We need another President to defeat Jefferson Davis now in the White House.

A civil war will only occur when a total breakdown of the government is evident in most of our lives. This is not the current case in Washington, yet.

Yes, but not in the form of guns and killing. More like Civil Reform where we the people take back our country from the far left who has control now. Vote their sorry butts out and remove the liberal agenda.

We got here by apathy and laziness, lets get our country back and never again forget to retain vigilance.

Looks to me like the wrong side won the Civil War the first time.

This is ridiculous talk. What we need is a nation that is willing to work together to solve problems. Not a bunch of anarchist who think that they have an exclusive right on being wrong. The pendulum swings. The neokons just about bankrupted us and now what's left of them want to blame Obama for daring to fix it. Let time take its course. This too shall pass.

dramatech01 wrote:

This is ridiculous talk. What we need is a nation that is willing to work together to solve problems. Not a bunch of anarchist who think that they have an exclusive right on being wrong. The pendulum swings. The neokons just about bankrupted us and now what's left of them want to blame Obama for daring to fix it. Let time take its course. This too shall pass.

Fix it? You don't put more gasoline on a burning fire. You call the fire department to get some hoses and water. Obama continues to fuel the fire.

dramatech01 wrote:

This is ridiculous talk. What we need is a nation that is willing to work together to solve problems. Not a bunch of anarchist who think that they have an exclusive right on being wrong. The pendulum swings. The neokons just about bankrupted us and now what's left of them want to blame Obama for daring to fix it. Let time take its course. This too shall pass.

You said it. Excellent post. And please pray for Obama.

JosephOne wrote:

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Fix it? You don't put more gasoline on a burning fire. You call the fire department to get some hoses and water. Obama continues to fuel the fire.

Dude, you've got to quit talking in cliches and sound bites. Obama certainly can't screw up this country any worst than did Bush. You usually give a president one term before you call for his impeachment. I suggest you mellow a bit on the sedition and let allow the man some time.

CornDaddy wrote:

Yes, but not in the form of guns and killing. More like Civil Reform where we the people take back our country from the far left who has control now. Vote their sorry butts out and remove the liberal agenda.
We got here by apathy and laziness, lets get our country back and never again forget to retain vigilance.

CD, the bad news is that Obama is really a centrist or a moderate. The left wing loony liberals are very far from controlling this country. That is the shame. If Obama was as liberal as the neokon media claims, we already would have socialized medicine, carbon caps and the troops home from Afghanistan and Iraq. As it is, he's keeping the country's economy together, growing jobs and trying to finish the war on terror. That's a pretty tall order for someone who gets over 300 death threats a day from people like JosephOneNote. Cut the guy some slack. We're all of us Americans. We know how the system works.

dramatech01 wrote:

<quoted text>Dude, you've got to quit talking in cliches and sound bites. Obama certainly can't screw up this country any worst than did Bush. You usually give a president one term before you call for his impeachment. I suggest you mellow a bit on the sedition and let allow the man some time.

Look, I have been trying to find something good about his policies but all I see is the baton was passed from Bush to Obama to continue the trashing of this country that would lead to bringing America into a global government. I don't want his impeachment. I just want him and the other elected government to actually listen to the people and serve us rather than continuing to cave to either businesses as special interests or planned parenthood as special interests. We elected them to serve our interests. Not theirs and their friends.

dramatech01 wrote:

<quoted text>CD, the bad news is that Obama is really a centrist or a moderate. The left wing loony liberals are very far from controlling this country. That is the shame. If Obama was as liberal as the neokon media claims, we already would have socialized medicine, carbon caps and the troops home from Afghanistan and Iraq. As it is, he's keeping the country's economy together, growing jobs and trying to finish the war on terror. That's a pretty tall order for someone who gets over 300 death threats a day from people like JosephOneNote. Cut the guy some slack. We're all of us Americans. We know how the system works.

Death threats? You lying sack of....

I was think sack of potatoes.

Dramatech...you really are beneath contempt and have no sense of what it means to be an American.

God bless you dude...you really need blessings of Godly proportions to help you.

