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JohnBoy
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cloudynm wrote: <quoted text>Your post is lewd and raw. Are you a brainwashed fox news junkie or what? This person was murdered, she didn't overdose. Keep your jackson comments on the proper thread please. And, try being a bit more sypathetic for the deceased. This person, you call him, was a man making money on the streets by posing as a woman. Referring to him as “she” doesn’t change the gender. Probably 10 percent of the "women” working the streets in ABQ are actually men. These are gay men who’ve developed a drug habit that requires turning lots of BJ tricks, at 20 bucks a pop. These trannies, ladyboys, girliemen, whatever you call them, are especially vulnerable if picked up by a macho, studly type, an Alpha male, if you will, who discovers they aren’t female, feels he’s been victimized, and proceeds to administer a severe beating or actually kills the guy. All trannies know the rules and all have been beaten before. It’s a very, very dangerous way to make money. Most of a trannie’s clients will be repeat customers who know they are men and don’t care. Every new john that approaches them is a potential big-time threat and must be carefully evaluated. Only a very desperate need for money will lead a ladyboy to even consider a new client. Believe me, most of these “girls” have their antennae up and are evaluating everything about the new guy. Most of these new customer encounters never materialize. A quick “no thanks” and she’s walking off. Something scared her off…too rough looking, too young, too dirty, too anxious, who knows? A word of wisdom…if you pick up a “girl” along Central, introduce yourself and offer your hand. If it’s a guy dressed as a girl, she’ll nearly always have big hands. An Adam’s apple is another giveaway. Just tell her you aren’t into men and she’ll get right back out of your truck without another word. You’ll be glad to be on your way and so will he. Sadly, the trannie guy will probably be the prettiest “girl” you’ve seen in weeks.
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JohnBoy wrote: <quoted text> This person, you call him, was a man making money on the streets by posing as a woman. Referring to him as “she” doesn’t change the gender. Probably 10 percent of the "women” working the streets in ABQ are actually men. These are gay men who’ve developed a drug habit that requires turning lots of BJ tricks, at 20 bucks a pop. These trannies, ladyboys, girliemen, whatever you call them, are especially vulnerable if picked up by a macho, studly type, an Alpha male, if you will, who discovers they aren’t female, feels he’s been victimized, and proceeds to administer a severe beating or actually kills the guy. All trannies know the rules and all have been beaten before. It’s a very, very dangerous way to make money. Most of a trannie’s clients will be repeat customers who know they are men and don’t care. Every new john that approaches them is a potential big-time threat and must be carefully evaluated. Only a very desperate need for money will lead a ladyboy to even consider a new client. Believe me, most of these “girls” have their antennae up and are evaluating everything about the new guy. Most of these new customer encounters never materialize. A quick “no thanks” and she’s walking off. Something scared her off…too rough looking, too young, too dirty, too anxious, who knows? A word of wisdom…if you pick up a “girl” along Central, introduce yourself and offer your hand. If it’s a guy dressed as a girl, she’ll nearly always have big hands. An Adam’s apple is another giveaway. Just tell her you aren’t into men and she’ll get right back out of your truck without another word. You’ll be glad to be on your way and so will he. Sadly, the trannie guy will probably be the prettiest “girl” you’ve seen in weeks. Spoken like a true pro at the game!
