Kasich's beliefs at heart of plan

Captain Obvious wrote:

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Really, you can find 8 billion from tax cheats and levies? Man, I wish I would've known about you before the election. Randy from NY as a write-in in 2014!!!!!!!!!!

I didnt say 8 billion, I said the portion being passed down to the local gov'ts Cbus has to come up with a few million.

The real decisions are being made on Wall Street and in Bejing. John-boy is working for the Wall Street side.

We are left to fight over the scraps.

Pass SB-5 with a "Right to Work" clause. Shrink government ASAP. Get rid of the dead weight and reward the hard working. Than cut the budget again next year. Repeal Prevailing Wage and cut the budget the year after next. The Governor has got us headed in the Right Direction. He needs our support against the union who don't care about anyone but themselves.

Retired Deputy wrote:

The biggest tax cheats are in the top 5% of the rich. The biggest "welfare" faruds are the coporate welfare faruds and no one ever goes after them to get the money back.
Maybe cities and counties who have given tax abatements in lavish numbers will rethink that path. Stop the cpmpetition that allows a firm renting a warehouse in Grove City from getting a "better offer" in tax abatements to rent a warehouse in Groveport. That is the definition of insanity.
But we will not be able to afford Kasich 4 years so he has to go so I pray a federal court indicts him and he gets led out of his plush office in handcuffs.

Thats fine go after the top 5%, but you know what the main difference is between "corporate welfare" and other welfare fraud, the Corps are the ones creating jobs and creating a service or product that drives the economy. Welfare recipients that are receiving benefits fraudulently are stealing money not getting tax rebates on taxes paid.

The cause of Ohio's job loss is the same as the nation's: outsourcing of jobs made possible by the NAFTA & GATT regime pushed through by the world's financial elites. The cause of Ohio's budget deficit is the financial crash caused by the elites, the tax cuts pushed by the elites, and the outsourcing of jobs by the elites. So what is Kasich's response? The one pushed by those same elites: no taxes on the wealthy and cutting all programs that help America's rapidly failing middle class.

This is a cruel budget foisted upon Ohio by cruel, greedy people. This is our future until there is fundamental campaign finance reform, the overturning of Citizens United, and steps to address our country's ruinous inequality in income.

Did anyone else catch this part of Mr. Hallett's analysis? He stated: "... plus a modest economic recovery, to produce an extra $4 billion in tax revenue to fill half the budget hole."

So, the $8B "budget hole" was actually only $4B! Nice spin, sir. "I took care of my household budget crisis by getting paid more."

And the other half of the "budget hole"? Well, that was federal money. I'd like to see an analysis comparing pre-Stimulus appropriations to post-Stimulus appropriations. I'll bet they'd look very similar.

I almost fell off my treadmill last night watching the Governor on the news. Certainly there are institutions, etc, that need to be overhauled in our state. But the budget is NO place for this kind of agenda.
Ohio voted for a republican, but that sure isn't what they got!

Randy wrote:

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Thats fine go after the top 5%, but you know what the main difference is between "corporate welfare" and other welfare fraud, the Corps are the ones creating jobs and creating a service or product that drives the economy. Welfare recipients that are receiving benefits fraudulently are stealing money not getting tax rebates on taxes paid.

You are so right. So called corp welfare is when a corporation just gets relief on a small portion of the total taxes they pay. The top 5% still pay more in total than all the rest.

Read the Facts wrote:

I almost fell off my treadmill last night watching the Governor on the news. Certainly there are institutions, etc, that need to be overhauled in our state. But the budget is NO place for this kind of agenda.
Ohio voted for a republican, but that sure isn't what they got!

Of course it is, that is the only way you get change, by forcing it. That is why the Gov't is in such bad shape, all these agencies make sure they spend every last penny of their budget every year, so they don't get cuts for next fiscal. If you dont force them to save, they won't. They would rather hold their hands out and ask for more taxpayer money.

Moving to Texas wrote:

Pass SB-5 with a "Right to Work" clause. Shrink government ASAP. Get rid of the dead weight and reward the hard working. Than cut the budget again next year. Repeal Prevailing Wage and cut the budget the year after next. The Governor has got us headed in the Right Direction. He needs our support against the union who don't care about anyone but themselves.

except Kasich isn't doing any of that...

Randy wrote:

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Thats fine go after the top 5%, but you know what the main difference is between "corporate welfare" and other welfare fraud, the Corps are the ones creating jobs and creating a service or product that drives the economy. Welfare recipients that are receiving benefits fraudulently are stealing money not getting tax rebates on taxes paid.

that's a tough on...

it's a theory of trickle down and trickle up

does the rich guy getting richer mean he WILL create jobs? We aren't seeing that with THIS recovery - companies making more and more profits but NOT creating jobs

Changing fed tax rates back to the levels of the Reagan years (or Bush I or Clinton...) would fix most of our economic woes.

The richest 400 people in this country own more wealth than 150 MILLION of us COMBINED, far more than they ever owned when Reagan was president.

