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jerry
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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philly guy wrote: Sad, but true. Main reason our Big Three our in the situations they're in is because they have to pay for retirement, benefits and so on, Toyota doesn't because their workers are not even unionzied at all.... Toyota pays for retirement benefits for there work force,they just do not have as many retirees as the Big 3.Enjoy the rest of you day!! S T U P I D!
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philly guy
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jerry wrote: <quoted text>Toyota pays for retirement benefits for there work force,they just do not have as many retirees as the Big 3.Enjoy the rest of you day!! S T U P I D! Really? Would you care to show a link to prove that? Better yet, did you even bother to take a look at the link I posted? So, enjoy yourself, and have a nice day Jerry/Mike/ Whatever other names you are using to conceal yourself.
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jerry
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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philly guy wrote: <quoted text> Really? Would you care to show a link to prove that? Better yet, did you even bother to take a look at the link I posted? So, enjoy yourself, and have a nice day Jerry/Mike/ Whatever other names you are using to conceal yourself. Yep! google toyota pensions.It has nothing to do with unions.
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philly guy
Edison, NJ
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jerry wrote: <quoted text>Yep! google toyota pensions.It has nothing to do with unions. I told you to post a link. Not just tell me to google "Toyota pensions". Anybody can do that. In any event, the soul point of my post was to demonstrate that Toyota does NOT have unions, as I had in my link. The fact is, Toyota had successfully kept the unions out. No, they have not laid off any employees, but, their temps have been. By the way, Toyota has not mentioned that when they are boasting about have no lay offs. Here is some proof: "Do you know how many hourly jobs GM has laid off from 2006 to July 2008? Take a guess. How about 34,000? And now, they’re talking about another 5,500 layoffs. And now they’re asking you and your government for a bailout to end their troubled, outdated, low quality, wasteful production system. But, let’s not focus on fixing GM’s problems with an infusion of cash. There’s something even deeper going on here that’s really wrong. OK, here’s a better question. How many hourly jobs has Toyota’s American production system laid off in the same time frame? Zero. That’s right. ZERO. How? Isn’t Toyota experiencing the same slow down in auto sales as GM is? Yes, it is. And yes, Toyota has halted production at its Texas and Indiana plants for the past 3 months. But the 4,500 people who work at those plants have not been laid off. What!?!?! How? Why? The answer: Toyota has a special culture, deep-rooted values, and respect for their workforce. Toyota’s tradition is to NOT lay off employees during hard times. This tradition hasn’t really been put to the test until now. And Toyota has stuck to its guns and its values. “This was the first chance we’ve really had to live out our values,” says Latondra Newton, general manager of Toyota’s Team Member Development Center in Erlanger, Ky.“We’re not just keeping people on the payroll because we’re nice. At the end of all this, our hope is that we’ll end up with a more skilled North American workforce.”
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The Economist
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I follow the automotive segment and I am a huge GM supporter, but the fact remains that Toyota is just a stronger automotive company at the current moment, and has been for several years. GM's brands are near worthless (it can't sell Hummer, Saturn, or Saab) and it's current debt cannot be offloaded. Toyota on the other hand doesn't have "dead" brands and still holds a decent market capitalizaton due to the share price remaining above $60. GM will rebound when a debt-equity swap is forced and it can shutter the dead brands with some relief from state franchise laws.
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mike
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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philly guy wrote: <quoted text> I told you to post a link. Not just tell me to google "Toyota pensions". Anybody can do that. In any event, the soul point of my post was to demonstrate that Toyota does NOT have unions, as I had in my link. The fact is, Toyota had successfully kept the unions out. No, they have not laid off any employees, but, their temps have been. By the way, Toyota has not mentioned that when they are boasting about have no lay offs. Here is some proof: "Do you know how many hourly jobs GM has laid off from 2006 to July 2008? Take a guess. How about 34,000? And now, they’re talking about another 5,500 layoffs. And now they’re asking you and your government for a bailout to end their troubled, outdated, low quality, wasteful production system. But, let’s not focus on fixing GM’s problems with an infusion of cash. There’s something even deeper going on here that’s really wrong. OK, here’s a better question. How many hourly jobs has Toyota’s American production system laid off in the same time frame? Zero. That’s right. ZERO. How? Isn’t Toyota experiencing the same slow down in auto sales as GM is? Yes, it is. And yes, Toyota has halted production at its Texas and Indiana plants for the past 3 months. But the 4,500 people who work at those plants have not been laid off. What!?!?! How? Why? The answer: Toyota has a special culture, deep-rooted values, and respect for their workforce. Toyota’s tradition is to NOT lay off employees during hard times. This tradition hasn’t really been put to the test until now. And Toyota has stuck to its guns and its values. “This was the first chance we’ve really had to live out our values,” says Latondra Newton, general manager of Toyota’s Team Member Development Center in Erlanger, Ky.“We’re not just keeping people on the payroll because we’re nice. At the end of all this, our hope is that we’ll end up with a more skilled North American workforce.” Ya!Lets see how much of this is true in three more months,Toyota Boy! PS There are lies you tell in the statement you made!
