American cars are the BEST!!!

American cars are far superior to all others, many aspects of cars are opinionated, but american cars still win. Japanese cars are some of the ugliest things i ahve ever seen, the motors sound like an angry wasp, the top ends dont come with much, but they have nondescript styling, which apparently attracts people. I dont see why, I prefer cars that stand out and turn heads. Japanese cars also have great reliability, and decently equipped for low prices. German cars are bland, overpriced, heavy, usually underpowered, and have few gadgets for the price. However, they are luxorious, sound good, not as good as american, but still good. and look better than japanese cars.

thetruthbringer wrote:

American cars are far superior to all others, many aspects of cars are opinionated, but american cars still win. Japanese cars are some of the ugliest things i ahve ever seen, the motors sound like an angry wasp, the top ends dont come with much, but they have nondescript styling, which apparently attracts people. I dont see why, I prefer cars that stand out and turn heads. Japanese cars also have great reliability, and decently equipped for low prices. German cars are bland, overpriced, heavy, usually underpowered, and have few gadgets for the price. However, they are luxorious, sound good, not as good as american, but still good. and look better than japanese cars.

the truthbringer, right?

I would suggest that you find a bomb shelter before th egentleman from Canada known as con_tiki assult you with a shock and awua Jap campaign.

American cars offer the best value for money in most aspects, however, Japanese cars are not bad at all and are actually the best in some aspects. My view is that US cars are superior when to it comes to the mix of attributes that consist of power, quality, durability, functionality, style and price. Japanese are superior when you change the mix of attributes to:"perceived quality ", resale value, "perceived fuel efficiency ", security (feeling you cannot go wrong by buying a certain brand or model also known as the herd motivation ), understanding what consumers want and re-package existing models ( re-badge) to meet these expectations, and price. Japanese have few advantages over US cars: less health care cost and less applicable federal regulation and restriction to their brands, two important factors that help Japanese brands cut the cost of building cars and thereby offer them at a lower price or better equipped for the same price.

European brands are stylish and offer very high quality in fit and finish, however, the overall built quality is low and are overpriced, you are right.

What is my choice: US cars always without regret. I tried Japanese and British cars in the past with great dissatisfaction.

However, what will be the scene in 5-10 years? look at Boeing and Intel and you will know.

I drove North America {domestics] vehicles for over 40 years and had my share of repair problems with them, always something braking down on them.

I now drive Hondas [2 of them in our family] and found that Honda and Toyota [friends have] have greater reliable vehicles. I wish the domestics had preformed as well as Honda has and I could have save`a lot of money.

My wife's 2001 Honda Civic replaced front brakes that is all[all town driving]since buying it.

My 2003 Honda Accord replaced front brakes [all town driving] only since buying it new as well.

Nothing else has ever go wrong with these great vehicles.

These are the reasons why the Japanese vehicles are selling so well. You can blame in on anything you want but that is the real reason for North American domestics selling so poorly and why the public have more trust in the Japanese vehicles.

The North America vehicles can't hold up to the Japanese vehicles in reliability and if they could then they wouldn't be in the mess they are in.

Something else to remember is once you go to Honda or Toyota you never come back to the domestics again, but then again why would you want to!!

Well with a simple statement like that Con-Tiki, I drive a 2003 Yukon XL and a 2004 Chrysler Pacifica and have had No problems with them yet.

2003 Yukon, brakes are still good and only problems Iv'e had is my sons basketball hoop falling on the hood.

2004 Pacifica, not a problem yet.

So if that is your basis for quality, I believe your very bias, and are blinded even when Toyota just recalled half a million vehicles for a steering problem.

The big 3 are closing the gap in quality year over year, as shown by numbers in the harbour reports.
It's just that Honda,Toyota, try thier hardest to keep quality problems hush hush, as highlighted by Toyota's recent recall.But there is only so much you can hide when you have lawsuits against you for blaming the drivers of the vehicles for negligence. But when push came to shove, Toyota had to admit the problem was in thier hands and it was a issue. Thats not the kind of dealer I wanna deal with. Someone looking to place blame somewhere else when they had verifiable evidence to show this was a growing concern. But try and pass it off to the little guy.

I know a friend who owns a peeling paint Pacifica and don't think much about them it at all and says no more Pacifica for him as it hasn't preform all that well for him.

He also vows that it is the last domestic he will own again!!So there you go, not all are not happy with the domestics and I can tell of many more stories like that.

You got to go a long way to beat Honda and Toyota for reliability and the domestics don't cut it!!

You keep buying domestics to keep the repair shops busy, they will like you for it!!