When a person's rights according to their personal beliefs are ignored or shoved aside, yes. The Federal and State government are taxing the middle-class so hard that in time there will be no middle class to mention. Where does our vote go? Does it really matter to vote? It seems a few power-players want to control what decisions are ultimately forced on its citizenry...

'power-players want to control what decisions are ultimately made and then force their decisions on it's citizenry'...

dramatech01 wrote:

<quoted text>CD, the bad news is that Obama is really a centrist or a moderate. The left wing loony liberals are very far from controlling this country. That is the shame. If Obama was as liberal as the neokon media claims, we already would have socialized medicine, carbon caps and the troops home from Afghanistan and Iraq. As it is, he's keeping the country's economy together, growing jobs and trying to finish the war on terror. That's a pretty tall order for someone who gets over 300 death threats a day from people like JosephOneNote. Cut the guy some slack. We're all of us Americans. We know how the system works.

Are you sure about that? His main political squeeze os Plastic Pelosi, who's about a whacko and far left as they come. Albeit I have read that he's becoming quite disenfranchised with her antics and mouth (a byproduct of botox treatments I suspect).

We have SOME socialized medicine, and that's ok. We have choices and options, unlike what we'll have it appears, if Obama-lost care passes.

What carbon caps we have are totally different than what is in the cap-n-trade disaster. CnT is one of the worst pieces of legislation I've ever read about. Next to his grandiose view of HC in America.

Those troops who came home did a quick u-turn to Afghanistan. Obama needs to stop the constipation, crap or get off the pot. Do it or don't, but gitrdun!

We're not gaining jobs, we've simply slowed down the quantity we're losing. At this rate by oh, 2040 maybe, we'll be back to pre-Obama figures. We're still losing them, just not as fast. But I will admit that is a good thing.

Obama needs to get rid of the nose ring the rest of his party has placed in his snot locker and leads him around by and do what the people want and need, not what his party wants.

Any way you cut it, a bit of civil war (again, no guns/death etc) would go far towards letting both of the major party's know we the people are sick and tired of their BS and want our country back. We want our pride, our dignity and our way of life returned!

dramatech01 wrote:

<quoted text>CD, the bad news is that Obama is really a centrist or a moderate. The left wing loony liberals are very far from controlling this country.

If The Annointed one is a centrist/moderate, then (1), he's still wrong and clueless, and (2) the far left whacko's he's surrounded himself with are even crazier than I originally thought!

Obama and his gang have almost neutered the USA. Or should I now call us the USSA (Socialist States)? Too many entitlements, not enough personal responsibility, the latter being the very fabric this nation was founded upon.

CornDaddy wrote:

Yes, but not in the form of guns and killing. More like Civil Reform where we the people take back our country from the far left who has control now. Vote their sorry butts out and remove the liberal agenda.
We got here by apathy and laziness, lets get our country back and never again forget to retain vigilance.

Nope, I don't see us lasting that long! Besides, as long as the government is supporting half of the population, no change is going to come by way of vote!

dramatech01 wrote:

<quoted text>Dude, you've got to quit talking in cliches and sound bites. Obama certainly can't screw up this country any worst than did Bush. You usually give a president one term before you call for his impeachment. I suggest you mellow a bit on the sedition and let allow the man some time.

Side note, please STOP misusing the word worse.

dramatech01 wrote:

<quoted text>CD, the bad news is that Obama is really a centrist or a moderate. The left wing loony liberals are very far from controlling this country. That is the shame. If Obama was as liberal as the neokon media claims, we already would have socialized medicine, carbon caps and the troops home from Afghanistan and Iraq. As it is, he's keeping the country's economy together, growing jobs and trying to finish the war on terror. That's a pretty tall order for someone who gets over 300 death threats a day from people like JosephOneNote. Cut the guy some slack. We're all of us Americans. We know how the system works.

Wow, you scare me. Literally, you scare me!

No war needed. Just have each state determine their alliance, either the values of our forefathers, freedom, little government, little taxes, big military, big law & order.

Or, no values, to hell with the forefathers, socialize society, big taxes (to pay for the lazy society), little or no military (they will depend on the "other" states), no police, the people can police themselves.