Murdered man dressed as a woman

Get That Fool wrote:

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Is Ms. Marion Morrison really Mr. John Wayne?

OMG!! "Get That Fool" has outed THE DUKE!!

On a more serious note, GTF, my fem name is "Marion," which is a "bi" name, like "Carol," "Leslie," "Evelyn" and "Sue." Given the subject of my reply as it relates to handguns, I used the nom de guerre, "Marion Morrison," which to your credit you recognized as the given name of John Wayne.

While John Wayne is not one of my favorite actors, I must say that he can certainly shoot straight. We transgendered must learn to shoot straight, as no amount of laws or demonstrations or protests will protect us from mutants who assault, attack and murder us. We must protect ourselves. It is our right and duty to protect ourselves.

Therefore, I want as many TGs to carry handguns to protect themselves. When this "armed faction of the transgendered community" stops attacks or, preferably blows away a few mutants, with their handguns, I will bet that these mutants will think twice before attacking another "perverted fag in a dress," as they ask themselves, is "it" armed and dangerous? Will I be lucky?

Will you join me, GTF, in advocating the arming of our community to defend itself from violent attacks and possible murder?

We will make The Duke proud.

cloudynm wrote:

A 22 to the groin would stop most wouldbe attackers, plus, it's smaller, lighter and easier to conceal than a 38. Plus, it's a close match to most girls' waist size too.
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Cloudynm, please quickly tell me where I can get that weapon I saw at your link. It looks sooo cute! But you lost me on the "girls' waist size match."

As for the advantages of a 22 vs. a 38, I must admit I have no first hand knowledge, as you seem to have. My concern, however, is whether in the heat of the moment can someone aim at the groin? And can a 22 stop an attacker from, say, five feet away? And since a 38 gun is, I imagine, bigger than a 22 gun, which will look more intimidating and drive off the attacker(s)? Driving away attackers might be preferable to shooting them. If you actually shoot someone and his blood falls on you, do you know hard it is to remove blood stains from chiffon?

On a related matter, as I asked "Get That Fool" in a previous post, I will also ask you, Cloudynm. Will you join me, in advocating the arming of our community to defend itself from violent attacks and possible murder? I think it will be a worthwhile cause.

Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

Fed Up wrote:

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Wow, you really get uptight about something that don't amount to a hill of beans. Actually, nobody I know would want to check your bloomers. Be scared of what might jump out. You seem to be very worried about what people think, if you don't like the way things are here, give it a few years, we're becoming more like NY all the time. Seems like ya'll want to move out here cause you don't like it back there and then want to change it out here cause it was so much better back there. And out here, people say what they think and believe, go home and tell someone there how they should think and behave, you can be catorgized with the cross-dressers, and have no place among sane people.

Perhaps if someone from your family were murdered for who they were it would amount to something then? Just because it was a trans woman who was killed makes it "something that don't amount to a hill of beans"? If one of yours was murdered and people showed little or no respect to the dead, would that then be significant?

Don't you get it? A human being, an aunt, a sister perhaps, a daughter, was violently ripped out of life and family. How does that not register with you?

I have a .22 cal revolver but I'm thinking of selling it and using the money towards a 9mm semi-auto. Something like a Sig-Sauer or Baretta. They are bigger and heavier but they carry a lot more punch and a bigger magazine. I'll just use larger purses to carry it in.

On the nights that formal wear is required I was thinking of getting a .25 auto. Just as tiny as a .22 but with a bit more punch. My gramma carried a Walther Model 9,.25 cal. Too bad my dad got rid of it when she died.

Emelye Waldherr wrote:

I have a .22 cal revolver but I'm thinking of selling it and using the money towards a 9mm semi-auto. Something like a Sig-Sauer or Baretta. They are bigger and heavier but they carry a lot more punch and a bigger magazine. I'll just use larger purses to carry it in.
On the nights that formal wear is required I was thinking of getting a .25 auto. Just as tiny as a .22 but with a bit more punch. My gramma carried a Walther Model 9,.25 cal. Too bad my dad got rid of it when she died.