You talk lawsuits then discuss this lawsuit with GM:

GM knew of the problem and did nothing about it now it's a clas action lawsuit.

GM Manifold Gasket - National Class Action

April 2006 -- The class action law firm Merchant Law Group has launched class actions against General Motors concerning an alleged defect in intake manifold gaskets placed in many GM vehicles between 1995 and 2003.

These lawsuits claim that the subject manifolds prematurely degrade, which can result in coolant leaks that may cause extensive damage to a vehicle's engine.

All Canadian owners of the following vehicles are eligible to join this class action, regardless of whether have experienced problems to date:

2000-2003 Buick Century

1995-1998/2000-2003 Buick LeSabre

1995-1998/2000-2003 Buick Park Avenue

1996-1999/2000-2003 Buick Regal

2002 Buick Rendezvous

1995-1997 Buick Riviera

2000-2003 Chevrolet Impala

1996/1998-2001 Chevrolet Lumina

1998-2003 Chevrolet Malibu

1998-2003 Chevrolet Monte Carlo

1997-2003 Chevrolet Venture

1999-2003 Oldsmobile Alero

1999 Oldsmobile Cutlass

1995-1998 Oldsmobile Eighty Eight

1998 Oldsmobile Intrigue

1995-1998 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight

1996-2003 Oldsmobile Silhouette

2001 -2003 Pontiac Aztec

1995-1998/2000-2003 Pontiac Bonneville

1999-2003 Pontiac Grand Am

1997-1998/2000-2003 Pontiac Grand Prix

1999-2003 Pontiac Montana

1996-1999 Pontiac Trans Sport

Owners of other GM vehicles, who have experienced similar problems related to the intake gasket manifold, may also be eligible to participate in this class action and may complete the form below.

If you own (or have owned one) of these vehicles, you may be eligible to join this class action, and there is no cost to join this class action

And you say American cars are the best I don't think so!! Good for the repair shops that all!!

You are so biased to american cars that you completely avoided the remark of Toyota's recall. You jumped right on the domestic bashing once again. Then you go and say I said "american cars are the best"..hmmm your taking that from someone else's post.

Hmmm and if your frined bought a Pacifica for performance, I suggest he look into a different category, as far as I know a Pacifica doesn't fall into the performance category, it's a crossover and not meant for performance. But then again he should of bought one of Toyota's performance cars.
Because there was something that picked his interest in the pacifica to buy it, and not the toyota..or honda..maybe because the auto's they build lack style, and personality?

The post says American cars are best:

These vehicles sure were not the best that for sure.

GM Manifold Gasket - National Class Action

2000-2003 Buick Century

1995-1998/2000-2003 Buick LeSabre

1995-1998/2000-2003 Buick Park Avenue

1996-1999/2000-2003 Buick Regal

2002 Buick Rendezvous

1995-1997 Buick Riviera

2000-2003 Chevrolet Impala

1996/1998-2001 Chevrolet Lumina

1998-2003 Chevrolet Malibu

1998-2003 Chevrolet Monte Carlo

1997-2003 Chevrolet Venture

1999-2003 Oldsmobile Alero

1999 Oldsmobile Cutlass

1995-1998 Oldsmobile Eighty Eight

1998 Oldsmobile Intrigue

1995-1998 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight

1996-2003 Oldsmobile Silhouette

2001 -2003 Pontiac Aztec

1995-1998/2000-2003 Pontiac Bonneville

1999-2003 Pontiac Grand Am

1997-1998/2000-2003 Pontiac Grand Prix

1999-2003 Pontiac Montana

1996-1999 Pontiac Trans Sport

Owners of other GM vehicles, who have experienced similar problems related to the intake gasket manifold, may also be eligible to participate in this class action and may complete the form below.

You see American cars are far from being the best and are very poor as you can see!!

This does not make me bias at all, only the truth here.

What's bad about GM? The cars
By Robert Kuttner | The Boston Globe

TOYOTA RECENTLY projected that it would surpass General Motors in 2007 as the world's top-selling automaker. GM lost $10.6 billion in 2005 -- about what Toyota earned in profits. Toyota's outstanding shares of stock are now valued at 10 times those of GM

What's the matter with GM? Herewith, a first hand testament.

