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Potluck ordinance almost ruins church fiesta

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grasshopper

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#22
Nov 20, 2008
 
Why do you think they call it potluck? You got have some good luck not to get sick!

Regardless, the jerkoffs in government need to find less intrusive and ridiculous ways to justify their existence.

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Nov 20, 2008
 

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Is there anything Chavez doesn't want to stick his nose in? I'm counting the days until he's gone! I can't even believe there is a pot luck ordinance.
This potluck nonsense isn't just a city problem, it's statewide so everyone here save a little of your venom for Slick Willie II.

During Pork Jowl Billy's first term the state passed the same kind of "potluck" law. King Marty could not be out done so he added the Albukook version to it. The American Legion, VFW, Elks, Moose Lodges, Eagles, the DAV, churches, ALL charitable organizations, have to abide by this stupid law anytime they are serving a meal and the public is invited.

This in turn has led to higher costs because the Health Department has to inspect the kitchens in these facilities and if they do not meet their standards a permit will not be issued. As the Commander of our local American Legion Post, I have had to go through this B.S. so I will lay some facts on you.

They tell you exactly what kind of freezer you have to have. A chest type or upright freezer that may be donated to you is not good enough, even if it keeps the food at -10 degrees. You have to have a certain size freezer, depending on how many you plan to feed, and it has to be a stainless steel, restaurant approved freezer. An 18 Cu. foot freezer like you have at home costs about $800 while a restaurant approved freezer with the same capacity costs around $6000. You cannot have a nice, clean electric or gas stove like we all cook on at home. This isn't good enough for the Gestapo, i.e., Health Department. You have to buy a restaurant approved monstrosity. The one we have a home costs about $800 while the other costs a little over $10,000. Then you have to have the approved range hood with proper ventilation and a fire suppression system. You also need an approved dishwasher, hot water heater, kitchen sinks, the list goes on and on.

What it boils down to is charitable organizations and churches statewide were not paying the state, and in your case Shah Marty, for the right to serve our communities. In my case, the American Legion, everything we make goes to help the needy children in our community. It's the same with all charitable organizations and churches in our state, we are just trying to help people in our little area of the world. But, because of the costs involved in serving food to the public, many have scaled down their efforts or up and quit altogether. Thanks to the stupid, ignorant, uncaring fools in Santa Fe, ALL of them, the people in our communities that need help the most are now getting less. The money charities and churches have to pay for the right to raise funds with their little potluck dinners just takes food from the mouths of those that need it the most.

And, as a little aside, I have never, ever heard of anyone getting food poisoning at a local potluck. How many times a year do you hear of people getting sick from eating at a restaurant? Don't the food police "inspect" them too?

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#24
Nov 20, 2008
 
Yesterday it was cleaning gum from the sidewalks with a new expensive machine.

Today its harrassing churches over potlucks.

Tomorrow its...
Just me

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#25
Nov 20, 2008
 
Is this a clue Mayor for life Marty is running for some office. He at least got the outcome correct on this one and that doesn't happen often. I meant never.

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#26
Nov 20, 2008
 
I think it was the public food sold at various venues like the State Fair Parade. However, this ordinance has made it very hard for our parent group at our son's church/school to participate in community activities that do not require us using the church/school kitchen. Do these ordinance writers write rough drafts before committing it to law.
If it is free, it should be an eat at your own risk ordinance. I have had worse luck with bad food at restaurants than church potlucks.
Not Right

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CornDaddy wrote:
Yesterday it was cleaning gum from the sidewalks with a new expensive machine.
Today its harrassing churches over potlucks.
Tomorrow its...
...tomorrow it's gonna be a law that you must use two-ply toilet paper in all public restrooms.

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#28
Nov 20, 2008
 
Is the city going to come after me for bbq'ing outdoors?

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Nov 20, 2008
 
Not Right wrote:
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...tomorrow it's gonna be a law that you must use two-ply toilet paper in all public restrooms.
Sorry Right, you are wrong!! It will be single ply tissue, about as thick and brittle as a dry onion skin, and you will only be allowed to use 3 squares at a time!

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#30
Nov 20, 2008
 
Dan Lindsey wrote:
STUPID ! what is the city thinking! how many churches have hurt people by their potluck!
I really think this is a Separation of Church and state issue.

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#31
Nov 20, 2008
 
Marty has been drinking too much of that bottled water with the floaties in it.
TOMFROMBURQUE

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#32
Nov 20, 2008
 
Geez, whats next. no Turkey dinners for the homesless on Thanksgiving at Joy Junction?
cookie mama

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#33
Nov 20, 2008
 
Our school holiday fall festival cake walk could only contain items from a store, no home cooked items.
Denver wrote:
This is just Aanother example of how the government has nothing better to do with its' time our OUR money. PLEASE!!! The last time I checked you could get sick eating at a restaurant just as easily as at a pot luck. Life has some risks, and eating someone elses food is one of them. For that matter eating your OWN food could be risky. What's next?...the city goes around banning bake sales for charities and the like? This is just STUPID! And why all of the sudden ofter 80+ years has it become an issue?!?!
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#34
Nov 20, 2008
 
Chavez needs to keep his nose out of the church's business.This man is a weenie.
Jason

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#35
Nov 20, 2008
 
I want to know who at the City decided to get involved and who I can vote out of office.

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Nov 20, 2008
 

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Why does this feel like a sorry attempt to force us to patronize those restaurants that just had minimum wage raised on them?

Potluck ban = Restaurant bailout

:-D
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#37
Nov 20, 2008
 
The city [Martino Chavezo] needs to clean its own back yard before it starts cleaning someone else!
Potlucks are freshly made and very tasty. They are better than restaurant prepare food! I’ll go for potlucks any time!

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#38
Nov 20, 2008
 
I believe I heard that Marty has attended this event in the past.

What I find ridiculous is that they've done it for 80 years and just now get grief for it? I'm pretty sure these people know what they're doing.

Sadly, this is what happens when there are too many trial lawyers out there. Too many Ron Bell types.

How sad that it's come to this. That you can't "help" people unless you do it with the city's permission. I'm surprised Marty's lawyers haven't gone after the homeless to make sure they've filed a 1099 form.
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What happens now with all the fiestas and county/state fairs? I don't recall seeing that food to be judged at the NM state fair had to be prepared at the fair.

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#41
Nov 20, 2008
 
I really miss posole'. My mouth is watering just thinking about a nice hot bowl with homemade tortillas.
YUMMY
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#42
Nov 20, 2008
 
screw the city
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