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jerry
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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philly guy wrote: <quoted text> I told you to post a link. Not just tell me to google "Toyota pensions". Anybody can do that. In any event, the soul point of my post was to demonstrate that Toyota does NOT have unions, as I had in my link. The fact is, Toyota had successfully kept the unions out. No, they have not laid off any employees, but, their temps have been. By the way, Toyota has not mentioned that when they are boasting about have no lay offs. Here is some proof: "Do you know how many hourly jobs GM has laid off from 2006 to July 2008? Take a guess. How about 34,000? And now, they’re talking about another 5,500 layoffs. And now they’re asking you and your government for a bailout to end their troubled, outdated, low quality, wasteful production system. But, let’s not focus on fixing GM’s problems with an infusion of cash. There’s something even deeper going on here that’s really wrong. OK, here’s a better question. How many hourly jobs has Toyota’s American production system laid off in the same time frame? Zero. That’s right. ZERO. How? Isn’t Toyota experiencing the same slow down in auto sales as GM is? Yes, it is. And yes, Toyota has halted production at its Texas and Indiana plants for the past 3 months. But the 4,500 people who work at those plants have not been laid off. What!?!?! How? Why? The answer: Toyota has a special culture, deep-rooted values, and respect for their workforce. Toyota’s tradition is to NOT lay off employees during hard times. This tradition hasn’t really been put to the test until now. And Toyota has stuck to its guns and its values. “This was the first chance we’ve really had to live out our values,” says Latondra Newton, general manager of Toyota’s Team Member Development Center in Erlanger, Ky.“We’re not just keeping people on the payroll because we’re nice. At the end of all this, our hope is that we’ll end up with a more skilled North American workforce.” You sound like you are brain washed by the Japanese parasites!!I think the funny line is "Toyota has respect for there workforce"LOL!! Question: Is it hard for you to support another country (Japan)or was it easy to step on the "Red White and Blue"?
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philly guy
Edison, NJ
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mike wrote: <quoted text>Ya!Lets see how much of this is true in three more months,Toyota Boy! PS There are lies you tell in the statement you made! Lie huh? Where? If you were smart enough, you would point it out and attempt to correct me rather than being so vague about it. You have shown me no proof from your side of the arguement other than telling me to google Toyota pensions-which any old moron can do. I'll also have you know that I own a GM vehicle too. Well, good evening to you and yours Mike ummm....Jerry...eh, whatever.
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philly guy
Edison, NJ
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jerry wrote: <quoted text>You sound like you are brain washed by the Japanese parasites!!I think the funny line is "Toyota has respect for there workforce"LOL!! Question: Is it hard for you to support another country (Japan)or was it easy to step on the "Red White and Blue"? Well, once again you have shown me how stupid you are. If you noticed, the article I copied was in QUOTES! The General Manager of Toyota's Team Member development said that Toyota respects its employees. NOT ME. What a joke! You are now telling me that you support the Red, white and blue and that Toyota having respect for its employees is a joke when just a few posts ago you said: QUOTE: "Toyota pays for retirement benefits for there work force." Sounds like YOU'RE the one who was brainwashed. What are you going to come up with next you hypocrite?
