Cyclists ride to raise awareness

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Even though it wasn't a race, nearly 200 bike riders made their way down Central Avenue in Albuquerque on Sunday.
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Pain in the Glass

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Sep 21, 2009
 
PDL wrote....."Lastly, I am confused why fellow cyclists choose to ride on the shoulder stripe as close as possible to traffic when there's another 5'+ of pavement..."

Well....when that other 5' of pavement is littered with debris, and lots of broken glass from the many morons who think it's cool to throw their beer bottles out of the car to break on the curb...you have to make a choice.....There is broken glass all over the place in this city...it's a disgrace....I wonder how many cyclists have gotten flat tires, how many people may have fallen and cut themselves, and how many innocent dogs have cut their pads by strolling in to some idiots' broken beer bottles.....oh...and where are the street sweepers?.....in other cities...they sweep the streets WEEKLY....here i might see them in my neighborhood twice a year!

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Let's face it. Bicyclist generally DON'T obey the traffic laws. Do you actually see them come to full stops at Stop Signs? Do they blow through red lights?

I see this everyday in the UNM area and the East Mountain area. I also see this in Miami, FL and San Diego, CA.

They whine and bitch about motorists, but then don't obey the laws. NO ONE will ever respect that kind of hypocrisy.
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I think bikers need to get a license plate along with insurance. If they are to share the road with motor vehicles. They too need to go through the same process as the people who drive their vehicles on the main highways. I mean we get a ticket for not having a license plate, not being insured, etc. I think they need to do the same thing. They don't obey the rules of the highway such as stopping at proper signs, they need to get a ticket too.
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Sep 21, 2009
 
If bikers want to share the MAIN Highway with us. Get a license Plate for your bikes and Bike Insurance!

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Steph wrote:
I think bikers need to get a license plate along with insurance. If they are to share the road with motor vehicles. They too need to go through the same process as the people who drive their vehicles on the main highways. I mean we get a ticket for not having a license plate, not being insured, etc. I think they need to do the same thing. They don't obey the rules of the highway such as stopping at proper signs, they need to get a ticket too.
Although I agree about tickets, how does the rest work for children on bikes, and parents riding on regular residential streets like in front of their homes or on their blocks with their children, as opposed to heavily traveled streets?

Is all this really worth it in the end (more government intervention) when its both party's that need to use extreme care and caution? Licenses won't stop accidents, just like they do not stop auto accidents. Same with insurance. All it will do is ruin things for a lot of children and families.

You cannot legislate common sense and manners, and more government intervention because we are too lazy to follow the rules and use common sense is not what we need. JUST BE CAREFUL, BE SMART, BE ALIVE!!!
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I watch them at all times.. but they need to understand that when they ride the fog line they are 12 to 18' over into the drive lane, and some of us in big rigs have no where to travel when we are meeting another car.. so lets work with each other.. thanks
Judas Priest

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Evil Todd wrote:
LOL, I love that Silk and I are posting truths, verifiable by reading the laws and we get little bad markies. But post a stupid comment like "ALL bicyclists break the law" and more-ons line up to give agreeing marks.
Because people have experiences, regardless of the law. You know, that even though cyclists are supposed to follow the same laws, alot don't. You know that what all these people are saying "do" happen, e.g., not stopping at stop sign/light, not staying in the bike lane and slowing down traffic, etc., vehicles can get ticketed for obstructing traffic.

All this does happen, you know it does. Cyclists complain about pedestrians on Tramway, say stuff.

I work in Los Alamos, and like one poster said, cyclists do expect the red carpet.

PS- I do ride myself and avoid roads as much as possible. If I can't, I ride very cautiously, making way for vehicles.
car

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UNM area is a bad example. I mean come on, you are dealing with a lot of UNM students. Very few of those have common sense. I can see where they feel they 'own the world' and nothing is stopping them.

As for the other areas, I think it comes down to the fact that Alb has some drivers that want to go too fast and are late for where ever and can't slow down to practice safe driving. Really what would 'bicycle licenses' accomplish? Driver's licenses are worthless. If they had any remote bearing on ones ability to drive safely then quite a few NM's would not have licenses. What would insurance do? Protect the car from a ding? What? Pay taxes to further the road projects? Bikes hardly put a dent into the pavement wear, so would you tax them at $5 a year? And who will be paying this tax? Is it only for race bikes? Are you going to charge that tax for tricycles? What about mountain bikes, they use the dirt, is there a rut fee?