Good for you, Emelye. I taught my daughters to carry a gun everywhere they went. Like they say, better to be judged by 12, then carried by 6. And, nothing wrong with a .22...the small diameter lends itself to penetration well, then it kinda squirrels around in the body causing great internal damage. If the bastard don't die right away, he'll hurt like hell.

My girls carried those .25 autos, but weren't really comfortable with the auto action. I had them switch to a snub-nose Ruger .38, 5-shot revolver. Fires every time you pull the trigger. No fretting with the slide and safety in a moment of stress. Besides, a revolver doesn't throw empty brass out on the ground for CSI types to find with your finger prints on them.

Keep in mind, if you pull your gun out, be prepared to use it, and sometimes just a round fired into the air or ground will suffice to deter some dirtbag. Good luck.

Emelye Waldherr wrote:

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Perhaps if someone from your family were murdered for who they were it would amount to something then? Just because it was a trans woman who was killed makes it "something that don't amount to a hill of beans"? If one of yours was murdered and people showed little or no respect to the dead, would that then be significant?
Don't you get it? A human being, an aunt, a sister perhaps, a daughter, was violently ripped out of life and family. How does that not register with you?

None of my family are weirdos, and if they were they would be on their own.

Ms Marion Morrison wrote:

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Cloudynm, please quickly tell me where I can get that weapon I saw at your link. It looks sooo cute! But you lost me on the "girls' waist size match."
As for the advantages of a 22 vs. a 38, I must admit I have no first hand knowledge, as you seem to have. My concern, however, is whether in the heat of the moment can someone aim at the groin? And can a 22 stop an attacker from, say, five feet away? And since a 38 gun is, I imagine, bigger than a 22 gun, which will look more intimidating and drive off the attacker(s)? Driving away attackers might be preferable to shooting them. If you actually shoot someone and his blood falls on you, do you know hard it is to remove blood stains from chiffon?
On a related matter, as I asked "Get That Fool" in a previous post, I will also ask you, Cloudynm. Will you join me, in advocating the arming of our community to defend itself from violent attacks and possible murder? I think it will be a worthwhile cause.
Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

Actually, I do not advocate violence. I thought that for you ladies who might consider carrying a concealable, the .22 is much easier to hide, and handle. Most of the ladies I knew in milwaukee and chicago had 22 inch waists, some were larger, but not by much, and I did have some larger queenie friends too.

What I will advocate here for you lassies is be careful of who you meet on the internet. The internet is and can be a dangerous place to meet men. So, you're asking, where can I meet a nice guy? My advice is a LGBT friendly pub, night club. But, don't swing with the first man you meet, and do do anything with him the first time/first meeting. Choose a neutral ground daylight meeting place where people are about, until you get to know him, or, at least until you reach a comfort level zone with him. Then, maybe open your wings to him. I don't want to say don't trust anybody, but you girls have to be cautious. Not evey man you'll meet has YOUR best interests in mind. Since I am a man, I know what men are after, and it doesn't matter if men are single or married, they're out to get what they want, and some will be one timers. Men can be a holes.

I don't know whre you can find a weapon as such. You might try local guns shows, because you can easily acquire a pistol, and you may not have to go thru the registration process, if that is a concern.

A well placed .22 can kill a person, or leave them messed up for a long time. I would only use a firearm if my life were in danger. This is the one and only time a firearm should be used, to protect your own life. A firearm should never be used to "intimidate" someone. You use it accordingly, but, be advised, you could suffer the consequences of being charged with assault with a deadly weapon, or even worse, murder/homicide. While considering the downside of using a firearm for protection, there are other things girls can do to avoid bad situations, such as screening your date very carefully. A .22 cal. can have a range of up to 1.5 miles.

Yes, blood is difficult to get out of almost anything. You can try to wash it away, but good forensic scientists and investigators can find traces even when it is washed away.

I'm sorry, I will not join you in arming your community. I am a washed up old man, who moved to New Mexico with health problems, and now, life is too short for me to get involved. I just wish to live out my final days in peace and quiet, and enjoy the beautiful scenery, the hot sun, cool nights, and peer at the galaxies at night. I'll try to maintain an open mind in my travels. BTW, nice and funny response.