On Christmas, my family needed to rent a car. Rentals were scarce, and the car turned out to be a Pontiac G6. With cars like this, it's a miracle that GM has hung in so long.
Thanks to slushy steering, the car meanders all over the road. By the time we reached my son's house, only 45 minutes from the rental agency, two passengers were carsick. This wandering might have been peculiar to the vehicle -- unbalanced tires or loose linkage -- or my driving. But as a veteran car renter, I'm all too familiar with GM's quirky steering.
Among several other design lapses: a clunky shift-lever whose settings are unlit in the dark, pull-up door locks located in hard-to-reach places, the absence of exterior key locks on doors other than the driver's. This last omission would be less annoying if the master lock on the driver's door unlocked the other doors (as it does on comparable imports). But GM does not include that feature.
So, picture me, parking in front of my son's house for Christmas dinner, trying to extricate my 93-year-old mother from the back seat. I gallantly go around to her side of the car to open the door, but it's locked. There is no outside door-lock to release it. I climb back into the driver's seat, and reach across my mother to the far rear of the back seat, to pull up the badly located lock. A truly intimate mother-son Christmas moment.
Who makes these bonehead design decisions? You might say I rented a cheap car, and I shouldn't expect fancy features. But the G6 is actually a mid sized, mid priced car, with a base price of $17,825, intended to compete with the Camry. Dream on.
Maybe it's unfair to blame a whole company for one crummy model. But the problems with Pontiac's G6 are emblematic. This was the car launched with a stunt hailed as one of the greatest product-placement coups ever. In September 2004, GM paid Oprah Winfrey an estimated $8 million to give all 276 souls in her studio audience a new G6. For several raving minutes, Oprah endorsed the product. You can imagine the high-fives among GM executives.
But the product had to deliver on the marketing, and the G6 didn't. How like GM.
GM has had three decades to respond to higher gas prices with fuel-efficient cars, and to meet the Japanese challenge with better products. Instead, GM keeps putting marketing and imagery over engineering.
GM skimps on the mass-market cars that once made it number one, and bets on high-profit items with limited markets, such as the Cadillac, Hummer, the Corvette -- a strategy guaranteed to turn GM from world's largest auto maker into a niche producer.

Increasingly, Japanese cars are being assembled in the USA, and the quality holds up just fine.
So what's wrong with GM? The cars. GM is famous for being run by bean counters and ad men. Toyota is run by engineers.

For complete story here is the link:
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_op...

I thought that GM was making a better vehicles these days but as you see it is same old story with poor quality product, hoping the public will buy. This is why the public have lost their trust in GM to hold up for the long run.

see www.theautochannel.com
www.theautochannel.com/F/news/2007/01/30/0353...

GM Sets Sales Record of Over 1 Million Vehicles in Latin America, Africa & Middle East Region in 2006
www.theautochannel.com

U.S. auto sales set to begin 2007 on weak note

By Kevin Krolicki

DETROIT, Jan 31 (Reuters)- U.S. auto sales are set to slide in January, extending a downturn that began late last year and raising questions about whether the Detroit-based car makers have cut production deeply enough, analysts said on Wednesday.

The monthly sales numbers are also expected to highlight a reversal of fortune, with Japan's Toyota Motor Corp.(7203.T: Quote, NEWS , Research) claiming the No. 2 spot in the U.S. market, a position some analysts expect it to hold for the year.

Automakers will release final sales results for the month on Thursday, but both industry sales leader General Motors Corp.(GM.N: Quote, Profile , Research) and Ford Motor Co.(F.N: Quote, Profile , Research) have warned in recent days that their results would come in weaker than a year earlier as they retrench on bulk sales to car rental agencies.

Ford, which is racing to cut jobs and shut plants, said on Wednesday its January sales would be down by about 20 percent, reflecting a 40-percent drop in "fleet" sales to car rental companies, government agencies and private companies.

GM, which is working through its own restructuring, said this month it would cut its sales to car rental agencies by 35,000 units in January and warned its overall sales for the month would be pulled down as a result.

Both automakers are betting they can bring down
Both automakers are betting they can bring down costs by cutting capacity, allowing them to step away from cut-rate fleet sales of less popular vehicles that they had relied on to sustain production in past years.

But some analysts question whether GM and Ford have set production targets low enough, given the signs of weakness for the new car market that emerged in the final quarter of 2006.

Continued... Full Story here

Link:http://today.reuters.com/ news/articleinvesting.aspx?vie w=CN&storyID=2007-01-31T21 2556Z_01_N31176810_RTRIDST_0_A UTOS-SALES.XML&rpc=66& type=qcna

well I would say that american cars defenetley rock ,I know from an experience.as you see here in Palau alot of people(own) drive japanese cars and it doesn't take a year and the car has to much problem that either we sell it or spent so much paying for the repairshop.

I hear on the news that the UAW union wants trade agreements to allow the domestics into the Asian marketplace, now that Chrysler has lost so much in sales along with Ford and GM.

