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#1294 Jun 21, 2012
Abdurratln wrote:
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Whoa! Stop right there. Angela Davis? She is certifiable "gay" and plumb stupid and irreleavnt to anything I am interested in. Actually, I should have stopped you at the Dubios non-sense. For example, what did Dubois ever do with his philosophy degree that benefited the African Nation? Where is his legacy. I mean, dude lived to be nearly 100 years old. What did he leave the world other than somse stupid poetry that nobody reads? And those who try to read it cannot get much of anyhting out of it.
Compare Dubois with Booker T. Washinbgton in order to see this thing more clearly. Washington had about a middle school degree in hard sciences, not liberal arts. Yet his legacy is the National Chamber of Commerce, the National Urban League and Tuskegee University, the ONLY university that has always been 100% owned and operated by Africans. His Collective Works alone consist on about 50 or more volumes of books. And he lived into his 50's slightly more than half as long as Dubois lived.
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Hold up again. Baraka? You gotta be kidding. What has he ever done aside from write incomprehensible and stupid poerty?
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Cannot knock Fanon. He at least showed us how to fight in guerrilla warfare. But, his psychology never interested me much, excpet in terms of psychological warfare.
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LOOOOOL!!!! What did Angela Davis "shake"? Her big flat lesbiaan butt?
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I prefer historical and materialist thinking.( http://www.panafricanperspective.com/ture2.ht... ) I am aslo trained in the arts. But, in the last 40 years or more, I have never found much time to focus on it. Right now, I am pursuing a Doctorate in Islamic Studies. It would be hard to be more "creative" than that here in the wilderness of North America.
You should always rememebr that while Nkrumah was studying philosophy, he was also working his behind off trying to pay tuition. That is what made a man out of him. It probably pointed him towards Booker T. and away from Dubois and his two white bosses in the NAACP. He learned among many other things that THE MAN FARHTEST DOWN was just as important if not moreso, as the "talented tenth" of 1/10th of 1%.
I wish you would study Historicl Materialism.

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#1295 Jun 21, 2012
Savant wrote:
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I taught at Tusketee for awhile. You are misinformed if you think that Blacks own it.
Blacks owned it from day one. Booker T. made sure that the lease deeds was in the name of an independent enttiy controolled by blacks ONLY. They have had non-Blacks on thre Borad. Anfd non-Blacks have financed a major part of it. But, the ownership has always been black. I know you have a hard time accepting and understanding this because youy wnat to hate Booker T. But TRuskegee is the ONLY university owned by blacks in this country. Give credit where credit is due.

Savant wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe you should read what Nkrumah, a great admirer of Du Bois (often seen as the father of Pan-Africansim) contributed to the struggle.
Maybe I have already read it. I know Nkrumah loved him. But Nkrumah's ideology was that of Booker T's and Marcus Garvey's not Dubois' Eurocentric non-sense. And Nkrumah was for the common man, not some elite "talented tenth", etc
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>Or maybe you should read DR. King's address "Honoring Du Bois." And if all you know about Du Bois is his poetry then you know little indeed.
I know he did some pioneering research in African history. I admire that work. But, Dubois is actually the father of American sociology whereas Booker T. is more of the father of Pan-Africanism than Dubois.

I have just written a Book Review on thsi subject. I need to poish it, time permitting, beforre I publsih it. But the book is called UP FROM HISTORY: THE LIFE OF BOOKER T. WASHINGTON by Rbert Norrell. It is worth reading by those who are honest enough to seek objective truth as what happened surrounding Booker T.
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>As for Angela Davis, the SYSTEM didn't think she was unimportant. Otherwise, they would not have imprisoned her as they did thousands of others involved in the strugle during the 1960s.
In those days, I thought she was beautiful. But, I have met her personally and I do not want to be offensive towards her. She is a lesbian. And She has a flat butt that is not at all pretty. Obviously some people like flat behinds. I do not. That is personal. They are still humans of course. But Flat booties are not attractive to me. I suppose that is mor eYOUR speed.

Savant wrote:
<quoted text>Nothing personal, but your posts on this and other thigns seems to suggest that you have more opinions than knowledge.
I have both, like it or not.

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#1296 Jun 21, 2012
Savant wrote:
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I wish you would study Historicl Materialism.
What did I just reference you? It is the most advancred discourse on historical materialism ever written. It goes to show you that Africans created all the great systems of thougght and do not need any white folks to teach us how to think. In the case of Sekou Toue, his mind was formed and developed in the Islamic Madrassa, not any western universities. That is what made him great, like it or not.