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mike
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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philly guy wrote: <quoted text> I told you to post a link. Not just tell me to google "Toyota pensions". Anybody can do that. In any event, the soul point of my post was to demonstrate that Toyota does NOT have unions, as I had in my link. The fact is, Toyota had successfully kept the unions out. No, they have not laid off any employees, but, their temps have been. By the way, Toyota has not mentioned that when they are boasting about have no lay offs. Here is some proof: "Do you know how many hourly jobs GM has laid off from 2006 to July 2008? Take a guess. How about 34,000? And now, they’re talking about another 5,500 layoffs. And now they’re asking you and your government for a bailout to end their troubled, outdated, low quality, wasteful production system. But, let’s not focus on fixing GM’s problems with an infusion of cash. There’s something even deeper going on here that’s really wrong. OK, here’s a better question. How many hourly jobs has Toyota’s American production system laid off in the same time frame? Zero. That’s right. ZERO. How? Isn’t Toyota experiencing the same slow down in auto sales as GM is? Yes, it is. And yes, Toyota has halted production at its Texas and Indiana plants for the past 3 months. But the 4,500 people who work at those plants have not been laid off. What!?!?! How? Why? The answer: Toyota has a special culture, deep-rooted values, and respect for their workforce. Toyota’s tradition is to NOT lay off employees during hard times. This tradition hasn’t really been put to the test until now. And Toyota has stuck to its guns and its values. “This was the first chance we’ve really had to live out our values,” says Latondra Newton, general manager of Toyota’s Team Member Development Center in Erlanger, Ky.“We’re not just keeping people on the payroll because we’re nice. At the end of all this, our hope is that we’ll end up with a more skilled North American workforce.” 34000 was through attrition!!! Im not going to waste more time with you!
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Tom
Windsor, Canada
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philly guy wrote: <quoted text> I told you to post a link. Not just tell me to google "Toyota pensions". Anybody can do that. In any event, the soul point of my post was to demonstrate that Toyota does NOT have unions, as I had in my link. The fact is, Toyota had successfully kept the unions out. No, they have not laid off any employees, but, their temps have been. By the way, Toyota has not mentioned that when they are boasting about have no lay offs. Here is some proof: "Do you know how many hourly jobs GM has laid off from 2006 to July 2008? Take a guess. How about 34,000? And now, they’re talking about another 5,500 layoffs. And now they’re asking you and your government for a bailout to end their troubled, outdated, low quality, wasteful production system. But, let’s not focus on fixing GM’s problems with an infusion of cash. There’s something even deeper going on here that’s really wrong. OK, here’s a better question. How many hourly jobs has Toyota’s American production system laid off in the same time frame? Zero. That’s right. ZERO. How? Isn’t Toyota experiencing the same slow down in auto sales as GM is? Yes, it is. And yes, Toyota has halted production at its Texas and Indiana plants for the past 3 months. But the 4,500 people who work at those plants have not been laid off. What!?!?! How? Why? The answer: Toyota has a special culture, deep-rooted values, and respect for their workforce. Toyota’s tradition is to NOT lay off employees during hard times. This tradition hasn’t really been put to the test until now. And Toyota has stuck to its guns and its values. “This was the first chance we’ve really had to live out our values,” says Latondra Newton, general manager of Toyota’s Team Member Development Center in Erlanger, Ky.“We’re not just keeping people on the payroll because we’re nice. At the end of all this, our hope is that we’ll end up with a more skilled North American workforce.” Wow! This is the same post, almost word for word, that Let Them Fail posted about a month back. Philly guy, eh? Hmmmmmm....