Really what logic gets to safety for bicyclist by license, registration and taxes? There will still be not so smart bicyclists and motorists who want to mow down those bicyclists.
Otis Campbell

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I've never understood why the cops don't issue tickets to bicyclists when they break traffic laws? I've never seen it happen, have any of you? That would go a long way toward improved bicyclist safety in the long run.
Its their own fault

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Sep 21, 2009
 
Most people on bikes in the street are deserving of an accident if they can't avoid traffic.

If my kids were playing tag in the street, would it be the cars fault if one ran out in front of the car? NO! The road is for Motorized traffic, and has rules and regulations. If a person was driving a motorcycle 20 mph slower than traffic, they would be subject to a ticket. If they weaved in and out of traffic, it would be reckless driving. If one got hit for not obeying traffic laws, it would be the motorcycle at fault.
Get the bikes on the trails and sidewalks where they belong. If you are in the street and can't avoid traffic, it is your own fault and not the cars that BELONG there. Where else should the cars go? If a car is driving in a bike lane and hits someone, then you have a complaint. But last I checked, cars can't go there, but bikes can go on the streets?????? Keep them apart and safe!!! Just cause you wanna ride your bike in the street doesn't mean that everyone else should change their ways. Be smart enough to not get hit!!!!!!!!!!

“hardcore engine revver”

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Otis Campbell wrote:
I've never understood why the cops don't issue tickets to bicyclists when they break traffic laws? I've never seen it happen, have any of you? That would go a long way toward improved bicyclist safety in the long run.
They don't? That's news to me. I bet if you actually did some research, you'd find out you're wrong.

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Judas Priest wrote:
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Because people have experiences, regardless of the law. You know, that even though cyclists are supposed to follow the same laws, alot don't. You know that what all these people are saying "do" happen, e.g., not stopping at stop sign/light, not staying in the bike lane and slowing down traffic, etc., vehicles can get ticketed for obstructing traffic.
All this does happen, you know it does. Cyclists complain about pedestrians on Tramway, say stuff.
I work in Los Alamos, and like one poster said, cyclists do expect the red carpet.
PS- I do ride myself and avoid roads as much as possible. If I can't, I ride very cautiously, making way for vehicles.
What about cars that break the law? Do you want them off the road too? Did you exceed the speed limit today, forget to signal, are you headlights adjusted properly....?

Of course there are some that break the laws. But to say "all of them do" is stupid and to wish harm upon them for the actions of a few is just beyond evil. I bet these people have children, do they want their own kids ran over while riding their bikes?

Just simply pointing out people's stupidity.

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Steph wrote:
I think bikers need to get a license plate along with insurance. If they are to share the road with motor vehicles. They too need to go through the same process as the people who drive their vehicles on the main highways. I mean we get a ticket for not having a license plate, not being insured, etc. I think they need to do the same thing. They don't obey the rules of the highway such as stopping at proper signs, they need to get a ticket too.
Well, then push your chair back, get off your bu-tt, go to a city council meeting and propose it.

In fact, all of you whiners do that. Instead of sitting here and watching your bu-tt get fatter, get off of it and propose that bikes get a license plate. I would love to see this. LOL. It will be hilarious.
Know your laws

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Lee wrote:
These posts clearly indicate why so many cyclists are hit in ABQ - the animosity toward cyclists displayed in these posts is scary.
If you don't believe that cyclists have the right to ride in the middle of a lane check the NM Statutes - cyclists have all of the rights and responsibilities of a motor vehicle. Someone at APD needs to read the motor vehicle code because they gave you an incorrect answer when they said cyclists don't have thr right to ride in the middle of the lane.
NM Statute
66-3-705. Riding on roadways and bicycle paths.

A. Every person operating a bicycle upon a roadway shall ride as near to the right side of the roadway as practicable, exercising due care when passing a standing vehicle or one proceeding in the same direction.

B. Persons riding bicycles upon a roadway shall not ride more than two abreast except on paths or parts of roadways set aside for the exclusive use of bicycles.

C. Notwithstanding any provision of this section, no bicycle shall be operated on any roadway in a manner that would create a public safety hazard.

Source: http://pages.swcp.com/~nmts/laws/NMbikelaw.ht...

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I think it's hilarious that you motorists are such hypocrites. Why don't you start setting the example by staying OUT of bike lanes. So many of you drive down bike lanes so you can make a right turn.