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#1297 Jun 21, 2012
Sceptical wrote:
The bloomberg poll skewed Dem, but that doesn't change the original point. Obama is up, not down, in the polls. It's close though.
You are handsome.

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#1298 Jun 22, 2012
Abdurratln wrote:
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Blacks owned it from day one. Booker T. made sure that the lease deeds was in the name of an independent enttiy controolled by blacks ONLY. They have had non-Blacks on thre Borad. Anfd non-Blacks have financed a major part of it. But, the ownership has always been black. I know you have a hard time accepting and understanding this because youy wnat to hate Booker T. But TRuskegee is the ONLY university owned by blacks in this country. Give credit where credit is due.
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Maybe I have already read it. I know Nkrumah loved him. But Nkrumah's ideology was that of Booker T's and Marcus Garvey's not Dubois' Eurocentric non-sense. And Nkrumah was for the common man, not some elite "talented tenth", etc
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I know he did some pioneering research in African history. I admire that work. But, Dubois is actually the father of American sociology whereas Booker T. is more of the father of Pan-Africanism than Dubois.
I have just written a Book Review on thsi subject. I need to poish it, time permitting, beforre I publsih it. But the book is called UP FROM HISTORY: THE LIFE OF BOOKER T. WASHINGTON by Rbert Norrell. It is worth reading by those who are honest enough to seek objective truth as what happened surrounding Booker T.
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In those days, I thought she was beautiful. But, I have met her personally and I do not want to be offensive towards her. She is a lesbian. And She has a flat butt that is not at all pretty. Obviously some people like flat behinds. I do not. That is personal. They are still humans of course. But Flat booties are not attractive to me. I suppose that is mor eYOUR speed.
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I have both, like it or not.
Actually, Nkrumah's philosophy--like that of Du Bois--was pan-Africanism and socialism. Both studied Marxism. Booker T. Washington was politically conservative and pro-capitalist.
At Tuskegee I once heard it from the mouth of the university's president, that INDUSTRY determines even what's important in the curriculum at Tuskegee. I can assure you that those industries are not contrlled by Blacks.
The degree to which Tuskegee, behinds the facade of Black control is really controlled by big whtie money, was artistically depicted by Ralph Ellison's INVISIBLE MAN (This, by the way, is an American example of what both Nkrumah & Fanon called "neocolonialism").
But Du Bois was the father of empirical sociology in the USA.
As for Du Bois's "Eurocentric nonsense", it was he (not Wasington) who pioneered the study of African history anc culture.
of coruse, Du Bois's education---like that of Nkrumah, Amilcar Cabral, Fanon and just about everyone else involved in struggle--happened in Western universities. Yet some of those Western educated Black intellectuals became progressive and revolutionary. Others did not. Du Bois was one of those who did.

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#1299 Jun 22, 2012
Abdurratln wrote:
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Blacks owned it from day one. Booker T. made sure that the lease deeds was in the name of an independent enttiy controolled by blacks ONLY. They have had non-Blacks on thre Borad. Anfd non-Blacks have financed a major part of it. But, the ownership has always been black. I know you have a hard time accepting and understanding this because youy wnat to hate Booker T. But TRuskegee is the ONLY university owned by blacks in this country. Give credit where credit is due.
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Maybe I have already read it. I know Nkrumah loved him. But Nkrumah's ideology was that of Booker T's and Marcus Garvey's not Dubois' Eurocentric non-sense. And Nkrumah was for the common man, not some elite "talented tenth", etc
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I know he did some pioneering research in African history. I admire that work. But, Dubois is actually the father of American sociology whereas Booker T. is more of the father of Pan-Africanism than Dubois.
I have just written a Book Review on thsi subject. I need to poish it, time permitting, beforre I publsih it. But the book is called UP FROM HISTORY: THE LIFE OF BOOKER T. WASHINGTON by Rbert Norrell. It is worth reading by those who are honest enough to seek objective truth as what happened surrounding Booker T.
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In those days, I thought she was beautiful. But, I have met her personally and I do not want to be offensive towards her. She is a lesbian. And She has a flat butt that is not at all pretty. Obviously some people like flat behinds. I do not. That is personal. They are still humans of course. But Flat booties are not attractive to me. I suppose that is mor eYOUR speed.
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I have both, like it or not.
By the way, your personal insulting comments about Angela Y. Davis is little more than Ad Hominem attacks, not an intelligent commentary or refutation of her views. In fact, your comments are reactionary and sexist. The shape of her derriere has nothing to do with the cogency or uncogency of her ideas.
You may actually have to read her "unfinised Lecture on liberation" or WOMEN: RACE AND CLASS, or ARE PRISONS OBSOLETE?
And from my acquaintace with Black progressives and recolutionaries, not many would approve of your sexist put down even if they disagreed with Angela Y. Davis.