Ms Marion Morrison wrote:

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OMG!! "Get That Fool" has outed THE DUKE!!
On a more serious note, GTF, my fem name is "Marion," which is a "bi" name, like "Carol," "Leslie," "Evelyn" and "Sue." Given the subject of my reply as it relates to handguns, I used the nom de guerre, "Marion Morrison," which to your credit you recognized as the given name of John Wayne.
While John Wayne is not one of my favorite actors, I must say that he can certainly shoot straight. We transgendered must learn to shoot straight, as no amount of laws or demonstrations or protests will protect us from mutants who assault, attack and murder us. We must protect ourselves. It is our right and duty to protect ourselves.
Therefore, I want as many TGs to carry handguns to protect themselves. When this "armed faction of the transgendered community" stops attacks or, preferably blows away a few mutants, with their handguns, I will bet that these mutants will think twice before attacking another "perverted **** in a dress," as they ask themselves, is "it" armed and dangerous? Will I be lucky?
Will you join me, GTF, in advocating the arming of our community to defend itself from violent attacks and possible murder?
We will make The Duke proud.

Negative, I'm for gun control. Sorry.

Ms Marion Morrison wrote:

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OMG!! "Get That Fool" has outed THE DUKE!!
On a more serious note, GTF, my fem name is "Marion," which is a "bi" name, like "Carol," "Leslie," "Evelyn" and "Sue." Given the subject of my reply as it relates to handguns, I used the nom de guerre, "Marion Morrison," which to your credit you recognized as the given name of John Wayne.
While John Wayne is not one of my favorite actors, I must say that he can certainly shoot straight. We transgendered must learn to shoot straight, as no amount of laws or demonstrations or protests will protect us from mutants who assault, attack and murder us. We must protect ourselves. It is our right and duty to protect ourselves.
Therefore, I want as many TGs to carry handguns to protect themselves. When this "armed faction of the transgendered community" stops attacks or, preferably blows away a few mutants, with their handguns, I will bet that these mutants will think twice before attacking another "perverted **** in a dress," as they ask themselves, is "it" armed and dangerous? Will I be lucky?
Will you join me, GTF, in advocating the arming of our community to defend itself from violent attacks and possible murder?
We will make The Duke proud.

You are one sick puppy. John Wayne would be turning in his grave to think the likes of something like you, would want to be like him. And if think it's so important to be a 'straight shooter' be what you were supposed to be. Defending yourself is fine, but just be honest about who you really are. Even in your dream world you really want to be a man, or you wouldn't connect yourself with someone like John wayne. Does reality scare you?

cloudynm wrote:

<quoted text>Actually, I do not advocate violence.

What I will advocate here for you lassies is be careful of who you meet on the internet.

I don't know whre you can find a weapon as such. You might try local guns shows, because you can easily acquire a pistol, and you may not have to go thru the registration process, if that is a concern.
A well placed .22 can kill a person, or leave them messed up for a long time. I would only use a firearm if my life were in danger. This is the one and only time a firearm should be used, to protect your own life. A firearm should never be used to "intimidate" someone. You use it accordingly, but, be advised, you could suffer the consequences of being charged with assault with a deadly weapon, or even worse, murder/homicide. While considering the downside of using a firearm for protection, there are other things girls can do to avoid bad situations, such as screening your date very carefully. A .22 cal. can have a range of up to 1.5 miles.

I'm sorry, I will not join you in arming your community. I am a washed up old man, who moved to New Mexico with health problems, and now, life is too short for me to get involved. I just wish to live out my final days in peace and quiet, and enjoy the beautiful scenery, the hot sun, cool nights, and peer at the galaxies at night. I'll try to maintain an open mind in my travels. BTW, nice and funny response.

Cloudynm,

Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

I'm glad you don't advocate violence. Neither do I. I am, however, not a pacifist. I advocate the use of violence, specifically through the use of handguns, to defend ourselves from violent attacks that can lead to murder. I want to meet violence with violence. As I said previously, a handgun is the most effective and efficient means to do this. It is our right and duty to protect and defend ourselves from these mutants. Mutants who attack us need to know they cannot continue to do so with impunity. As the cliche goes, "we need to send a message."

