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Marijuana IS far safer than alcohol or tobacco.

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#42
Nov 14, 2009
 
"Skunk" is a slang term for cannabis. skunk weed stinks like skunk with a very potent smell and some believe it to be a better grade of weed.Its like saying what the difference between soda and pepsi......

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#43
Nov 14, 2009
 
New Mexico Activist 505 wrote:
I am sick of trying to convince people like you.
Then you are merely going to preach to the choir? BTW, I see I was right....if you really have severe pain.

If medical marijuana is legalized everywhere (and I am convinced it shouldn't be) people who really don't need it will be trying to get it...faking prescriptions, robbing outlets, reselling it on the streets, going to "THC doctors" ...it'll be just like the scourge of oxycontin. We'll have a whole new class of drug criminals.

Again, my main position is that this is the most drug-addled country ever, all doped up with pharmaceuticals and illegal drugs (not to mention alcohol). Sobriety and sober people are disenfranchised, mocked, looked down on.

Well, toke away. It's your body and brain. Just don't bring it around kids and don't drive anywhere, for our sakes.
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#44
Nov 14, 2009
 
but whiskey is good for ya...the govt. says so so it must be true
nmweatherman wrote:
The short-term effects of marijuana include:
-Distorted perception (sights, sounds, time, touch)
-Problems with memory and learning
-Loss of coordination
-Trouble with thinking and problem-solving
-Increased heart rate, reduced blood pressure.
-Sometimes marijuana use can also produce anxiety, fear, distrust, or panic.
Effects on the Brain:
The active ingredient in marijuana, delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol or THC, acts on cannabinoid receptors on nerve cells and influences the activity of those cells. Some brain areas have many cannabinoid receptors, but other areas of the brain have few or none at all. Many cannabinoid receptors are found in the parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thought, concentration, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement.
When high doses of marijuana are used, usually when eaten in food rather than smoked, users can experience the following symptoms:
-Hallucinations
-Delusions
-Impaired memory
-Disorientation
Effects on the Heart:
Within a few minutes after smoking marijuana, the heart begins beating more rapidly and the blood pressure drops. Marijuana can cause the heart beat to increase by 20 to 50 beats per minute, and can increase even more if other drugs are used at the same time.
Because of the lower blood pressure and higher heart rate, researchers found that users' risk for a heart attack is four times higher within the first hour after smoking marijuana.
Effects on the Lungs:
Smoking marijuana, even infrequently, can cause burning and stinging of the mouth and throat, and cause heavy coughing. Scientists have found that regular marijuana smokers can experience the same respiratory problems as tobacco smokers do, including:
-Daily cough and phlegm production
-More frequent acute chest illnesses
-Increased risk of lung infections
-Obstructed airways
Marijuana contains more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke and because marijuana smokers usually inhale deeper and hold the smoke in their lungs longer than tobacco smokers, their lungs are exposed to those carcinogenic properties longer.
One study found that marijuana smokers were three times more likely to develop cancer of the head or neck than non-smokers. Many researchers believe than smoking marijuana is overall more harmful to the lungs than smoking tobacco.
Other Health Effects:
Research indicates that THC impairs the body's immune system from fighting disease, which can cause a wide variety of health problems. One study found that marijuana actually inhibited the disease-preventing actions of key immune cells. Another study found that THC increased the risk of developing bacterial infections and tumors.
Effects of Exposure During Pregnancy:
Several studies have found that children born to mothers who used marijuana during pregnancy exhibit some problems with neurological development. According to those studies, prenatal marijuana exposure can cause:
-Altered responses to visual stimuli
-Increased tremulousness
-Problems with sustained attention and memory
-Poor problem-solving skills
http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/effects....

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#45
Nov 14, 2009
 
davy wrote:
but whiskey is good for ya...the govt. says so so it must be true<quoted text>
In fact, moderate amounts of alcohol have been shown to be good for you, especially moderate use of red wine. But it's very easy to get into trouble by going over the line with drinking too much.

I know.

