U.S. airline industry failing consumers, panel contends

Apr 24, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: ScrippsNews

The American airline industry is failing shareholders, employees and passengers, while regional hubs such as Memphis and Cincinnati are being starved of service and priced out of competition, a panel of experts said Tuesday.

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not a fine wine

New Haven, VT

#1 Apr 25, 2012
Very interesting article. Deregulation has failed. And it took a think tank to figure this out. Where was the think tank when they came up with this stupid plan.
Flexjet Pilot

United States

#2 Apr 25, 2012
That's why the rich a leaving and signing up with Flexjet, FLight Options, and Netjets to fly them around in private business jets.

Let the trailer trash ride around on the airlines.

Our business is booming!
Jessica Vega

Irving, TX

#3 Apr 25, 2012
Flexjet Pilot wrote:
That's why the rich a leaving and signing up with Flexjet, FLight Options, and Netjets
You forgot to mention that your customers can avoid the TSA too by using private flying. Only the poor get felt up and patted down :(
Angry Blackman

Denver, CO

#4 Apr 26, 2012
You white honkies, riding around in those fancy pancy private jets. Leaving us poor black folks, scrubbing your floors, loading your bags and left with the scraps.
not a fine wine

Hinesburg, VT

#5 Apr 26, 2012
Angry Blackman wrote:
You white honkies, riding around in those fancy pancy private jets. Leaving us poor black folks, scrubbing your floors, loading your bags and left with the scraps.
You are much better off not flying. The only thing fancy about these private jets is the paint job and Winnebago style seating. The maintenance is mostly contracted out, and ain't no better.
airlines

Albuquerque, NM

#6 Apr 26, 2012
ahhhh yes, where else can you pay thousands for an overpriced ticket on an airline jammed into their aircraft like cattle, enduring food you wouldn't feed a starving somalian and cranky, rude ticket agents, gate agents and stuck up flight crew who think they are doing you a favor flying your asz to the destination you paid too much money for. yes, the flying privelege ... oh and don't forget the gubbmints nazi goons herding you through their gauntlet with free irradiation and feelups.
not a fine wine

Hinesburg, VT

#7 Apr 26, 2012
airlines wrote:
ahhhh yes, where else can you pay thousands for an overpriced ticket on an airline jammed into their aircraft like cattle, enduring food you wouldn't feed a starving somalian and cranky, rude ticket agents, gate agents and stuck up flight crew who think they are doing you a favor flying your asz to the destination you paid too much money for. yes, the flying privelege ... oh and don't forget the gubbmints nazi goons herding you through their gauntlet with free irradiation and feelups.
You can thank the airlines for this TSA stuff. Before 9/11 the airlines were responsible for the gate area security. If they were not cutting cost there too, the use of airplanes might not have looked so easy. Deregulation didn't work. Somethings need to be regulated. Hey lets deregulated the interstate highway system. Remove all speed limits. Let the Greyhounds lose.
Old Timer in Aviation

AOL

#8 Apr 29, 2012
Dont forget the Scab varments who have skunked their way into the Aircraft maintaince area of the airlines.
Jessica Vega

Irving, TX

#9 Apr 29, 2012
not a fine wine wrote:
<quoted text>You can thank the airlines for this TSA stuff. Before 9/11 the airlines were responsible for the gate area security. If they were not cutting cost there too, the use of airplanes might not have looked so easy.
The private screening of 9/11 wasn't any less effective than what you have today. What did the terrorists slip by security? Nothing.
Spade a Spade

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Apr 29, 2012
Jessica Vega wrote:
<quoted text>The private screening of 9/11 wasn't any less effective than what you have today. What did the terrorists slip by security? Nothing.
Procedures were different before 911. The crew would cooperate with the hijacker and ransom would be the motive. After 911, hijacker wants to use the aircraft as a missle. Thus lock the cockpit, Marshalls on board and get the aircraft on the ground asap.

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#11 Apr 29, 2012
The best thing done for aircraft security is the reinforced cockpit door. The TSA is a farce, but they do look good in thier spiffy uniforms and therefore must be effective. Ask anyone, if you look good you perform good. Me, I'm too busy busting my hump to worry about how pretty I am. I said it in Sept of 2001. The airlines are going to give seats away to get people in the air. People will get spoiled and it will be all over. Now you pay for every little thing because the airfares alone are not enough to make money. Budget carriers who pay such meager wages, the employees need 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet. Provided of course they dont just contract labor out. What used to be an experience is now a trip to Walmart (sorry Walmart, no defemation intended.) Ironically people complain about having to buy food, yet when it was free complained about it's quality. Shut up and eat something before you get to the airport. Stepping off the soap box now, to be continued
not a fine wine