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#1300 Jun 22, 2012
Savant wrote:
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Actually, Nkrumah's philosophy--like that of Du Bois--was pan-Africanism and socialism. Both studied Marxism.
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Socialism ain't worth much if all you do is write poetry about it and never implement any. Where did Dubois implement socialism? Nkurmah implemented it in Ghana. So the two men do not mix well in my way of thinking which is historial materialism.

Savant wrote:
<quoted text>Booker T. Washington was politically conservative and pro-capitalist.
The poorest of poor slaves were and are conservatives. Booker T. was conservative on such things as family values and social morality. But his entire works was to the betterment of the poorest of the poor, what he called The Man Farthest Down. Read it. It is not the best witten book in the world, I am told. But it let's you put Booker T.'s philosophy in its proper perspective.
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>At Tuskegee I once heard it from the mouth of the university's president, that INDUSTRY determines even what's important in the curriculum at Tuskegee. I can assure you that those industries are not contrlled by Blacks.
What I am saying is that none of that can be implemeted without going through the black ownership of the school. I already conceded that whites have financed the school.

Look at this way, at first there was no school. Booker T. bought a couple of old rundown buildings and had to borrow money to pay for them. One was literally not much more than a henhouse. They had no roofs that could keep out the rain.(See Up from History by Norrell) Right from that first beginning he was very careful to make sure that blacks owned those two little shacks. Then he went around from door to door to collect pennies and sell eggs to get money to improve them. Blacks built new roofs to protect the students and teacher (there was only one teacher and his name was Booker T.) from rain. When it rained, students would hold an umbrella over Booker T.'s head to keep him almost dry.

It was only later that whites got involved. And we must always be grateful that the "industrialists" and "conservatives" were so generous toward us. They poured millions upon millions into that black owned project. Now, it is a major world status university. And blacks still own it.

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#1301 Jun 22, 2012
Continued from above…
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>The degree to which Tuskegee, behinds the facade of Black control is really controlled by big whtie money, was artistically depicted by Ralph Ellison's INVISIBLE MAN (This, by the way, is an American example of what both Nkrumah & Fanon called "neocolonialism").
Call is neo-slavery or neo-Jim Crowism or something. But avoid calling it "neo-colonialism". That confuses things too much.
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>But Du Bois was the father of empirical sociology in the USA.
As for Du Bois's "Eurocentric nonsense", it was he (not Wasington) who pioneered the study of African history anc culture.
Why was he too far out in left field to realize a need to study African Economic Development? I guess his head was stuck too far up the backside of European socialists. Right?

Anyhow, while Dubois was one of America's greatest and most imminent scholars of all American history, it was half-educated Booker T. who pioneered research into African Economic Development in this country. Next time you are near Atlanta, go to the Research Library and ask to see Booker T.'s book on Black Owned Business at that time. In fact, if you find the Collective Works of Booker T.'s anywhere, that book will be among them.
As for legacy, I know it is hard for you to wrap your mind around this, Booker T.’s project to convene blacks to talking about business and Economic Development led to the National Negro Business League. This was the predecessor to the national Chamber of Commerce once whites got onto the idea and the National Urban League, not to mention the Black Star Line which still exists and the shipping company of the Republic of Ghana. It is also symbolized in the National Flag of the Republic and of the Convention People’s Party and the All-African People’s revolutionary Party, the better part of which is at Howard U.(See Drs. John T. and Runuko.): http://www.google.com/imgres... .
Also started under Booker T. was an initiative that contributed to the founding of the African national Congress in South Africa. At that time, Mahatma Gandhi was practicing law there. He picked up on the idea and founded the Indian National Congress there. This led to Revolution in India. MLK admits that he learned by studying Gandhi’s methods and philosophy. It is interesting to note that Christianity could not and did not inspire the Civil Rights Movement. Gandhi was a Hindu. But he learned from the example that “conservative” Booker T. set as an ex-save in America.
What I am saying is that Booker T. convened the leaders of the poor black community in the segregated south and all across America reaching well into Africa on th4e West Coast at Togo and to South Africa. And together they took the initiative to start businesses among the blacks and start new communities of freed men and women in various places. These were NEW INSTITUTIONS that had not previously existed among the slave community.
Now, let me review the chain one more time. From India came the Civil Rights Movement. At the same time, Nkrumahism took root in Ghana and led to an almost identical process. Nkrumah called it Positive Action.( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Action ) This led to Independence in Africa and socialism in Ghana and most parts of Africa.

