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Pat
Granby, CT
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Moore is a multimillionaire now bashing capitalism. Capitalism is how he obtained his wealth. He is just another silly idealist (and hypocrite) living in a lala land of equality wishing for a world where a dunce can have the same quality of life as a bright, well educated person. IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. Our system is based upon competition and the cream will always rise to the top. There are as many ways to get rich today as there were yesterday or a year ago and those with decent intellect, education and drive can and will do just fine. The lower IQ people will remain at the bottom where they always have been and nothing short of communism will change that. Life is nothing but a series of choices and it is the quality of the choices you make that determine your outcome and poor people generally make poor choices and smart people tend to make smart choices. If nature wanted equality we would all have the same IQ.
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John Galt
Dayton, OH
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Barb In Olympia
Olympia, WA
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Pat wrote: Moore is a multimillionaire now bashing capitalism. Capitalism is how he obtained his wealth. He is just another silly idealist (and hypocrite) living in a lala land of equality wishing for a world where a dunce can have the same quality of life as a bright, well educated person. IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. Our system is based upon competition and the cream will always rise to the top. There are as many ways to get rich today as there were yesterday or a year ago and those with decent intellect, education and drive can and will do just fine. The lower IQ people will remain at the bottom where they always have been and nothing short of communism will change that. Life is nothing but a series of choices and it is the quality of the choices you make that determine your outcome and poor people generally make poor choices and smart people tend to make smart choices. If nature wanted equality we would all have the same IQ. Moore is a modern day saint.
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Pat
Granby, CT
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Barb In Olympia wrote: <quoted text> Moore is a modern day saint. Rather, he's a fat liberal dude from Michigan who makes controversial documentaries.
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Pax et Bonum
Atwater, OH
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Pat wrote: <quoted text> Rather, he's a fat liberal dude from Michigan who makes controversial documentaries. So you must be a conservative. Goes to show you the mindset of conservatives that you need to call attention to his size and not just the issues he brings to the light be they car makers, guns, healthcare, or the way we use our wealth.
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Pat
Granby, CT
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Pax et Bonum wrote: <quoted text> So you must be a conservative. Goes to show you the mindset of conservatives that you need to call attention to his size and not just the issues he brings to the light be they car makers, guns, healthcare, or the way we use our wealth. Is that all there is, liberal and conservative? I'm an atheist, I like freedom, freedom for women to choose, freedom for gays to get married, freedom to own guns. I think drug laws that attempt to protect people from themseves are stupid, I am against a socialist government that wants to subsidize a large underclass at the expense of working taxpayers, I am against this mass migration of uneducated third worlders who are ruining the quality of life in our country. So am I a conservative or a liberal?
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Doc
AOL
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I wouldn't see that movie if they paid me.
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yourBESTpal
Cincinnati, OH
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Pat wrote: Moore is a multimillionaire now bashing capitalism. Capitalism is how he obtained his wealth. He is just another silly idealist (and hypocrite) living in a lala land of equality wishing for a world where a dunce can have the same quality of life as a bright, well educated person. IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. Our system is based upon competition and the cream will always rise to the top. There are as many ways to get rich today as there were yesterday or a year ago and those with decent intellect, education and drive can and will do just fine. The lower IQ people will remain at the bottom where they always have been and nothing short of communism will change that. Life is nothing but a series of choices and it is the quality of the choices you make that determine your outcome and poor people generally make poor choices and smart people tend to make smart choices. If nature wanted equality we would all have the same IQ. Oh, I see, poor people make a choice to be born poor. Poor people choose not to afford health insurance. Poor people all have low IQ's. Poor people caused corporate crooks to behave badly. Poor people crashed the companies they ran. Poor people escaped those companies with golden parachutes and billions of dollars that were somehow "earned" by being greedy, arrogant and incompetent thugs. Poor people are bad, rich people are good.(Such brilliant mentality!) Life in the corporate world is nothing but a series of choices made by cronies, for cronies. If you believe every CEO out there deserves a position making thousands of dollars an hour, lala land is your domain, from Enron to AIG. Michael Moore exposing the excesses, greed and hubris of those that run these capitalist companies (into the ground) somehow equates to "bashing capitalism and completely exposes the naiveté and smug indifference of those embracing conservative ideology, and the fact that they live in a simplistic world of the perfect hypocrisy. After the catastrophic corporate corruption and incompetence of the Bush years, conservatives are still acting like it didn't happen while projecting their own criminality, incompetence and shortcomings onto everyone but those that created the messes, or simply sat by and did nothing while corporate capitalists ran amok. It's a hoot reading the garbage posted by those of the conservative persuasion. Can anyone say, "Social Darwinism?"
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“Obama said the USA is "one ”
Since: Mar 08
nation under Allah"? PROVE IT!
ISP:
Livingston, TN
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Moore isnt bashing capitalism.....he is bashing the perverted thing that capitalism has become.....we prosecute the Ken Lays and Bernie Madoffs for cooking the books but yet we let Bush/Cheney waltz out of the White House after cooking the books of the US Treasury far worse than Lay,Madoff and all the others combined cooked their books. Bush and Cheney fought two wars and borrowed money to pay for them while handing our own money to us as 'tax breaks' that will eventually have to be repaid BY us with INTEREST to CHINA while not even counting the debts into the budget.Bush and Cheney opened the US Treasury and emptied it out to their rich billionaire CEO buddies just before they left office to the tune of almost a trillion dollars and we ,as a nation,stood by and uttered nary a word. Now when Obama adds up all the debt and says we must start paying it off ,we want to kill the messenger. Moore is just trying to get us up off our lazy butts before we become a third world debtor nation....Oops!...too late.