Like Glenn Beck, I've been there too. Ummmm...please don't tell anybody,'kay?

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Nov 14, 2009
 
nmweatherman wrote:
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In fact, moderate amounts of alcohol have been shown to be good for you, especially moderate use of red wine. But it's very easy to get into trouble by going over the line with drinking too much.
I know.
Like Glenn Beck, I've been there too. Ummmm...please don't tell anybody,'kay?
Am I wrong, or are you being patronized watherman?

Glenn Beck is a loon, so I'm too worried about his "struggles".

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Nov 14, 2009
 
New Mexico Activist 505 wrote:
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Am I wrong, or are you being patronized watherman?
Glenn Beck is a loon, so I'm too worried about his "struggles".
....huh?

You're "high" again, huh. Read your post tomorrow. Then, try, try again.
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Nov 17, 2009
 

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nmweatherman wrote:
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....huh?
You're "high" again, huh. Read your post tomorrow. Then, try, try again.
Ah, so I can only be critical of you when I'm high?

You are an educated fool.

And yes, you can keep shoving biases research down my throat and I'll keep regurgiating it.

It's easy to swallow a lie mixed with truth.

It's even more difficult to contemplate that everything you THINK you know is wrong.

Instead of approaching me with an open mind, you constantly seek to slander me by making jokes about who I am.

Do you feel better when you riducule marijuana consumers?

Would you turn me in for smoking marijuana?

I'd be willing to bet on it that you would.

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#49
Nov 21, 2009
 
The Toxicity of Marijauna-Overdose Potential

There has never been a documented human fatality from
overdosing on tetrahydrocannabinol or cannabis.

Information about THC's toxicity is derived from animal studies. The toxicity depends on the route of administration and the laboratory animal. Absorption is limited by serum lipids, which can become saturated with THC, mitigating toxicity.

According to the Merck Index, 12th edition, THC has a LD50 (dose killing half of the research subjects) value of 1270 mg/kg (male rats) and 730 mg/kg (female rats) administered orally dissolved in sesame oil.[17] The LD50 value for rats by inhalation of THC is 42 mg/kg of body weight.

One estimate of Cannabis's LD50 for humans indicates that about 1500 pounds (680 kilograms) of Cannabis would have to be smoked within 15 minutes.

This estimate is supported by studies which indicate that the effective dose of THC is at least 1000 times lower than the estimated lethal dose (a "safety ratio" of 1000:1). This is much higher than alcohol (safety ratio of 10), cocaine (15), or heroin (6).

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#50
Nov 21, 2009
 
I think a better title for this thread would have been "Marijuana IS less dangerous than alcohol or tobacco"
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Nov 22, 2009
 
As with all currently popular fads and avant garde' perceptions, "The prophet is not without honor, except in his own country."
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#52
Nov 22, 2009
 
As the tobacco nazis have acceeded to the slaughter of 40 million aborted children, they also must need to project their guilty self-righteousness onto tobacco.

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#53
Nov 23, 2009
 
conrad wrote:
As the tobacco nazis have acceeded to the slaughter of 40 million aborted children, they also must need to project their guilty self-righteousness onto tobacco.
Friend tobacco kills more people than alcohol.

It is not any self-righteousness that motivates this poll.

The point is to educate others about the relative harms associated
with marijuana, alcohol, and tobacco.

It IS scientific fact that marijuana is a far safer substance and yet people like yourself are allowed to consume blatantly destructive poisons in the open air and Marijuana consumers are vilified and arrested.

That is wrong. I stress the need for regulation. I can accept a tax on marijuana if it will legitimize it in the public eye.

