree with you, the market is more global than ever. And I dont think you'll find too many people willings to suck pride and wait in a bread line to "make a stand". Like I said before tbird. i'd take that kinda pay anyday. I've busted my hump more than you can really imagine. I've had many many jobs, but nothing lasts..theres no one source of blame, theres many factors that go into this situation. Dierct costs (which most likely include union salaries), officer salary. I had a wonderful idea about agreeing to a percentage of sales salary based on one year projections, if revenues or net income exceed thos projections, then everyone gets a nice bonus based on ownership, time spent and seniority..
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Steelie wrote: Good Day,
O.K.- now this explains a lot! It sounds like that although many of these individuals will be taking a pay cut, GM is "buying" that paycut. So in otherwords... they may in their checks be getting a paycut, but due to GM buying the paycut from the workers they really are not losing much in the short to mid or even long term depending on how old they are and or close to retirement. Now this is making a whole lot more sense to me as to why the cut was taken.
AAM hf - Welcome to a global economy. At one point in time it was the U.S. that was "stealing" jobs from Europe as we were the ones who could do it better, faster, and cheaper. Now - it is countries like China, India and others who are taking this position. However, even these countries are seeing job losses to other nations! No really - it's true! China has on a more recent basis begun to lose jobs to countries like Viet Nam, the Phillipines and Thailand where they can make the products for even less than they can in China! And what happens as these burgeoning economies can no longer make products for as little as they can now? Where will the "manufacturing train" make its next stop? Africa. No - really, mark my words... Africa will become the next "cheap labor market" after wages in countries in the Far East rise to a level where it would be more profitable to manufacture elsewhere... and Africa is the logical next location. In fact - if one pays close enough attention to international and or foriegn business they can see the writing on the wall. And unfortunately it is not American companies that are really involved yet. The Chinese manufacturerers in particular have been making "exploratory" trips to African nations, for several years now, to look for possible manufacturing locations. It may very well start in a nation like South Africa and then move North along the coastal cities of Africa. Trust me... I lived and worked in S.E. Asia for nearly 7 years.(Singapore, Hong Kong, Tokyo) I was very fortunate to have done business in other countries such as China, the Phillipines, Indonesia, Malaysia Thailand and one or two little things in New Zealand. I have personally witnessed the migration of factories from China to other nations who can do it for less. So please trust that I know what I am talking about... hehe.
Steelie Good enough Steelie. Now please inform us of the living standard(s) of those workers in those countries. Do they compare favorably with ours in their own countries?
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tbird19482 wrote: <quoted text> I Guess non union and union bashing people like GRRArea, North park, Chip, and becky don't under stand that for their sake and ours the unions can never STOP fighting we have to keep rehashing things becouse if we don't the BIG co's will walk all over the AM.worker. WE have to stay on watch while they can fall asleep , so that the BIG CO'S don't pay off people like KING G.W oh forgive me pres. BUSH and half the congress and get O.S.H.A./ the min. wage and other things that UNIONS FOUGHT FOR , FOR the AMERICAN WORKER/ repealed, and if you think for 1 min. they are not trying to get rid of these laws I would say its time to get your head out of your ---. AND YES ALOT OF YOU WILL SAY UNIONS HAVE OUT LIVED THEIR TIME WELL if you will WAKE up and look around you you will see they are NEEDED MORE NOW than they have been in over 50 years. WE all need to stand together and keep the AMERICAN worker earning a living wage / not put ALL of us in poverity. Sorry I didn't know 18+ an hour was poverty, or maybe you just feel you have some sence of entitlement to be able to live a great lifestyle despite the lack of effort on your part to better yourself. Get a life and understand that nobody owes you anything and you have the ability to make you lifestyle better, if you don't put any effort into doing this nobody feels sorry for you.
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Seenitbefore wrote: <quoted text>
Good enough Steelie. Now please inform us of the living standard(s) of those workers in those countries. Do they compare favorably with ours in their own countries? You missed the whole point of what he said, they are in a process of economic growth, their standard of living is increasing and will someday be as good as in the U.S. Our standard of living will not increase until we take the next step. First we were farmers, then the industrial revolution because it was more profitable to do manufacturing and the standard of livin increased, now we are moving away from manufacturing into more profitable industries such as services, technological innovations, medical innovations, high skilled trades, etc. which will increase our standard of living. Will this be a difficult process for some, yes it will, but the quicker we accept this reality the quicker we can adjust and make it less painfull. People keep talking about being afraid of China, that is exactly why we need to move our economy to the next step, so we can remain ahead of them and use their growing economy to boost demand for our products, giving us more money to create more innovative products and increase high skilled, high paying domestic jobs, which we will not be able to do if we keep supporting high wages for unskilled workers and get our *ss kicked in the global marketplace.