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#1302 Jun 22, 2012
Continued from above...

Savant wrote:
<quoted text>Of course, Du Bois's education---like that of Nkrumah, Amilcar Cabral, Fanon and just about everyone else involved in struggle--happened in Western universities.
That is true but it is also a distortion of the reality. Ghana became independent in 1957. In 19658 Guinea followed suit. Later, Ghana Guinea and Mali formed the Union of African States. This was the core of Casablanca Group in Muslim Morocco. The Casablanca Group formed the Organization of African Unity in the face of stiff opposition from the Monrovia Group and the Brazzaville Group of African States. I must note here that tactical compromise was forced unto the Casablanca Group that led to a retardation and delay of further Union in Africa to the mess we see today in the AU. It was also noted in the so-called 6th Pan-African Congress as soon as Nkrumah died. They held a big celebration is dar al-Salam Tanzania they were so glad to be rid of Nkurmahism, or so they thought. But as you can see, we are still here and still kicking behinds.( http://conventionpeoplesparty.org/ ) Put on your earphones and listen to the cock crow. LOL!!!
But I digress. Guinea was led by Ahmed Sekou Toure the grandson of His Majesty King Almamy Samori Toure ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/53911892 @N00/419561603). H.E. Comrade Ahmed was kicked out of “western education” for having the gall to tell his teachers that Guinea needed to be free when he was less than 10 years old. So much for his chances at “western universities”. So, he went to Islamic Madrassa and got himself a real education. Talking about being “creative”, he became a trade union organizer and leader.( http://africanhistory.about.com/od/panafrican... ). He later “creatively” founded the African Democratic Rally from which the Democratic Party of Guinea came. He put so much “creative” pressure on France that they allowed blacks to be elected to their white man’s Parliament and Comrade Ahmed was one of the first blacks to be elected. And he led Guinea to Independence while all the house slaves of francophone Africa were happy to remain slaves to France for nearly a de cade longer.[And Ivory Coast has recently re-enslaved itself to France. My Ivorian girlfriend has not spoken to me since I told her that was a stupid idea. LOL! She went and got herself a white boyfriend. LOL!(Both he and she are intellectually and morally challenged Muslims)] He became the greatest political mind in the French language in the past 1,000 years, at least. And he was one of the longest ruling leaders in modern African political history. There is a great need to translate his Works into English and other languages in the African Nation.[I have translated some already.( http://fudaa.blogspot.com/2007/05/political-u... )]
Savant wrote:
<quoted text> Yet some of those Western educated Black intellectuals became progressive and revolutionary. Others did not. Du Bois was one of those who did.
Yeah he was “progressive” but still a major source of confusion within the African intelligentsia.( http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/97... )

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#1303 Jun 22, 2012
Savant wrote:
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By the way, your personal insulting comments about Angela Y. Davis is little more than Ad Hominem attacks, not an intelligent commentary or refutation of her views.
I already said that I mean no persoanl offense. But, I do want to note that her views are not acceptable to me beyond the psoitive role she played in the late 1960's. My opinion of her went south when I realized that she was some kind of a dogmatic Marxist.(I really do not want to go back to our debate about Marxism.) I later learned that she was a an alleged lesbian. I met her later and I noticed what you think is "insultuing" about her. All I want tos ay is I was gisppoited in her real appearnce after having developed such adisortedly high opinion of her when I was still young and dumb.

Savant wrote:
<quoted text>In fact, your comments are reactionary and sexist.
There you go again. Going...going...gone.

Savant wrote:
<quoted text>The shape of her derriere has nothing to do with the cogency or uncogency of her ideas.
Duh? Well, where exactly is her brain located if not in her booty? You tell me.
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>You may actually have to read her "unfinised Lecture on liberation" or WOMEN: RACE AND CLASS, or ARE PRISONS OBSOLETE?
Did she say anything about "liberation of gay lesbians"? If so, I think I will pass. I have better things to do with my time.
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>And from my acquaintace with Black progressives and recolutionaries, not many would approve of your sexist put down even if they disagreed with Angela Y. Davis.
Yeah. I know. Well, eff 99% of them, especially of the Angela Davis variety.