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“Nobody and Not Me”
Joined: Jun 21, 2009
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JohnBoy wrote: <quoted text> This person, you call him, was a man making money on the streets by posing as a woman. Referring to him as “she” doesn’t change the gender. Probably 10 percent of the "women” working the streets in ABQ are actually men. These are gay men who’ve developed a drug habit that requires turning lots of BJ tricks, at 20 bucks a pop. These trannies, ladyboys, girliemen, whatever you call them, are especially vulnerable if picked up by a macho, studly type, an Alpha male, if you will, who discovers they aren’t female, feels he’s been victimized, and proceeds to administer a severe beating or actually kills the guy. All trannies know the rules and all have been beaten before. It’s a very, very dangerous way to make money. Most of a trannie’s clients will be repeat customers who know they are men and don’t care. Every new john that approaches them is a potential big-time threat and must be carefully evaluated. Only a very desperate need for money will lead a ladyboy to even consider a new client. Believe me, most of these “girls” have their antennae up and are evaluating everything about the new guy. Most of these new customer encounters never materialize. A quick “no thanks” and she’s walking off. Something scared her off…too rough looking, too young, too dirty, too anxious, who knows? A word of wisdom…if you pick up a “girl” along Central, introduce yourself and offer your hand. If it’s a guy dressed as a girl, she’ll nearly always have big hands. An Adam’s apple is another giveaway. Just tell her you aren’t into men and she’ll get right back out of your truck without another word. You’ll be glad to be on your way and so will he. Sadly, the trannie guy will probably be the prettiest “girl” you’ve seen in weeks. You typed this drivel as if you're in the know. How you derived all of your 411 from the KOB article I'll never know, it does not say this lady was (turning tricks). For all I know, she came from inside of a lgbt friendly pub, was walking either to her home or car, are was assaulted. For all anyone knows, she could have met this "killer" in a pub. You must be more knowledgeable than anyone using this forum. And, just how does a female impersonator/trangendered person look and act? I know, a few were my friends in Milwaukee and Chicago. But, since you're in the know, it's a good thing your made it a point of what to look for in a transgendered person so others may be as knowledeable and worldly as yourself. Since you're so smart, imagine how it would be being beat to death. Not shot, or stabbed, beaten. This was a violent way to die, and nobody should endure being beaten to death, nobody. With nearly a homicide every day, Albuquerque is fast becoming the Murder Capital Of The USA. The APD doesn't think the two murders are linked (In the story), I might differ with their opinion and statement. It's like a hunter who is crazed and kills 10 rabbits, but that's not enough, he has to kill more, for whatever reason suits his needs at the time. I would call two murders of trnasgendered people more than not a coincidence or not related. I wouldn't rule anything out.
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JohnBoy
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cloudynm wrote: <quoted text>You typed this drivel as if you're in the know. How you derived all of your 411 from the KOB article I'll never know, it does not say this lady was (turning tricks). For all I know, she came from inside of a lgbt friendly pub, was walking either to her home or car, are was assaulted. For all anyone knows, she could have met this "killer" in a pub. You must be more knowledgeable than anyone using this forum. And, just how does a female impersonator/trangendered person look and act? I know, a few were my friends in Milwaukee and Chicago. But, since you're in the know, it's a good thing your made it a point of what to look for in a transgendered person so others may be as knowledeable and worldly as yourself. Since you're so smart, imagine how it would be being beat to death. Not shot, or stabbed, beaten. This was a violent way to die, and nobody should endure being beaten to death, nobody. With nearly a homicide every day, Albuquerque is fast becoming the Murder Capital Of The USA. The APD doesn't think the two murders are linked (In the story), I might differ with their opinion and statement. It's like a hunter who is crazed and kills 10 rabbits, but that's not enough, he has to kill more, for whatever reason suits his needs at the time. I would call two murders of trnasgendered people more than not a coincidence or not related. I wouldn't rule anything out. You’re right, cloudynm, most of my post was based on the assumption this tranny was turning gay tricks. The article tells me he was dressed as a woman and was killed down there between Sycamore and Spruce South of Central down towards that park. Drive down to that park some evening and you’ll get the shock of your life. All manner of drug and sexual activity goes on there, sometimes in broad daylight. Used condoms laying all over. Syringes laying about. Guys sitting in cars selling drugs all day long. Regardless, any man dressed as a woman out on the streets is taking a grave risk. If this guy wasn’t prostituting himself, he was looking for sex in the wrong place. You can defend the guy’s lifestyle if it pleases you, but I’m just pointing out the dangers associated with that life. The world is full of young fools thinking they’re smart enough to venture out on their own to the side streets off Central, and rapidly find themselves cast to the curbs like ordinary trash. As for being beaten to death, it can be a slow, painful event. Hopefully, unconsciousness occurs early on for some manner of relief. If the killer is particularly brutal, he’ll know how to keep you awake and suffering the entire time. If you have children, take them down on Central and point out the homeless, the transgendered, the skinny hookers with rotten teeth on their stroll, the brain-fried guy sitting at the bus stop talking to himself. These are better lessons learned than Algebra and Trig.