I have also hear the the Asian are not interested in having the domestics in their marketplace because they lack new technolgy and reliability.

This was on the news last night.

Japanese cars are being assembled in the USA and Canada, and the quality holds up just fine yet the domestics assembled here in both countries have problems. WHY is that?

Is it the quality of parts used or is the union workers themselves or a combination of all of these things that create these problems with the domestics?

I think that American cars are best, IF they are built in US Toyota or Honda plants. The Big 3 are in the trouble they are in today, because they let their customers down. People are abandoning GM in droves because they did not get their moneys worth from the cars they bought from them. I, for one will never buy anothe Big 3 car. Not only were the cars bad, the arrogance from the dealers and zone representatives I encountered TRYING to get things made right was too annoying and frustrating to put myself through again.

Con-tiki (and those like you) are a big part of the American auto sales woes. With japanese cars, no matter where they are made are not good for America. A bit of competition is good, but the support for the downfall of America is appalling from an American. The japanese do not talk as you do about their bruised images, and American cars hold a tight line to quality seen from other manufacturers. Jobs shift from white collar to blue in Japanese plants. The trade deficit is over a billion a week. japanese gain in market share should be disturbing to you, as we have a lot to lose from an econommic stance and loss of IP. The Soviet Union went down, and so can we. A lot of effort was given so we can live in a country like America, and I would like to support our efforts to keep America strong. You get a thrill at the downfall of America, and I do not understand your alignment with a country that will not be there for you when we have no more money. They do not want you, just your money.
I have to ask if you are an American, or do you just live here? Do your homework and find the American car that offers you the reliability that you require. You just have to look ... and smile as it lowers your blood pressure.

1st post wrote:

Con-tiki (and those like you) are a big part of the American auto sales woes. With japanese cars, no matter where they are made are not good for America. A bit of competition is good, but the support for the downfall of America is appalling from an American. The japanese do not talk as you do about their bruised images, and American cars hold a tight line to quality seen from other manufacturers. Jobs shift from white collar to blue in Japanese plants. The trade deficit is over a billion a week. japanese gain in market share should be disturbing to you, as we have a lot to lose from an econommic stance and loss of IP. The Soviet Union went down, and so can we. A lot of effort was given so we can live in a country like America, and I would like to support our efforts to keep America strong. You get a thrill at the downfall of America, and I do not understand your alignment with a country that will not be there for you when we have no more money. They do not want you, just your money.
I have to ask if you are an American, or do you just live here? Do your homework and find the American car that offers you the reliability that you require. You just have to look ... and smile as it lowers your blood pressure.

Where is your head at, Toyota and Honda are pouring millions of dollars into the North Amercian economy and putting a lot of people to work and are building quality vehicles as well.

The domestic is not giving the reliability that we require and want, if they were then they wouldn't be in the trouble that they are in. If you want to blame someone, blame the domestic car industry for a shoddy product.

The domestics have totally let us down with poor quality and reliability in their product which sent us looking for better vehicles from Honda and Toyota. Honda and Toyota have giving us that satifaction in their fine vehicles.

This has nothing to do with whether you are a good Canadian or Amercian so leave the GUILT TRIP at home because it is misplaced here.

American cars are best when they have a catastrophic break down WAY before they should, and are scrapped and recycycled into something more useful and durable.

Sorry dudes their is no if ands or buts about it domestic cars are baaaaddddd. I've been in car sales for 5 years and can say without even much as a thought that the domestics are getting what they deserve. They took the market place forgranted and now it's kicking their buts. I can honestly say on avg that american cars have half the life span of Honda or Toyota. As well they cost alot more money to even get that far. 1 in 2 caravans I see have a transmission replaced within 10 years or 150,000km's most fords head gasket. It's hard ignore the fact, look in your local star at consumer reports, lemonade guide, consumer guide ect... Back in the 70's gm and ford said bring on the japanesse. To bad they never saw this one coming. Guess they should have spent more time on cars like tempos, cavaliers, taures, intrepid, well just about all their cars from the 80's and 90's. I would love to support the local economy but I'm not going to risk my lower saftey rated domestic car wich will cost me more money in the long run anyway you put it. Oh ya a 2004 anything should hold up great you guys should talk about the 1980's Civics I see with over 500,000km's and the only repaire ever done was the maintaince intervals it went through, and well you don't see domestic cars from the 80's. unless they have rebulit engines or transmissions. Well nuff said buy the best value. No better buy in north america than a Honda Civic. point and case number one selling car in Canada 9 years in a row