Your suggestions for us "ladies" to be careful with whom we meet on the Internet are well taken. But sometimes you can't be too careful and you need to be prepared for surprises, such as mutants who drive by, stop, and leave their car with baseball bats to do what, ask you to be their catcher?

You're correct to point out the downsides of using a firearm for protection. And I certainly agree that guns should not be used to intimidate. When you pull it out, you must be ready to use it--without hesitation. I also agree that you use a gun only to protect your life. But how do you decide when to protect your life? After two blows to the head? After your face gets slashed? Is there a "default" number of punches mutants are allowed before you can shoot the mutants?

Still, using a gun for protection can lead to complexities, but as the saying goes, "better to be judged by 12, than be carried by 6." I still feel that if more TGs defend themselves with handguns, there will be fewer attacks and murders.

As for your being "washed out," I hardly think you are. Perhaps you're down with health problems, but you're certainly not out. "It ain't over, till it's over." And I'm glad you liked my "nice and funny response."

Thanks again for your thoughtful reply. Take care.

Get That Fool wrote:

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I'm for gun control.

I'm sorry to hear that. But thanks for replying.

Ms Marion Morrison wrote:

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Cloudynm,
Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
I'm glad you don't advocate violence. Neither do I. I am, however, not a pacifist. I advocate the use of violence, specifically through the use of handguns, to defend ourselves from violent attacks that can lead to murder. I want to meet violence with violence. As I said previously, a handgun is the most effective and efficient means to do this. It is our right and duty to protect and defend ourselves from these mutants. Mutants who attack us need to know they cannot continue to do so with impunity. As the cliche goes, "we need to send a message."
Your suggestions for us "ladies" to be careful with whom we meet on the Internet are well taken. But sometimes you can't be too careful and you need to be prepared for surprises, such as mutants who drive by, stop, and leave their car with baseball bats to do what, ask you to be their catcher?
You're correct to point out the downsides of using a firearm for protection. And I certainly agree that guns should not be used to intimidate. When you pull it out, you must be ready to use it--without hesitation. I also agree that you use a gun only to protect your life. But how do you decide when to protect your life? After two blows to the head? After your face gets slashed? Is there a "default" number of punches mutants are allowed before you can shoot the mutants?
Still, using a gun for protection can lead to complexities, but as the saying goes, "better to be judged by 12, than be carried by 6." I still feel that if more TGs defend themselves with handguns, there will be fewer attacks and murders.
As for your being "washed out," I hardly think you are. Perhaps you're down with health problems, but you're certainly not out. "It ain't over, till it's over." And I'm glad you liked my "nice and funny response."
Thanks again for your thoughtful reply. Take care.

I think a person has the right to defend themself.

Fed Up wrote:

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You are one sick puppy. John Wayne would be turning in his grave to think the likes of something like you, would want to be like him. And if think it's so important to be a 'straight shooter' be what you were supposed to be. Defending yourself is fine, but just be honest about who you really are. Even in your dream world you really want to be a man, or you wouldn't connect yourself with someone like John wayne. Does reality scare you?

FedEx,

Thank you for your thoughtful, if somewhat incoherent reply, in which you said, partly:

<< You are one sick puppy.>>

I'm confused. Why do you assume I'm of the canine species? FYI, I am of the human species, as I presume you are as well. You also said I was a "sick puppy." Are you a veterinarian? If so, pray tell, how were you able to determine I was sick? Did you take my temperature over the Internet? Did you find me with fever? Did you step in a pile of diarrhea and diagnosed it as part of my sickness? I don't suppose you took a remote MRI of me, did you? They sure don't make vets the way they use to.

Anyhow, FedEx, you then said THE DUKE would turn in his grave, which I suppose you meant he would be offended, when he thinks "the likes of something like [me], would want to be like him." You are incorrect. I do not want to be like him. I only want to shoot as straight as he does in his movies.

And what is it about "the likes of something like [me]" that you believe THE DUKE would find so offensive?

You continued:

<< And if [you] think it's so important to be a 'straight shooter' be what you were supposed to be. >>

You lost me here, pal.