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BOSHIE wrote: All my life Teri was my aunt. I never judged or questioned.. She taught me not to judge others and to always be who I am. No matter who you were she would ALWAYS help in everyway she could. Im sorry some of you do not understand why she chose to live the way she did.. but I hope no judgement is bestowed on you the way you have judged her..Again thank you to all who sympathize and stick up for my aunt..Also please understand this is a differcult for our family.. and if your thoughts are negative.. realize that our family is reading these comments.. id greatly appreciate it to keep negative thoughts to yourself.. thank you.. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.. Sorry but I don’t think you understand but this blog is for any one who wants to comment on this topic in any manner they choose. I AM so sorry for your loss but it is what it is sugar. People are going to have something to say and this is the place to put it. Again, Sorry to you and your family for you loss. Il keeps you in my prayers.
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All Male wrote: <quoted text> Your the reason the saying,'keep them barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen' came about. Thats you, doll.,,, Dude, you've been had and it was easy. Just let it go already. Whether you post as All Man or Fairy Stomper you're easier to peg than a three dollar bill.
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“Nobody and Not Me”
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lol wrote: <quoted text> Dude, you've been had and it was easy. Just let it go already. Whether you post as All Man or Fairy Stomper you're easier to peg than a three dollar bill. so is lady moon and newport, both AOL users.
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“Nobody and Not Me”
Joined: Jun 21, 2009
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Newport wrote: <quoted text>Excuse me? Lots of people post from AOL. Again your detective work is very shoddy and consists of merely leaping to conclusions. I have not lept to anything. Yes, you are excused, especially if you think APD is competant enough to investigate homicides, which, in my opinion, they are not. It's my opinion they are bumbling fools, much akin to keystone cops.
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“Nobody and Not Me”
Joined: Jun 21, 2009
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Newport wrote: <quoted text>It would be irresponsible of the police to just assume it's a "serial killer" based on the connections you listed. The proper protocol is to interview everyone these two knew, because most murders are committed by someone one knows. To jump to the conclusion that it's some random serial killer would be really lazy and lousy policework. Kind of like yours. Please, turn on your television, and watch the First 48, it is on every week. http://www.aetv.com/the_first_48/video/index.... This will give you some conception of how detectives crack cases. They keep all options on the table, and never rule anything out. Stop patting yourself on the back now.
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All Male
Denver, CO
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lol wrote: <quoted text> Dude, you've been had and it was easy. Just let it go already. Whether you post as All Man or Fairy Stomper you're easier to peg than a three dollar bill. Sorry, I'm not Fairy Stomper, Guess your not as smart as you'd like to think you are, but then, it's pretty obvious.
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NMjayd
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last word wrote: Can't go walking the street and spring that kind of a suprise on your johns. Someone just might go nutzoid on you. I do find it somewhat humorous that so many are assuming these men are: Homosexual.....as statistically very few cross dressing men are homosexual, most are heterosexual. Prostitutes Who Get What They Deserve........It's not my understanding that the men WERE prostitutes, but perhaps the men on this list who comment on they deserve what they get are the men who go oustide of societal rules and buy sex, who have a homophobic fear of said prostitute being a male. Or, as in much of the psychological literature, these are the men w/homosexual natures, who are homophobic in avoidance of their homosexual tendencies. Personally, I simply think that to take another life for any means other than your or another's life being in clear, prominent, current deadly danger, is a horrific act. I particularly saddened at the families of these cross dressing men.
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NMjayd
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Lady Moon wrote: Look, pretty much everyone who gets killed in this city gets killed for hanging around with criminal types and/or being engaged in criminal activities. What this person was doing at the time of the murder and who he was involved with will tell the story. Lady Moon, I'm sorry your unable to read the newspapers, or listen to broadcasts of news involving rapes, assaults, or murder, as you seem to be unaware of the fairly large percentage of people who are assaulted by strangers. Did the woman living on or near campus st a few years ago ask the homeless man to step into her home, and rape and beat her to death when she opened her door at his knock? Where the kids in the park minding their own business assaulted by a criminal gang group who tried to rape his girlfriend, and killed him when he intervened....were they criminal? How about the elderly realtor killed on a home show by a stranger? How about the thousands of rapes that go unreported by women from strangers AND on dates? Are those raped women all criminals too? How about the murdered children of Albuqurque? Are they all criminals or hanging with criminals at 4 months or 17 months of age?