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Chip wrote: <quoted text>
You missed the whole point of what he said, they are in a process of economic growth, their standard of living is increasing and will someday be as good as in the U.S. Our standard of living will not increase until we take the next step. First we were farmers, then the industrial revolution because it was more profitable to do manufacturing and the standard of livin increased, now we are moving away from manufacturing into more profitable industries such as services, technological innovations, medical innovations, high skilled trades, etc. which will increase our standard of living. Will this be a difficult process for some, yes it will, but the quicker we accept this reality the quicker we can adjust and make it less painfull. People keep talking about being afraid of China, that is exactly why we need to move our economy to the next step, so we can remain ahead of them and use their growing economy to boost demand for our products, giving us more money to create more innovative products and increase high skilled, high paying domestic jobs, which we will not be able to do if we keep supporting high wages for unskilled workers and get our *ss kicked in the global marketplace. I did not miss his whole point. Steelie and I have been talking about this LONG before this forum and long before you came here. Steelie and I have been at this long enough that we have come to the point of getting into the finer details instead of the usual generalities. What you can't seem to get by is we are going to get it kicked in the global market place as long as we are going to play their game and their game only. You want us to lower our standards to their level so we can compete. Anyone with any sense is going to know in order to be the superior player they must do it better than the next guy. Not be as good as. And lowering our standard of living to match them just so business can make more profits is a recipe for disaster. You have no compunction about sacrificing (other) peoples lives and quality of life. I do. If you're so gung ho then step to the first in line to have your life style sacrificed.
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One more thing. Leaders NEVER ask for the sacrifice of others before and/or instead of from themselves. They NEVER ask those who are barely making it to sacrifice half of what they have while (the "leader") sacrifices NOTHING of what they have. You haven't "earned" anything you have any more than those who don't have as much.
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Seenitbefore wrote: <quoted text>
I did not miss his whole point. Steelie and I have been talking about this LONG before this forum and long before you came here.
Steelie and I have been at this long enough that we have come to the point of getting into the finer details instead of the usual generalities.
What you can't seem to get by is we are going to get it kicked in the global market place as long as we are going to play their game and their game only. You want us to lower our standards to their level so we can compete. Anyone with any sense is going to know in order to be the superior player they must do it better than the next guy. Not be as good as. And lowering our standard of living to match them just so business can make more profits is a recipe for disaster.
You have no compunction about sacrificing (other) peoples lives and quality of life. I do. If you're so gung ho then step to the first in line to have your life style sacrificed. I never said to decrease our standard of living, I said that the high paying non-skilled jobs are done, get over it. If those in the non-skilled jobs went and got a skilled job it would increase the standard of living for everyone. I agree with you that the compensation of a FEW CEO's is out of control, but you are using the compensation of a few hundred people out of the 300 million people in the United States to justify compensation for the entire population, and that is just stupid. I agree that a great leader will not demand more out of someone else then they demand out of themself, the problem is you don't seem to comprehend how hard executives work, or how many hours they work. The fact that you don't even understand what they do means you don't have any comprehension of how difficult their job is.
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Chip wrote: <quoted text>
Sorry I didn't know 18+ an hour was poverty, or maybe you just feel you have some sence of entitlement to be able to live a great lifestyle despite the lack of effort on your part to better yourself. Get a life and understand that nobody owes you anything and you have the ability to make you lifestyle better, if you don't put any effort into doing this nobody feels sorry for you. EARTH TO CHIP For somebody that says he has an education can [or] will you go back and tell me where I ever said $18 + an hour was poverty? I went back as far as I can on this blog and I can't find it, so please show me where it is . I have only said that I think [ and from working in an auto plant ] that the auto worker earns every cent they get , some people do not agree but alot of them have NEVER worked in an auto plant and no IDEA about what they are talking about, and I think you are in that group.[ AND YES a bunch of you are going to yell what about the REPAIR person who sits on his butt all day , WELL as long as he sits there the CO. is making money and when they are up and working that means that line is down and NO parts are being made . SO as a stock holder I want that repair person to sit on his butt 40 hrs. aweek for all 52 weeks / that means I am making $$$$$$$, becouse parts are being made and the things that the CO. sell are being made and can be sold. AND WE all earn what we get I never said anybody was "ENTITLED " to anything so IF you would please NOT make UP things and come on here and tell the world that somone said somthing they didn't IT would be nice. OH for INFO I am retired and I invested very well and I have and education , I am of mind that I have more Collage CR's than you ,[ more than enough for a masters ][ not all in the same field] BUSS> MANG,/ BUSS LAW/ DRUG ABUSEcounc./ ALC abuse counc./ Elect, ENG.] and at FULL Collages not COMM> COLLAGE OR TRADE SCHOOLS SO again befor you open your mouth you should make sure of what you speek.