<< Defending yourself is fine, but just be honest about who you really are. >>

Non sequitur. Does not compute.

<< Even in your dream world you really want to be a man, or you wouldn't connect yourself with someone like John Wayne.>>

FedEx, you continue to discombobulate me. It seems you continue to think I'm of the canine species as you now accuse of me of dreaming to "really want to be a man." I remind you again, I am of the human species. Besides, why would I want to dream to be a man, only "to connect [myself] with someone like John Wayne"? And please stop taking THE DUKE's name in vain. He may not be my favorite actor, but he deserves respect.

You end by plaintively asking:

<< Does reality scare you?>>

I'm afraid to answer. What reality are YOU talking about?[Theme from "Twilight Zone" begins.]

Anyhow, FedEx, I thank you again for your thoughtful, if somewhat incoherent reply. I await your next reply which I hope will be more coherent and with my questions answered. BTW, I know a colleague whose French Poodle has taken ill. Shall I refer him to you?

M. M.

Ms Marion Morrison wrote:

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I'm sorry to hear that. But thanks for replying.

If you don't mind my asking, what does your family think of your decisions?

Ms Marion Morrison wrote:

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FedEx,
Thank you for your thoughtful, if somewhat incoherent reply, in which you said, partly:
<< You are one sick puppy.>>
I'm confused. Why do you assume I'm of the canine species? FYI, I am of the human species, as I presume you are as well. You also said I was a "sick puppy." Are you a veterinarian? If so, pray tell, how were you able to determine I was sick? Did you take my temperature over the Internet? Did you find me with fever? Did you step in a pile of diarrhea and diagnosed it as part of my sickness? I don't suppose you took a remote MRI of me, did you? They sure don't make vets the way they use to.
Anyhow, FedEx, you then said THE DUKE would turn in his grave, which I suppose you meant he would be offended, when he thinks "the likes of something like [me], would want to be like him." You are incorrect. I do not want to be like him. I only want to shoot as straight as he does in his movies.
And what is it about "the likes of something like [me]" that you believe THE DUKE would find so offensive?
You continued:
<< And if [you] think it's so important to be a 'straight shooter' be what you were supposed to be. >>
You lost me here, pal.
<< Defending yourself is fine, but just be honest about who you really are. >>
Non sequitur. Does not compute.
<< Even in your dream world you really want to be a man, or you wouldn't connect yourself with someone like John Wayne.>>
FedEx, you continue to discombobulate me. It seems you continue to think I'm of the canine species as you now accuse of me of dreaming to "really want to be a man." I remind you again, I am of the human species. Besides, why would I want to dream to be a man, only "to connect [myself] with someone like John Wayne"? And please stop taking THE DUKE's name in vain. He may not be my favorite actor, but he deserves respect.
You end by plaintively asking:
<< Does reality scare you?>>
I'm afraid to answer. What reality are YOU talking about?[Theme from "Twilight Zone" begins.]
Anyhow, FedEx, I thank you again for your thoughtful, if somewhat incoherent reply. I await your next reply which I hope will be more coherent and with my questions answered. BTW, I know a colleague whose French Poodle has taken ill. Shall I refer him to you?
M. M.

Actually, referring to you as a sick puppy, they usually mount anything. And yeah, John Wayne would really take offense of you refering to yourself as related to him on the internet. Keep your french ball of fluff, you probably have a good relationship with it. Boy, how you do rattle on, must really like to hear yourself talk, huh?
Maybe cause nobody else pays much attention.
The point being, the 'guy' who got killed really had a problem, as do you. No, I don't think it was right to beat 'him' to death, but then, I wasn't there, I don't know what happened. Maybe
somebody said the wrong thing at the wrong time.
Being deseptive can get you hurt, not everybody is going to be open and appreciative of finding out 'the joke', and how do you know it was a guy who beat this person? Maybe it was an orangutang.

Get That Fool wrote:

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If you don't mind my asking, what does your family think of your decisions?

Get That Fool,

Thank you for your reply.

No, I don't mind your asking any question about my personal life, as my life is an "open book," entitled, "Gone With the Wind."