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NMjayd
United States
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All Male wrote: <quoted text> Your the reason the saying,'keep them barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen' came about. Thats you, doll.,,, And All MALE, your chosen name is the reason you're insecurity as a male is so crystal CLEAR. The majority of men don't consider themselves as partially male, or doubt their masculinity, therefor have no reason to specify they are ALL male.*Grin*
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“Nobody and Not Me”
Joined: Jun 21, 2009
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Newport wrote: <quoted text> Bish, plz. I obviously don't need any information from you on how "detectives crack cases." And I never said that they should rule anything out, I was responding to the knee-jerkers in this thread who are insisting it's a serial killer and that the police should also leap to that conclusion automatically. Here is an exact quote from this thread: "How about the police get off their **** and assume there is a connection until proven otherwise?" Life is not usually an episode of 'Criminal Minds.' As I pointed out, a) it's the other way around. You investigate the victims as individuals first and then work outward if need be, and b) the police are already "off their **** " because they have already investigated enough to determine Benally was meeting someone online, had no prostitution arrests, etc. As for your personal issues with police, that just tells me that you are likely on the wrong side of the law. Law-abiding citizens apprectiate the police and I have found the Albuquerque police to be fantastic. I'm on the wrong side of the law. Hmm, that's a good one. Assume means exactly what it says. ASS of U and ME (assume) you use it often. My issue with APD? I only know from what I see and hear of them, maybe citizens should start at the top and get rid of Chavez first, then work their way down through the police ranks and give it a good cleaning. When 2 people are murdered, and have similar lifestyles, you look for a pattern, seems the APD is oblivious to patterns. Please stop assuming. It make you look like you know alot, when in reality, you're just trading jabs.
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“Nobody and Not Me”
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"You investigate the victims as individuals first and then work outward if need be," NO. Please watch the first 48, and you will see how GOOD DEECTIVES work. A. First look for forensic evidence at the scene. B. The APD is probably bungling this ivestigation much in the same way they're bungling the west mesa homicides.
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NMjayd
United States
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cloudynm wrote: "You investigate the victims as individuals first and then work outward if need be," NO. Please watch the first 48, and you will see how GOOD DEECTIVES work. A. First look for forensic evidence at the scene. B. The APD is probably bungling this ivestigation much in the same way they're bungling the west mesa homicides. Cloudy in NM, I do very much agree that the APD is unwilling to consider multiple murders of a similar profile as similar. Or maybe they only choose to do so when the victim is NOT Queer, Transexual, or Prostitutes.*shrug* I just don't know...but their lack of willingness to actually investigate and refuse to consider all options is certainly apparent. I also agree re their bungling crime scenes. That's been evident in trial after trial, or, at the least, shown in what they FAILED to do in assessing crime scenes or in thier investigations. I can personally speak to the APD WILLINGNESS to arrest individuals they consider marginal in society, i.e. homeless, and they certainly, by the look of the inside of the jails, i.e. ethnicities in our Albquerque and Bernalillo County Jail, arrest based on cthnicity. By the way, I was seeing the inside of the jail from a professional, not a personal capacity.*S* I think often on one particular case where someone called 911 when someone was being assaulted and raped. The officers evidently found the victim to be of no interest, or judged that they were "just" a druggie, I think. They both failed to, and refused to, take a report on the assualt, or the rape, or to "notice" the blood and evidence smeared everywhere throughout the apartment. The firm identity of the rapist was known. "I" could of collected enough evidence, both pictuary and secretions, and verbal interviews to of had the rapist at least charged with felony assault, rape, and holding a hostage charges. I estimate to do so would of taken approximately 2 hours. But APD simply had no interest in it, nor was I able to GET them to be interested in this individual as a victim. Multiply this times every crime in the city, and I wonder what could be done to clean up the city if the police did their jobs thoroughly and ethically, the prosecuters and the defense vigorously and knowledgeably, and ehtically pursued legal options, and if our Medical Examiners office, which can take up to 4 or more months to come up with a autopsy death certificate, and again and again comes up with no conclusive manner of death.....if all this were clicking and humming along? Who knows. It would certainly be a different city. We DO have a higher murder rate than most cities, including New York City, etc.