They have been bailed out, given sweetheart deals, grown richer and fatter at our expense and now they're coming after our meager wages, and "luxuries" such as local police, fire and teaching staffs.

Why? The fat cats don't want to pay their fair share. Period. Their selfish desire to keep even more of their offshore billions is the crux of the entire "fiscal emergency" that has besieged our country.

Of course they couldn't succeed without the help of lowly peons who would enthusiastically chop a path through the jungle for a parade of Porsche Carreras whose passengers would just as soon spit on them as give them a fair shake.

Now their apologists will tell us about how the fat cats create jobs and the more money we give them, the more jobs they'll create. Huh? Where are these legions of jobs? Nowhere. They're a figment of imagination. GW Bush instituted huge tax cuts, yet there was zero net job growth during his terms.

It's all lies, and some of us eat them up like bad gruel ladled into a chipped bowl.

Where are my government cutbacks!? The last budget was $54 billion. This one should have come in at $46 billion! Instead, it goes up? I don't get it.

CUT SPENDING NOW!

Randy wrote:

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Of course it is, that is the only way you get change, by forcing it. That is why the Gov't is in such bad shape, all these agencies make sure they spend every last penny of their budget every year, so they don't get cuts for next fiscal. If you dont force them to save, they won't. They would rather hold their hands out and ask for more taxpayer money.

forcing change?

What change?

Here's what I mean... Kasich cut the budget to local communities and PROMISSED "reform" to help them... and gave some vague concepts

budget is no place for reform because budget is real money... until you SEE the reform it's just a theory

cutting the money to a police department is REAL
saying you'll figure some way to help them work it out is theory

you should come up with the reform BEFORE cutting the money (or at least at the same time)

Kasich is taking the money and promissing to come up with help... but has none yet

theory won't fight crime or fires... action will

this has no action... just a "trust me"

I voted for Strickland and Obama but over the past years Ive seen what total democrat control does and it's just bad. John Kasich has madde me a believer and I will never vote for a democrat again. I don't see him up there lying or covering up what he really means like Obama does because we all know what Obama has said, like he wants total government health care, but then he says he never said that. Well I heard him say it, just like I heard him say that his energy policy would make gas and electic prices rise, so people would have to use less. But with John Kasich, he says what he means and means what he says. Yet I read all the insults people say about him on this website and I think those people are grandstanding because they must only care about political parties and dont really care if problems get fixed, just as long as they get their handouts then everything is fine. I was able to see the truth, and when I see all the negative things people say about John Kasich and the republicans, I feel like I'm in a theater watching a movie with these people but they're making up their own story about the movie. I'm tired of all the people that aren't able to do what I did and wake up and smell the coffee.

smaller government wrote:

Where are my government cutbacks!? The last budget was $54 billion. This one should have come in at $46 billion! Instead, it goes up? I don't get it.
CUT SPENDING NOW!

nobody ever cuts government spending... lol

Kasich cut it to the local level - fire/police/roads/schools

but he spends it for his $ people

example: JobsOhio... created to GIVE to a big time political donor from California...
Kasich tells us it will be SELF FUNDING to get us to support it (HEEEEY! it's cutting government spending by cutting and agency and doing it in the private sector)

BUT what do we find... yesterday he tells us he's LEASING the Liqur agency... with all the money going to... wait for it... FUND JOBSOHIO...

so let me get this straight... this "self funding" is coming from privatizing a revenue generating agancy and giving it the money?

MAN... why didn't I give money to Kasich! great investment because he will def. pay off his big supporters at the cost of the tax payers!

If he agrees with tea partiers that federal and state governments should stay out of local government's business, how can he and the tea partiers support SB5, which totally controls how local governments treat their workers and teachers? It's all a republican scam to take over.

Think Harder wrote:

I've never understood why the state takes money from citizens, and then redistributes back to the local governments. Local governments are the ones that can be held the most accountable by its citizens. I've always thought the we should be paying our largest share of taxes to local governments, then the state, with the smallest amount being paid to the fed. There's no reason that the fed should be able to dangle carrots in from of the state, or the state dangling carrots in from of the locals.

Amen Brother !!!

Then there is this question: Why is a governor who opposes government intrusion using his budget to require college professors to teach one extra class every two years?
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Err, because they are STATE universities?

We all know where this is going: if they refuse, the State will reduce its support of those universities. It's called the "carrot and stick" method.

This isn't rocket science people.

Brian wrote:

If he agrees with tea partiers that federal and state governments should stay out of local government's business, how can he and the tea partiers support SB5, which totally controls how local governments treat their workers and teachers? It's all a republican scam to take over.

Rubbish.

It's doesn't control anything. Local governments are still free to grant excessive raises and benefit increases as much as they want / can afford. Only now they are also free to reign in those excessive costs instead of being bent over a barrel by the unions.

The only thing I see that it prevents is the government from contributing the EMPLOYEES portion of pensions costs. And rightly so. What part of EMPLOYEES portion don't people understand?