I can not accept the lies told about Marijuana. I can not accept my government pushing citizens towards alcohol consumption instead towards a safer substance such as Marijuana.
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Nov 23, 2009
 
New Mexico Activist 505 wrote:
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Friend tobacco kills more people than alcohol.
It is not any self-righteousness that motivates this poll.
The point is to educate others about the relative harms associated
with marijuana, alcohol, and tobacco.
It IS scientific fact that marijuana is a far safer substance and yet people like yourself are allowed to consume blatantly destructive poisons in the open air and Marijuana consumers are vilified and arrested.
That is wrong. I stress the need for regulation. I can accept a tax on marijuana if it will legitimize it in the public eye.
I can not accept the lies told about Marijuana. I can not accept my government pushing citizens towards alcohol consumption instead towards a safer substance such as Marijuana.And you can accept a government tax on American citizens to force them to pay for abortions.
And you can accept a government tax on American citizens to force them to pay for abortions?
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#55
Nov 24, 2009
 
The whole point of the discussion (whether cannabis is safer than tobacco and alcohol) is a waste of time. Americans no longer value personal freedoms. If you prove beyond any doubt that alcohol and tobacco are more dangerous than cannabis the holier than thou set will just start pushing to get rid of those things too. Within fifty years smoking tobacco and being overweight will be illegal. Americans learned NOTHING from prohibition.

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Nov 24, 2009
 
INFIDEL wrote:
The whole point of the discussion (whether cannabis is safer than tobacco and alcohol) is a waste of time. Americans no longer value personal freedoms. If you prove beyond any doubt that alcohol and tobacco are more dangerous than cannabis the holier than thou set will just start pushing to get rid of those things too. Within fifty years smoking tobacco and being overweight will be illegal. Americans learned NOTHING from prohibition.
It is the duty of patriots to fight for what is just and true.

I am glad that you can concede that alochol and tobacco represent a real and present danger to humanity as a species.

We can't just keep destroying our bodies and justify that destruction with legislation.

I do no advocate for ANY prohibition, no matter what the substance may be.

I feel it is the personal choice of liberty that should be exercised by reasonable beings.

It is one thing to outlaw a thing, it's another to try and enforce that said law.

Prohibition didn't work with alcohol and it's a dangerous carcinogen which kills countless millions of people annualy.

Marijuana is the safer substance. If people will choose to unwind, why not do so in a positive way, without destroying your body to do so?

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Nov 24, 2009
 
merle wrote:
<quoted text>And you can accept a government tax on American citizens to force them to pay for abortions?
I do not support any such tax. I concede that I am against any law which legislates outright murder.

Did that life have the opportunity to grow?

The pro choicer would say that the fetus has no real "life".

Isn't that sick that we can decide as a society what constitutes murder by re-defining life to suit our needs.

Please explain why you have asked this particular question.

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Nov 24, 2009
 
merle wrote:
<quoted text>And you can accept a government tax on American citizens to force them to pay for abortions?
I never said this. the qoute ends just before your incendiary statement.

Your comment was incorrectly added at the bottom of my post when you qouted my previous post. My post was on topic in regards to the efficacy of marijuana.

This seems to be purposefull tactic to mislead othes and defame my character.

I do not appreciate your manipulations.

Please cease your childishness and contribute something worthwhile to the debate.

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Nov 24, 2009
 
nmweatherman wrote:
And just what kind of slant is NORML going to put out?
Why are you inhaling and putting poisons into your body? Have you no self-respect?
You smoke cigarettes and you ingest caffeine.

Tobacco is a deadly carcinogen which has been proven to cause cancer.

There is no safe cigarette.

Both of your drugs of choice are highly addictive; containing horrible poisons and debilitating stimulants.

Caffeine is in the alkaloid family and does have a similar level of addiction to cocaine.

Don't you dare ask me why I am inhaling the safest therapeutic substance known to man. You don't have the right prohibitionist.

You are a hypocritical anachronism, a relic of the past.