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Longhair
Holt, MI
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philly guy wrote: <quoted text> I told you to post a link. Not just tell me to google "Toyota pensions". Anybody can do that. In any event, the soul point of my post was to demonstrate that Toyota does NOT have unions, as I had in my link. The fact is, Toyota had successfully kept the unions out. No, they have not laid off any employees, but, their temps have been. By the way, Toyota has not mentioned that when they are boasting about have no lay offs. Here is some proof: "Do you know how many hourly jobs GM has laid off from 2006 to July 2008? Take a guess. How about 34,000? And now, they’re talking about another 5,500 layoffs. And now they’re asking you and your government for a bailout to end their troubled, outdated, low quality, wasteful production system. But, let’s not focus on fixing GM’s problems with an infusion of cash. There’s something even deeper going on here that’s really wrong. OK, here’s a better question. How many hourly jobs has Toyota’s American production system laid off in the same time frame? Zero. That’s right. ZERO. How? Isn’t Toyota experiencing the same slow down in auto sales as GM is? Yes, it is. And yes, Toyota has halted production at its Texas and Indiana plants for the past 3 months. But the 4,500 people who work at those plants have not been laid off. What!?!?! How? Why? The answer: Toyota has a special culture, deep-rooted values, and respect for their workforce. Toyota’s tradition is to NOT lay off employees during hard times. This tradition hasn’t really been put to the test until now. And Toyota has stuck to its guns and its values. “This was the first chance we’ve really had to live out our values,” says Latondra Newton, general manager of Toyota’s Team Member Development Center in Erlanger, Ky.“We’re not just keeping people on the payroll because we’re nice. At the end of all this, our hope is that we’ll end up with a more skilled North American workforce.” Wow, sounds like toyota is doing what equals what the Big Three got the most critsim for. Keeping thier employees on the pay roll when no work is available is the same damn thing as a "jobs bank" Toyota does it and they are praised The big three do it and its bad business......The big three cant win in some peoples eyes no matter what they do!
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Root
Shreveport, LA
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philly guy wrote: <quoted text> I told you to post a link. Not just tell me to google "Toyota pensions". Anybody can do that. In any event, the soul point of my post was to demonstrate that Toyota does NOT have unions, as I had in my link. The fact is, Toyota had successfully kept the unions out. No, they have not laid off any employees, but, their temps have been. By the way, Toyota has not mentioned that when they are boasting about have no lay offs. Here is some proof: "Do you know how many hourly jobs GM has laid off from 2006 to July 2008? Take a guess. How about 34,000? And now, they’re talking about another 5,500 layoffs. And now they’re asking you and your government for a bailout to end their troubled, outdated, low quality, wasteful production system. But, let’s not focus on fixing GM’s problems with an infusion of cash. There’s something even deeper going on here that’s really wrong. OK, here’s a better question. How many hourly jobs has Toyota’s American production system laid off in the same time frame? Zero. That’s right. ZERO. How? Isn’t Toyota experiencing the same slow down in auto sales as GM is? Yes, it is. And yes, Toyota has halted production at its Texas and Indiana plants for the past 3 months. But the 4,500 people who work at those plants have not been laid off. What!?!?! How? Why? The answer: Toyota has a special culture, deep-rooted values, and respect for their workforce. Toyota’s tradition is to NOT lay off employees during hard times. This tradition hasn’t really been put to the test until now. And Toyota has stuck to its guns and its values. “This was the first chance we’ve really had to live out our values,” says Latondra Newton, general manager of Toyota’s Team Member Development Center in Erlanger, Ky.“We’re not just keeping people on the payroll because we’re nice. At the end of all this, our hope is that we’ll end up with a more skilled North American workforce.” That quote you pasted is utter nonsense.
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Browns Fan
Canton, OH
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This whole discussion is nonsense, Toyota is one level below prime rating, they have a long way to go before junk status. Doesn't really matter I guess, they all will be getting free money from governments who don't care about credit worthiness.
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Root
Shreveport, LA
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We are talking about the turds they dropped all over the market.
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Monster mullet
Santa Barbara, CA
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As "bad" as Toyota is, it's still 100 times better than anything the little 3 have to offer. So, what does that say about the little 3? March 31, 2009 will be a defining moment for your prized domestic junk. The little 3 will officially become irelevant. Toyota/ Lexus will remain strong and will continue to dominate EVERY segment. Again, you fellas are just bitter, mullet sporting, propaganda fed, domestic lovers. The facts are the facts. Toyota lost $4 billion, Ford lost $15 billion and GM lost $30 billion- of my money I might add. Toyota at least is losing it's own money. (EVERY CARMAKER IS LOSING MONEY)The fact that Toyota lost money should be no surpise. After all it is the largest automaker in the entire planet. So- By summer time dust will settle and Toyota will be the one that walks away with a fist full of gm, ford and chrysler's bleeding hearts as Toyota will ripp it out of their chest. With any luck Toyota will take a bite and stomp on their still beating hearts. But, they won't. they will remain the gentlemen they are and express sympathy for the little 3's failure and continue to create amazing products. oh what a story line... stay tuned fellas.