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Chip wrote: <quoted text>
I never said to decrease our standard of living, I said that the high paying non-skilled jobs are done, get over it. If those in the non-skilled jobs went and got a skilled job it would increase the standard of living for everyone. I agree with you that the compensation of a FEW CEO's is out of control, but you are using the compensation of a few hundred people out of the 300 million people in the United States to justify compensation for the entire population, and that is just stupid. I agree that a great leader will not demand more out of someone else then they demand out of themself, the problem is you don't seem to comprehend how hard executives work, or how many hours they work. The fact that you don't even understand what they do means you don't have any comprehension of how difficult their job is. CHIP you just said " The fact you don't even understand what they do means you don't have any comprehension of how difficult their job is " WHAT is it you have been running your mouth off about for the last few weeks on how over paid auto workers are ? well maybe you should take your own advice and keep your mouth shut till you KNOW what an auto worker does [ as I said along time ago walk a mile in our shoes befor you open your mouth,]
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Chip wrote: <quoted text>
I never said to decrease our standard of living, I said that the high paying non-skilled jobs are done, get over it. If those in the non-skilled jobs went and got a skilled job it would increase the standard of living for everyone. I agree with you that the compensation of a FEW CEO's is out of control, but you are using the compensation of a few hundred people out of the 300 million people in the United States to justify compensation for the entire population, and that is just stupid. I agree that a great leader will not demand more out of someone else then they demand out of themself, the problem is you don't seem to comprehend how hard executives work, or how many hours they work. The fact that you don't even understand what they do means you don't have any comprehension of how difficult their job is. I understand better than you will ever know about how "hard" CEOs work. Long hours does not (necessarily) equate into work. 12 hours in a factory is WORK. And I can guarantee there are more than just a few hundred out there that could be trained to be a CEO just as easily as there are so many that can be taught a factory job. And you really need to get over your bigotry. You are so flippant about this made up "prevailing wage" maybe we aught to start setting a "prevailing wage and benefit level" for top management positions. If I was making $2Million per year, far below the "prevailing wage" of a CEO, and I couldn't afford to pay for my own health care and set aside for my own retirement without the company having to pay for it I would have no business running a corporation because I couldn't even handle my own finances, much less a large corporation's. I'm thinking you need to spend less of your time telling others they don't comprehend because all you know is what comes out of a book and start comprehending what real life should consist of.
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tbird19482 wrote: <quoted text>EARTH TO CHIP For somebody that says he has an education can [or] will you go back and tell me where I ever said $18 + an hour was poverty? I went back as far as I can on this blog and I can't find it, so please show me where it is . I have only said that I think [ and from working in an auto plant ] that the auto worker earns every cent they get , some people do not agree but alot of them have NEVER worked in an auto plant and no IDEA about what they are talking about, and I think you are in that group.[ AND YES a bunch of you are going to yell what about the REPAIR person who sits on his butt all day , WELL as long as he sits there the CO. is making money and when they are up and working that means that line is down and NO parts are being made . SO as a stock holder I want that repair person to sit on his butt 40 hrs. aweek for all 52 weeks / that means I am making $$$$$$$, becouse parts are being made and the things that the CO. sell are being made and can be sold. AND WE all earn what we get I never said anybody was "ENTITLED " to anything so IF you would please NOT make UP things and come on here and tell the world that somone said somthing they didn't IT would be nice. OH for INFO I am retired and I invested very well and I have and education , I am of mind that I have more Collage CR's than you ,[ more than enough for a masters ][ not all in the same field] BUSS> MANG,/ BUSS LAW/ DRUG ABUSEcounc./ ALC abuse counc./ Elect, ENG.] and at FULL Collages not COMM> COLLAGE OR TRADE SCHOOLS SO again befor you open your mouth you should make sure of what you speek. You are making a post on a topic where the workers just agreed to 18, I would assume that you were considering that poverty when you said forcing people to work poverty wages, because you didn’t specify anything else. Interesting, I have a master’s degree, so I doubt you have more education then me. If you do have so much education why didn’t you take any English classes, or did you not learn anything from them either. I understand when typing you make some mistakes, but did you pay any attention to your writing skills while you were rambling on about how educated you are? Not sure where the whole repair person came from, but if it was my business they would be working on something else when they were not doing repair work. I suppose it is the whole union mentality of this is my job and I only do this and nothing else no matter what, if there is nothing for me to do I will sit around and do nothing else because I am only qualified to work on that machine and not qualified to sweep the floor or do clean up or anything else.
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