But, pray tell, what "decisions" do you want to know that my family "think" about? Please be as specific as you can, and name as many as you like.

I will be delighted to answer all your queries.

Take care.

M. M.

cloudynm wrote:

<quoted text>I think a person has the right to defend themself.

Cloudynm,
I'm glad you feel this way. But I would be elated if you also feel that it's the DUTY of every person to defend themselves.
BTW, when did you arrive at your, what, epiphany?
Thanks for your comments.
Take care.
M. M.

Ms Marion Morrison wrote:

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Cloudynm,
I'm glad you feel this way. But I would be elated if you also feel that it's the DUTY of every person to defend themselves.
BTW, when did you arrive at your, what, epiphany?
Thanks for your comments.
Take care.
M. M.

epiphany

That my friend would be a long drivel, and would be quite off topic. Too bad your profile isn't completed, we might be able to exch emails.

Fed UP wrote:

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Actually, referring to you as a sick puppy ....

FedEx,

Thank you for your prompt and thoughtful reply. I apologize for my tardy reply.

You began:

<< Actually, referring to you as a sick puppy, they usually mount anything. >>

You have a syntax problem here. You should fault your Harvard English professors. Still, I imagine you know from first hand knowledge that puppies "usually mount anything." This means you let puppies flick you anally. You appear to describe this practice of "bestiality" as "sick." Too bad. But rest assured, I make no judgments; "whatever floats your boat."

Still, you fans of bestiality, puzzle me. What is so erotic about letting a dog flick you? Do you let other animals flick you? A horse? A pig? How about a kangaroo? Been "down under" lately?

<< Keep your french ball of fluff, you probably have a good relationship with it. >>

You're referring to the French Poodle I previously mentioned. It belonged to my colleague and it's a male. I wonder: when male dogs flick you, are those dogs gay? And if you were you hoping that I "have a good relationship with" a dog, I must tell you bestiality is not "my thing."

<< And yeah, John Wayne would really take offense of you refering to yourself as related to him on the internet. >>

FedEx, you previously said this differently. I asked why you believed this, although I told you, "I do not want to be like him. I only want to shoot as straight as he does in his movies." Your current reply offers no answer. Indeed, it's an example of "circular reasoning." Your Harvard English professor could explain.

<< Boy, how you do rattle on, must really like to hear yourself talk, huh? Maybe cause nobody else pays much attention. >>

Actually, I love to hear myself talk. And I don't give a rat's ass (easy, boy, I meant nothing sexual) if "nobody else pays much attention" here, or even if NO ONE reads our replies! It's between you and me, pal. "Mano a mano." Comprende?

You continued:

<< The point being, the 'guy' who got killed really had a problem, as do you. >>

FedEx, are you concerned with people who "really had a problem"? What problem do you believe this 'guy' had? And, Lord help me, I don't have "a problem"; I have "problems." If you're really concerned with people with problems, you can help by paying my long overdue mortgage.

<< No, I don't think it was right to beat 'him' to death, but then, I wasn't there, I don't know what happened. Maybe somebody said the wrong thing at the wrong time. >>

FedEx, that was big of you to say that you didn't think "it was right to beat 'him' to death." But if you were there and if you did know what happened, would YOU then decide whether it was "right" to beat this human being to death?

<< Being deseptive can get you hurt, not everybody is going to be open and appreciative of finding out 'the joke'... >>

I'll bet you tried to have sex with a human female (nothing like a little variety, right?), but the "female" had a penis and you weren't "appreciative of finding out 'the joke.' " How did you respond to that "joke"? Before you answer, be warned that the local constabulary might be listening. BTW, is this "joke" why you're so hostile to trans people?

< ...but and how do you know it was a guy who beat this person? Maybe it was an orangutang. >>

That's an interesting theory. I understand from "National Geographic" that male orangutans have large, colorful penises. I don't suppose you've made it with orangutans.

We've come to the end, FedEx. Thank you again for you prompt and thoughtful reply. I leave you with two questions: 1) Why, again, do you believe THE DUKE would "really take offense of [me] refering to [myself] as related to him .. "? and 2) What lubricant do you apply to non-human penises before you anally receive them?