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DC

#1304 Jun 22, 2012
Abdurratln wrote:
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Yeah. He got more than I expected in the Hispanic bounch. But it will not last, I hope. He has played that card. What else is left for him? The only way Obama will win this election is with black vote, like last time. And as long as he is too arrogant to acknowldege that and apologize for messing with us, he will not win.
Obama will win or lose the election on the economy, not the black vote. That's sad since he's been fixing the economy for the last four years and neither he, nor the last sitting dem president, were responsible for breaking it. Romney's voting record on financial issues should have us all running for the hills when we look at the policies that landed us in the mess we're in.

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#1305 Jun 22, 2012
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text> You are handsome.
thanks!

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#1306 Jun 22, 2012
Sceptical wrote:
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Obama will win or lose the election on the economy, not the black vote. That's sad since he's been fixing the economy for the last four years and neither he, nor the last sitting dem president, were responsible for breaking it. Romney's voting record on financial issues should have us all running for the hills when we look at the policies that landed us in the mess we're in.
He will lose it on the economy becauase he has fixed it somewhat for some whites but has done NOTHING for black workers or for Hispanics. I do not think Hispanic workers are dumb enough to bypass the Catholic Church to support someone who is obviously anti-Chriatian besides being anti-Muslim.

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#1307 Jun 22, 2012
Abdurratln wrote:
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He will lose it on the economy becauase he has fixed it somewhat for some whites but has done NOTHING for black workers or for Hispanics. I do not think Hispanic workers are dumb enough to bypass the Catholic Church to support someone who is obviously anti-Chriatian besides being anti-Muslim.
I'm not really sure how you're breaking the votes down. Obama will have very little problem holding a majority of Hispanic votes, given his recent moves on immigration, and Romney's tone deaf approach to the issue. I haven't seen much analysis that says Obama's performance on the African American vote is dependent on the economy (as opposed to other demographics). That swing is attributed more to social issues, where he seems to be doing OK, if not great.

I'm not going to get into a long debate with you regarding Obama's Christian credentials. You seem to have a particular agenda in that regard, which doesn't interest me.

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#1308 Jun 22, 2012
Let me dumb it down for you:

Obama's Approval in Freefall on Stagnant Economy
Friday, 22 Jun 2012 12:26 PM

By Paul Scicchitano



Just 33 percent of Americans now believe the president is doing a “good” or “excellent” job when it comes to the economy, according to a Rasmussen poll.

“This election is more than just a referendum on President Obama. It is a referendum on his handling of the economy,” declares Political analyst and Democratic pollster Doug Schoen in an exclusive interview with Newsmax on Friday.

InsiderAdvantage head and pollster Matt Towery agrees with Schoen’s assessment.“Regardless of what poll you’re looking at the president’s not doing well in the economy in terms of just dealing with the economy.”

“What’s happened is much more anemic economic growth than we anticipated — not only in the United States, but most especially in Europe and even in China to some extent,” she tells Newsmax.“So as we’re heading into the second half of this year, we’re having less demand than some had expected, but meanwhile supply is still adequate — more than adequate. Inventories are starting to build. So that price of crude has come down.”

“Gas prices are the political football of the world and they generally never mean anything,” said Towery.“What they’re concerned about is people don’t have any money in their pocket.”

Voters do not have to look hard to see the signs of a worsening economy. Moody's Investors Service has lowered the credit ratings on some of the world's biggest banks, including Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase and Goldman Sachs, reflecting concern over their exposure to the violent swings in global financial markets.

The downgrades late Thursday ultimately are a measure of Moody's view on the ability of the banks to repay their debts. The ratings agency also cut its ratings on Barclays, Deutsche Bank and HSBC, some of the largest banks in Europe, a region fighting to contain a government debt crisis.

U.S. manufacturing grew at its slowest pace in 11 months in June and the number of Americans filing new applications for unemployment aid fell only slightly last week.

“With more than 8 percent out of work and an equal number under employed or discouraged workers, the American people are hurting and the fall in president Obama’s approval rating, vote share, and ratings on the economy reflect just that,” Schoen explained.

Most Americans already believe that the U.S. is in a recession, observed Towery.

“People don’t have any money in their pocket and they can’t borrow any money. They don’t qualify for loans,” he said.“The banks will only loan to people who have money in the first place and so we are basically at a complete stalemate in terms of our economy. There’s nothing that anyone can think of that will spur it to go forward.”