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JohnBoy
Maurepas, LA
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NMjayd wrote: <quoted text> I do find it somewhat humorous that so many are assuming these men are: Homosexual.....as statistically very few cross dressing men are homosexual, most are heterosexual. Prostitutes Who Get What They Deserve........It's not my understanding that the men WERE prostitutes, but perhaps the men on this list who comment on they deserve what they get are the men who go oustide of societal rules and buy sex, who have a homophobic fear of said prostitute being a male. Or, as in much of the psychological literature, these are the men w/homosexual natures, who are homophobic in avoidance of their homosexual tendencies. Personally, I simply think that to take another life for any means other than your or another's life being in clear, prominent, current deadly danger, is a horrific act. I particularly saddened at the families of these cross dressing men. Sure, crossdressers are mostly hetero. However, they usually hang out at home all dressed up, or get together with like males and act like girls. Some will even venture out in public, I imagine. But, most of the ones who get murdered are homosexual trannies who are making a living and financing a drug habit by selling themselves on the streets. I'm not saying it's right to kill a trannie, but imagine the shock a man gets after making out with what he thinks is a woman and finds a little package he wasn't expecting. A few busted out teeth are certainly in order. And, it doesn't mean you're homophobic...you're just pissed off. That's how men are. Get over it.
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“Nobody and Not Me”
Joined: Jun 21, 2009
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NMjayd wrote: <quoted text> Cloudy in NM, I do very much agree that the APD is unwilling to consider multiple murders of a similar profile as similar. Or maybe they only choose to do so when the victim is NOT ****, Transexual, or Prostitutes.*shrug* I just don't know...but their lack of willingness to actually investigate and refuse to consider all options is certainly apparent. I also agree re their bungling crime scenes. That's been evident in trial after trial, or, at the least, shown in what they FAILED to do in assessing crime scenes or in thier investigations. I can personally speak to the APD WILLINGNESS to arrest individuals they consider marginal in society, i.e. homeless, and they certainly, by the look of the inside of the jails, i.e. ethnicities in our Albquerque and Bernalillo County Jail, arrest based on cthnicity. By the way, I was seeing the inside of the jail from a professional, not a personal capacity.*S* I think often on one particular case where someone called 911 when someone was being assaulted and raped. The officers evidently found the victim to be of no interest, or judged that they were "just" a druggie, I think. They both failed to, and refused to, take a report on the assualt, or the rape, or to "notice" the blood and evidence smeared everywhere throughout the apartment. The firm identity of the rapist was known. "I" could of collected enough evidence, both pictuary and secretions, and verbal interviews to of had the rapist at least charged with felony assault, rape, and holding a hostage charges. I estimate to do so would of taken approximately 2 hours. But APD simply had no interest in it, nor was I able to GET them to be interested in this individual as a victim. Multiply this times every crime in the city, and I wonder what could be done to clean up the city if the police did their jobs thoroughly and ethically, the prosecuters and the defense vigorously and knowledgeably, and ehtically pursued legal options, and if our Medical Examiners office, which can take up to 4 or more months to come up with a autopsy death certificate, and again and again comes up with no conclusive manner of death.....if all this were clicking and humming along? Who knows. It would certainly be a different city. We DO have a higher murder rate than most cities, including New York City, etc. Not that this particular case has anything to do with this case at all, http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_kil... but the police acted in nearly the same fashion of which you speak, meanwhile, little did anyone know, this person was not only a serial killer, but he dismembered people and actually had some very, very strange Idiosyncrascies. This is not why I posted my opinions about APD. The reasons I posted is because it is well known the APD are a bunch of bunglers. It's been media news for a long time. APD is almost as bad as LA County and LA PD. Instead of going through a crime scene meticulously, they're probably stumbling over clues and destroying key evidence. I think it was a bad idea for APD spokeperson to even come out and say they thought it (the perpetrator) was an internet acquaintance. I know if I were a police spokesperson, I would not tip my hand to any evidence that might have been found. And, I would not jump to conclusions in saying the other murder or murders were not related. How do they know that they're not? Nonetheless, I wouldn't have said anything as a spokesperson. KOB.com should be blasted for their headline too. I have known several transexuals, and proper etiquette does not precede the sensationalism of which they're dubious for. Transexuals are female, as far as I'm concerned. KOB.com has no pride in journalism.