You will fall the way of the dinosaur.
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Nov 24, 2009
 
NM Cannabism wrote:
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It is the duty of patriots to fight for what is just and true.
I am glad that you can concede that alochol and tobacco represent a real and present danger to humanity as a species.
We can't just keep destroying our bodies and justify that destruction with legislation.
I do no advocate for ANY prohibition, no matter what the substance may be.
I feel it is the personal choice of liberty that should be exercised by reasonable beings.
It is one thing to outlaw a thing, it's another to try and enforce that said law.
Prohibition didn't work with alcohol and it's a dangerous carcinogen which kills countless millions of people annualy.
Marijuana is the safer substance. If people will choose to unwind, why not do so in a positive way, without destroying your body to do so?
Good luck with your crusade. It took an international disaster (the great depression) to end prohibition. Without the depression prohibition might still exist today. I don't think cannabis will ever be legalized without a simular disaster to make us focus on whats important in life.
There is always an element within society that NEEDS to feel morally superior. They single out some behavior or vice and they demonize it. Thats where cannabis sits today. People who have no experience or firsthand knowledge of the subject feel entitled to attack something they know nothing about. It's like argueing about sexual gratification with a virgin. They might not have the slightest idea of what it is they are argueing about but they are 100% positive they are right. There is not one legitimate reason hemp should be illegal but it is and thats that.
First "they" said it makes men become violent criminals and causes white women to lust after black men (1930s). Then they said it caused brain damage (1950s). Then they said it would lead to harder drugs (1960s). Then they said it would make you sterile (1970s). The lies morph every ten years or so. You will never win over the haters. Thanks for trying though.
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Nov 24, 2009
 
nmweatherman wrote:
The short-term effects of marijuana include:
-Distorted perception (sights, sounds, time, touch)
-Problems with memory and learning
-Loss of coordination
-Trouble with thinking and problem-solving
-Increased heart rate, reduced blood pressure.
-Sometimes marijuana use can also produce anxiety, fear, distrust, or panic.
Effects on the Brain:
The active ingredient in marijuana, delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol or THC, acts on cannabinoid receptors on nerve cells and influences the activity of those cells. Some brain areas have many cannabinoid receptors, but other areas of the brain have few or none at all. Many cannabinoid receptors are found in the parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thought, concentration, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement.
When high doses of marijuana are used, usually when eaten in food rather than smoked, users can experience the following symptoms:
-Hallucinations
-Delusions
-Impaired memory
-Disorientation
Effects on the Heart:
Within a few minutes after smoking marijuana, the heart begins beating more rapidly and the blood pressure drops. Marijuana can cause the heart beat to increase by 20 to 50 beats per minute, and can increase even more if other drugs are used at the same time.
Because of the lower blood pressure and higher heart rate, researchers found that users' risk for a heart attack is four times higher within the first hour after smoking marijuana.
Effects on the Lungs:
Smoking marijuana, even infrequently, can cause burning and stinging of the mouth and throat, and cause heavy coughing. Scientists have found that regular marijuana smokers can experience the same respiratory problems as tobacco smokers do, including:
-Daily cough and phlegm production
-More frequent acute chest illnesses
-Increased risk of lung infections
-Obstructed airways
Marijuana contains more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke and because marijuana smokers usually inhale deeper and hold the smoke in their lungs longer than tobacco smokers, their lungs are exposed to those carcinogenic properties longer.
One study found that marijuana smokers were three times more likely to develop cancer of the head or neck than non-smokers. Many researchers believe than smoking marijuana is overall more harmful to the lungs than smoking tobacco.
Other Health Effects:
Research indicates that THC impairs the body's immune system from fighting disease, which can cause a wide variety of health problems. One study found that marijuana actually inhibited the disease-preventing actions of key immune cells. Another study found that THC increased the risk of developing bacterial infections and tumors.
Effects of Exposure During Pregnancy:
Several studies have found that children born to mothers who used marijuana during pregnancy exhibit some problems with neurological development. According to those studies, prenatal marijuana exposure can cause:
-Altered responses to visual stimuli
-Increased tremulousness
-Problems with sustained attention and memory
-Poor problem-solving skills
http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/effects....
Good grief?!?!? If all this BS were true the potheads would all be hospitalized or dead. 8000 years of recorded use and not one overdose. The worse possible side effect of legal marijuana would be a severe shortage of junk food and an end to drug related gang violence.
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