Hinesburg, VT

#12 Apr 29, 2012
Jessica Vega wrote:
<quoted text>The private screening of 9/11 wasn't any less effective than what you have today. What did the terrorists slip by security? Nothing.
Well if that's true than we're no safer now. But I'll tell what... back then you never stood in the lines we stand in today. It was owned, maintained, and operated by people nwa hired. Not the government. Nwa or any airline, was going to delay their on time departures with thorough security inspections.
Spade a Spade

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Apr 30, 2012
Prost wrote:
The best thing done for aircraft security is the reinforced cockpit door. The TSA is a farce, but they do look good in thier spiffy uniforms and therefore must be effective. Ask anyone, if you look good you perform good. Me, I'm too busy busting my hump to worry about how pretty I am. I said it in Sept of 2001. The airlines are going to give seats away to get people in the air. People will get spoiled and it will be all over. Now you pay for every little thing because the airfares alone are not enough to make money. Budget carriers who pay such meager wages, the employees need 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet. Provided of course they dont just contract labor out. What used to be an experience is now a trip to Walmart (sorry Walmart, no defemation intended.) Ironically people complain about having to buy food, yet when it was free complained about it's quality. Shut up and eat something before you get to the airport. Stepping off the soap box now, to be continued
I see the cockpit doors have you fooled too..The panels that hold the door, at least in the Airbus, are made of honeycomb panels. They will not stop a bullet or someone who wants to kick it through.

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#14 Apr 30, 2012
Spade a Spade wrote:
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I see the cockpit doors have you fooled too..The panels that hold the door, at least in the Airbus, are made of honeycomb panels. They will not stop a bullet or someone who wants to kick it through.
Super 80 doors are decent, much better than they were. The doors on the 767 are a beast. Can't speak for Airbus, but I'm not a big fan of thiers having had the "pleasure" of working the A-300. That said, things are only as secure as the determination of the criminal. Back in 1980 it was still take me to Cuba. I demand money or freed poilitical prisoners. Things even weren't that bad unless you were a member of the US Military. At least once they learned to screen luggage. 1000's of planes have flown safely. Then people decided to use planes as weapons. That honeycombed door will slow people down just enough to let a plane full of heroes reclaim it.
not a fine wine

Moretown, VT

#15 Apr 30, 2012
Not matter what the structure is around the door, there is enough to keep people out of the cockpit. The weak stop was the door itself. If some nut case wants to take out the airplane the door isn't going to stop them.

What I worry about... is what can be done during overhaul at these overseas MROs.
Austinite

Austin, TX

#16 May 4, 2012
Commercial flying is a joke. I stopped using their overpriced service after I had to sit next to some buffarillo who did not know what soap or deoderant was. She took up her whle seat and tried to keep the armrest up so she could try for half of mine. I had to listen to her whine about being uncomfrotable all the to Florida. I put my earbuds in and turned up Sabaton the whole way.
The flight crew was like talking to a stoned wall, could ot do anything really as the plane was booked so no other seats.
I told her as we were deboarding to buy two seats next time or simply check herself in as cargo.
Austinite

Austin, TX

#17 May 4, 2012
Angry Blackman wrote:
You white honkies, riding around in those fancy pancy private jets. Leaving us poor black folks, scrubbing your floors, loading your bags and left with the scraps.
Then do something to improve your situation instead of complaining about it.
Angry Blackman

Bryan, TX

#18 May 4, 2012
Austinite wrote:
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Then do something to improve your situation instead of complaining about it.
Yeah; just another example of whittey putting down the black man. He tries to stand up and they shove him to the ground.
I tell you, we gonna rise up against you white folks and be putting you down, yeah here!
Austinite

Austin, TX

#19 May 4, 2012
Angry Blackman wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah; just another example of whittey putting down the black man. He tries to stand up and they shove him to the ground.
I tell you, we gonna rise up against you white folks and be putting you down, yeah here!
LOL, I am black myself. My grandparents came to Austin, Texas from Durban, South Africa in 1923. South Africa is in Africa in case you were wondering about that. My grandparents could tell you about whites oppressing blacks that would make what was going on in America seem like a trip to Disneyland.
Only you can better yourself and only you are to blame if you do nothing to better yourself.
El Cid

Austin, TX

#20 May 5, 2012
not a fine wine wrote:
Very interesting article. Deregulation has failed. And it took a think tank to figure this out. Where was the think tank when they came up with this stupid plan.
Deregulation has failed in all areas, postal service, banks, airlines, utilities, phone, and so on. Only leads to higher prices and little to no oversight or consumer protection.

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