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jerry
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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Monster mullet wrote: As "bad" as Toyota is, it's still 100 times better than anything the little 3 have to offer. So, what does that say about the little 3? March 31, 2009 will be a defining moment for your prized domestic junk. The little 3 will officially become irelevant. Toyota/ Lexus will remain strong and will continue to dominate EVERY segment. Again, you fellas are just bitter, mullet sporting, propaganda fed, domestic lovers. The facts are the facts. Toyota lost $4 billion, Ford lost $15 billion and GM lost $30 billion- of my money I might add. Toyota at least is losing it's own money. (EVERY CARMAKER IS LOSING MONEY)The fact that Toyota lost money should be no surpise. After all it is the largest automaker in the entire planet. So- By summer time dust will settle and Toyota will be the one that walks away with a fist full of gm, ford and chrysler's bleeding hearts as Toyota will ripp it out of their chest. With any luck Toyota will take a bite and stomp on their still beating hearts. But, they won't. they will remain the gentlemen they are and express sympathy for the little 3's failure and continue to create amazing products. oh what a story line... stay tuned fellas. GM lost 30 billion of youre money?That statment makes the rest of you're statement not credible.
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jerry
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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Monster mullet wrote: As "bad" as Toyota is, it's still 100 times better than anything the little 3 have to offer. So, what does that say about the little 3? March 31, 2009 will be a defining moment for your prized domestic junk. The little 3 will officially become irelevant. Toyota/ Lexus will remain strong and will continue to dominate EVERY segment. Again, you fellas are just bitter, mullet sporting, propaganda fed, domestic lovers. The facts are the facts. Toyota lost $4 billion, Ford lost $15 billion and GM lost $30 billion- of my money I might add. Toyota at least is losing it's own money. (EVERY CARMAKER IS LOSING MONEY)The fact that Toyota lost money should be no surpise. After all it is the largest automaker in the entire planet. So- By summer time dust will settle and Toyota will be the one that walks away with a fist full of gm, ford and chrysler's bleeding hearts as Toyota will ripp it out of their chest. With any luck Toyota will take a bite and stomp on their still beating hearts. But, they won't. they will remain the gentlemen they are and express sympathy for the little 3's failure and continue to create amazing products. oh what a story line... stay tuned fellas. Oh Bull Shit!!Toyota is close to bankruptcy.Toyota has only 18 billion in cash,they will be begging for a bailout from Japan very soon!Toyota is in Big trouble,the Japanes people wont even buy the crap they build,only Stupid Americans will.
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Root
Shreveport, LA
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Monster mullet wrote: As "bad" as Toyota is, it's still 100 times better than anything the little 3 have to offer. So, what does that say about the little 3? March 31, 2009 will be a defining moment for your prized domestic junk. The little 3 will officially become irelevant. Toyota/ Lexus will remain strong and will continue to dominate EVERY segment. Again, you fellas are just bitter, mullet sporting, propaganda fed, domestic lovers. The facts are the facts. Toyota lost $4 billion, Ford lost $15 billion and GM lost $30 billion- of my money I might add. Toyota at least is losing it's own money. (EVERY CARMAKER IS LOSING MONEY)The fact that Toyota lost money should be no surpise. After all it is the largest automaker in the entire planet. So- By summer time dust will settle and Toyota will be the one that walks away with a fist full of gm, ford and chrysler's bleeding hearts as Toyota will ripp it out of their chest. With any luck Toyota will take a bite and stomp on their still beating hearts. But, they won't. they will remain the gentlemen they are and express sympathy for the little 3's failure and continue to create amazing products. oh what a story line... stay tuned fellas. You have some definite problems with hate, and not to mention you lack the intelligence or information to factually comment about automobile manufacturers. Sad-
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Root
Shreveport, LA
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jerry wrote: <quoted text>Oh Bull Shit!!Toyota is close to bankruptcy.Toyota has only 18 billion in cash,they will be begging for a bailout from Japan very soon!Toyota is in Big trouble,the Japanes people wont even buy the crap they build,only Stupid Americans will. Very true, in fact toilet already accepted aid from their government, ever hear of the hybrid? At any rate, they screwed themselves by dropping all these turds on the market.
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