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Silk_the_Absent1 wrote:
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Makes you feel all warm and cozy, doesn't it? Believe me, in just a few years, happiness will be New Mexico in my rear-view mirror.
I thought for sure people would've liked what I said, since I was on your side, this time. LOL

I love it here, so I'm staying. But I can understand people leaving. There's a lot more common sense in other states. People in Cali, Colorado, Utah, washington... understand issues like this and motorcycles. But here, so many are just backwards. I'm talking about certain issues not all. But mostly in common sense like NOT saying "I want to hurt bicyclists because of a few". Oh well.

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To add, cars are already using the brand new bike lane on Academy. They drive down it when traffic is stopped, so they can get to the front of the line to make their right turn. Hmmm, can you say hypocricy (however you spell it)?

“I ain't afraid of no ghosts.”

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We've been driving out to the LA area every summer for the past six summers, and you can almost time it to the exact moment when people (somehow magically) become better drivers.

Heading west, it's when you get past Gallup.

I also discovered something interesting the first time we went out that way. There was road construction on I-40 outside of Holbrook, and there were warning signs for rough patches of road. The rough patches of I-40 were in better shape than most newly finished sections of road here. And no, that is not an embellishment.

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Know your laws wrote:
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NM Statute
66-3-705. Riding on roadways and bicycle paths.
A. Every person operating a bicycle upon a roadway shall ride as near to the right side of the roadway as practicable, exercising due care when passing a standing vehicle or one proceeding in the same direction.
B. Persons riding bicycles upon a roadway shall not ride more than two abreast except on paths or parts of roadways set aside for the exclusive use of bicycles.
C. Notwithstanding any provision of this section, no bicycle shall be operated on any roadway in a manner that would create a public safety hazard.
Source: http://pages.swcp.com/~nmts/laws/NMbikelaw.ht...
Violated every day along North 14, where they ride two-by-two and not as far to the right as possible at all. The MAJORITY of them do not obey these laws.

There is some kind of bizarre expectation of entitlement or false sense of power. Bicyclist seem to want the world to conform to them, rather than accept the fact that they alone are responsible for their own safety, regardless of the laws.
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car wrote:
I can tell very few posters on here even own a bike! This is a sad post. The Tramway path is an old argument. If you have ever been on the Tramway path as a 'user' you would know that bicyclist are in more danger there from walkers that don't move over, from dogs not on a leash or on a leash by allowed to be on the opposite side of the path from the 'walker', from runners who like to weave, from little kids learning to ride their bikes, etc. So if you want to get exercise and ride a bike at a real pace you need to get off that path.
As for 'riding the line' or not 'hugging the dirt', have you ever bothered to notice the items in the shoulder? There are not only rocks, but bottles and other things that can cause damage to the bike and easily cause a bicyclist to crash because people like you feel it is okay to throw stuff out of a car. So the '5 to 10 feet of shoulder' is really '5 to 10 feet of trash and rubble'. Plus, street sweepers do not clean that area, they push all the junk from the middle of the road on there. Until the city starts cleaning the shoulders, they are not a viable option for bicyclist.
There are bikers that do not follow 'the law' just as there are a lot of motorist who don't follow the law. Grouping everyone into a category is making yourselves sound ignorant. Just because there are those that do not wear helmets does not mean all do not. Just because some are not smart enough not to ride down Central at rush hours does not mean all do it.
Also, yes, commuters wear spandex. I bet those who don't think so also don't go to the gym at lunch because that would require you have a change of clothes.(OH, what a concept, changing clothes!) Yes, there are those I prefer not to see in spandex, but there are also those that look great in spandex. To each his own.
I ride a bike on Tramway, have ridden both on and off the set path, and I'm calling bulls*** on your post.

1. Until you're wearing a yellow jersey and laughing with Lance Armstrong, get over yourself.

2. The path isn't bad at all to ride if you call out on which side you're riding. Basic courtesy to others.

3. If the trash is that big a deal call the city to come clean it. Riding on the line with 1/2 to 3/4 ton vehicles passing you by at an avg 50 mph is stupid.

I'm not grouping all the cyclists into one group here, just the careless self-righteous idiots who think Tramway belongs to them because they're being healthy (and riding next to fast-moving cars & trucks), fabulous (look at my $400 worth of bicycling clothes! aren't I PRETTY?!), and green (even though they drove to Tramway with their bikes first).

I have more respect for a guy who is riding his bike slowly and carefully on the path in shorts and a t-shirt than I do for the aforementioned self-righteous spandex douchebags.

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