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the elements
Albuquerque, NM
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NMjayd wrote: <quoted text> I can personally speak to the APD WILLINGNESS to arrest individuals they consider marginal in society, i.e. homeless, and they certainly, by the look of the inside of the jails, i.e. ethnicities in our Albquerque and Bernalillo County Jail, arrest based on cthnicity. By the way, I was seeing the inside of the jail from a professional, not a personal capacity.*S* I think often on one particular case where someone called 911 when someone was being assaulted and raped. The officers evidently found the victim to be of no interest, or judged that they were "just" a druggie, I think. They both failed to, and refused to, take a report on the assualt, or the rape, or to "notice" the blood and evidence smeared everywhere throughout the apartment. The firm identity of the rapist was known. "I" could of collected enough evidence, both pictuary and secretions, and verbal interviews to of had the rapist at least charged with felony assault, rape, and holding a hostage charges. I estimate to do so would of taken approximately 2 hours. But APD simply had no interest in it, nor was I able to GET them to be interested in this individual as a victim. Multiply this times every crime in the city, and I wonder what could be done to clean up the city if the police did their jobs thoroughly and ethically, the prosecuters and the defense vigorously and knowledgeably, and ehtically pursued legal options, and if our Medical Examiners office, which can take up to 4 or more months to come up with a autopsy death certificate, and again and again comes up with no conclusive manner of death.....if all this were clicking and humming along? Who knows. It would certainly be a different city. We DO have a higher murder rate than most cities, including New York City, etc. I would like to add to this that most recently there was a prostitiute that was murdered behind a dumpster off Central, near Presbyterian. An aquaintance of mine lives near where this woman was murdered. She often witnessed this woman "working" the alley. My aquaintance told me that she called the police on several occasions to check on the woman, but the police would not come. The night she was murdered, my aquaintance heard the woman screaming while she was sleeping. I believe that it is the same person, and we should not rule out the possibly that we do have a serial killer. If we didn't, I don't think we would continue to have women, of a particular lifestyle, killed up to now. The perp could have possibly mistaken the two trannies as women prostitutes and just did the same to them as he did to all the rest.
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JohnBoy
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Newport wrote: <quoted text>Yeah, you're definitely a lowlife criminal, who else hates police? And, no, the two victims did NOT have similar lifestyles, as friends of Benally have stated here over and over. You are a bigot to say they did. The guy murdered last month was a guy, who dressed in women's clothes to prositute himself on Central for drugs. He had been arrested for prostitution 4 times prior to his death. He lived as a man and only dressed as a female to turn tricks. Benally, on the other hand, was a fulltime female. She lived and worked as a woman for many years in a respectable job. One victim was male, one was female. One was a criminal, one was an upstanding citizen. One was killed hooking, one was killed meeting someone she thought she knew. Again, you are a bigot who does not even know the difference between a trannie prostitute and a contributing member of society who happened to be a transwoman. How can you come on this thread and call a guy a “lowlife criminal” and a “bigot”? Where are your manners? Are you a trannie yourself and just being sympathetic towards that lifestyle? I have a feeling you are at least gay, and can’t stand anything negative about gays. How do you know the first trannie “lived as a man” and only dressed as a woman to turn tricks? And what makes you think Benally was a fulltime female. Benally is an American Indian name and it’s my guess he was ostracized and maybe felt unwelcome among his own people. Living as a gay dude is a lot easier in ABQ than say, Acoma Pueblo. Regardless, a guy dressed up like a girl is taking huge risks whether he’s hooking on Central or meeting guys on Craig’s List. And, ladyboy types are especially vulnerable. They are almost always feminine and easy prey. Even if he advertised himself as a trannie on Craig’s List, the danger is still there. Lastly, why do you insist on calling Benally a female and an upstanding citizen? Legally, a guy becomes a woman only after having his sexual organs removed. Now, if you know that to be true, you’re closer to the deceased that I care to know.
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