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Doc
AOL
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Moore would probably be turned down by most health insurance companies as he is a overweight slot.
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Pax et Bonum
Atwater, OH
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Pat wrote: <quoted text> Is that all there is, liberal and conservative? I'm an atheist, I like freedom, freedom for women to choose, freedom for gays to get married, freedom to own guns. I think drug laws that attempt to protect people from themseves are stupid, I am against a socialist government that wants to subsidize a large underclass at the expense of working taxpayers, I am against this mass migration of uneducated third worlders who are ruining the quality of life in our country. So am I a conservative or a liberal? Unfortunately it's not allowed for me to post what I think you are.
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Since: Jan 07
Phoenix AZ
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Phoenix, AZ
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'...to subsidize a large underclass at the expense of working taxpayers," Pat: Socialism does not subsidize a large underclass at the expense of taxpayers, capitalism does that, to keep them quiet. Socialism subsidizes them at the expense of the very wealthy. And, that is a fact. Study your history.
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Pax et Bonum
Atwater, OH
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mr mojo risin wrote: Moore isnt bashing capitalism.....he is bashing the perverted thing that capitalism has become.....we prosecute the Ken Lays and Bernie Madoffs for cooking the books but yet we let Bush/Cheney waltz out of the White House after cooking the books of the US Treasury far worse than Lay,Madoff and all the others combined cooked their books. Bush and Cheney fought two wars and borrowed money to pay for them while handing our own money to us as 'tax breaks' that will eventually have to be repaid BY us with INTEREST to CHINA while not even counting the debts into the budget.Bush and Cheney opened the US Treasury and emptied it out to their rich billionaire CEO buddies just before they left office to the tune of almost a trillion dollars and we ,as a nation,stood by and uttered nary a word. Now when Obama adds up all the debt and says we must start paying it off ,we want to kill the messenger. Moore is just trying to get us up off our lazy butts before we become a third world debtor nation....Oops!...too late. This is all too sad and all too true.
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sam
Dayton, OH
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Michael Moore is a saint.He is drawing attention to the people in our government who are stealing or cheating the public out of their tax money and retirement funds.He is exposing those who find ways to avoid paying their bills by inventing a bankruptcy that allows a corporation and business to cancel their debts and remain in business using taxpayer money.More power to him.His take on healthcare is accurate and factual.How many of you conservatives dont know how to spell Michael
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Pat
Granby, CT
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yourBESTpal wrote: <quoted text> Oh, I see, poor people make a choice to be born poor. Poor people choose not to afford health insurance. Poor people all have low IQ's. Poor people caused corporate crooks to behave badly. Poor people crashed the companies they ran. Poor people escaped those companies with golden parachutes and billions of dollars that were somehow "earned" by being greedy, arrogant and incompetent thugs. Poor people are bad, rich people are good.(Such brilliant mentality!) Life in the corporate world is nothing but a series of choices made by cronies, for cronies. If you believe every CEO out there deserves a position making thousands of dollars an hour, lala land is your domain, from Enron to AIG. Michael Moore exposing the excesses, greed and hubris of those that run these capitalist companies (into the ground) somehow equates to "bashing capitalism and completely exposes the naiveté and smug indifference of those embracing conservative ideology, and the fact that they live in a simplistic world of the perfect hypocrisy. After the catastrophic corporate corruption and incompetence of the Bush years, conservatives are still acting like it didn't happen while projecting their own criminality, incompetence and shortcomings onto everyone but those that created the messes, or simply sat by and did nothing while corporate capitalists ran amok. It's a hoot reading the garbage posted by those of the conservative persuasion. Can anyone say, "Social Darwinism?" Please, show me all the "poor people" who stay away from drugs and stealing, do well in school, don't gamble,smoke or drink, have protected sex, are responsible and earn an adequate living before having babies and I'll show you all the wealthy people doing everything wrong.
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Pat
Granby, CT
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Pax et Bonum wrote: <quoted text> Unfortunately it's not allowed for me to post what I think you are. Enjoy your dogma.
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Freedom up in Smoke
Texarkana, TX
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Pat wrote: <quoted text> Is that all there is, liberal and conservative? I'm an atheist, I like freedom, freedom for women to choose, freedom for gays to get married, freedom to own guns. I think drug laws that attempt to protect people from themseves are stupid, I am against a socialist government that wants to subsidize a large underclass at the expense of working taxpayers, I am against this mass migration of uneducated third worlders who are ruining the quality of life in our country. So am I a conservative or a liberal? You seem to be a textbook example of a Libertarian.And I agree with you on many points.
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Pat
Granby, CT
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Ye Olde Fart wrote: '...to subsidize a large underclass at the expense of working taxpayers," Pat: Socialism does not subsidize a large underclass at the expense of taxpayers, capitalism does that, to keep them quiet. Socialism subsidizes them at the expense of the very wealthy. And, that is a fact. Study your history. Capitalism is where commerce and wealth are controlled by the private sector not the government. What we are heading towards is socialism, where more and more of the wealth is controlled and distributed by the government. Socialism is like Robin Hood - steal from the rich, give to the poor.
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EUGENE J GANNON SR
Dayton, OH
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The Old Cold Warrior
Cincinnati, OH
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I viewed and listened to Mr. Moore's latest movie but still can't find out where my money went and how it got lost and spent, nor what a derivative is. For the good of our nation, we have to get these same Wall Street geniuses out of the Obama administration because they won't get out of going between Wall Street and Washington, D.C. We cannot sue but can only boohoo because, unlike them, we are not too big to be allowed to lose.
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