Towery acknowledges that the president’s handling of the economy will largely determine his re-election chances.

“I don’t think they expected to see unemployment increase, which basically it has. It certainly hasn’t decreased,” observed Towery.“And I don’t think they also expected that there would be this stagnant sort of situation where not only are things not moving here in the U.S. but all over the world.”

If the election were about personality, Obama would be feeling better about his re-election prospects, said Schoen, adding that the president is extremely likeable.

“If the election were a personality contest there’s every reason to believe president Obama would have a very good chance of getting re-elected, but since it’s a referendum on the economy it makes for a much more difficult and uphill climb for President Obama than anyone would have expected just a few short months ago,” Schoen said.

The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-approv ...

Now, do you undersatnd?
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#1309 Jun 22, 2012
Abdurratln wrote:
Let me dumb it down for you:
Obama's Approval in Freefall on Stagnant Economy
Friday, 22 Jun 2012 12:26 PM
By Paul Scicchitano
Just 33 percent of Americans now believe the president is doing a “good” or “excellent” job when it comes to the economy, according to a Rasmussen poll.
“This election is more than just a referendum on President Obama. It is a referendum on his handling of the economy,” declares Political analyst and Democratic pollster Doug Schoen in an exclusive interview with Newsmax on Friday.
InsiderAdvantage head and pollster Matt Towery agrees with Schoen’s assessment.“Regardless of what poll you’re looking at the president’s not doing well in the economy in terms of just dealing with the economy.”
“What’s happened is much more anemic economic growth than we anticipated — not only in the United States, but most especially in Europe and even in China to some extent,” she tells Newsmax.“So as we’re heading into the second half of this year, we’re having less demand than some had expected, but meanwhile supply is still adequate — more than adequate. Inventories are starting to build. So that price of crude has come down.”
“Gas prices are the political football of the world and they generally never mean anything,” said Towery.“What they’re concerned about is people don’t have any money in their pocket.”
Voters do not have to look hard to see the signs of a worsening economy. Moody's Investors Service has lowered the credit ratings on some of the world's biggest banks, including Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase and Goldman Sachs, reflecting concern over their exposure to the violent swings in global financial markets.
The downgrades late Thursday ultimately are a measure of Moody's view on the ability of the banks to repay their debts. The ratings agency also cut its ratings on Barclays, Deutsche Bank and HSBC, some of the largest banks in Europe, a region fighting to contain a government debt crisis.
U.S. manufacturing grew at its slowest pace in 11 months in June and the number of Americans filing new applications for unemployment aid fell only slightly last week.
“With more than 8 percent out of work and an equal number under employed or discouraged workers, the American people are hurting and the fall in president Obama’s approval rating, vote share, and ratings on the economy reflect just that,” Schoen explained.
Most Americans already believe that the U.S. is in a recession, observed Towery.
“People don’t have any money in their pocket and they can’t borrow any money. They don’t qualify for loans,” he said.“The banks will only loan to people who have money in the first place and so we are basically at a complete stalemate in terms of our economy. There’s nothing that anyone can think of that will spur it to go forward.”
Towery acknowledges that the president’s handling of the economy will largely determine his re-election chances.
“I don’t think they expected to see unemployment increase, which basically it has. It certainly hasn’t decreased,” observed Towery.“And I don’t think they also expected that there would be this stagnant sort of situation where not only are things not moving here in the U.S. but all over the world.”
If the election were about personality, Obama would be feeling better about his re-election prospects, said Schoen, adding that the president is extremely likeable.
“If the election were a personality contest there’s every reason to believe president Obama would have a very good chance of getting re-elected, but since it’s a referendum on the economy it makes for a much more difficult and uphill climb for President Obama than anyone would have expected just a few short months ago,” Schoen said.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-approv ...
Now, do you undersatnd?
But but but that's not what Media Matters or moveon.org , or the Daily Kos, or Ed Shultz said. Or Bloomberg polling data...

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#1310 Jun 22, 2012
Vote For The Donkey wrote:
<quoted text>But but but that's not what Media Matters or moveon.org , or the Daily Kos, or Ed Shultz said. Or Bloomberg polling data...
Duh? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!! You are pathetic.

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#1311 Jun 22, 2012
Sceptical wrote:
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Obama will win or lose the election on the economy, not the black vote. That's sad since he's been fixing the economy for the last four years and neither he, nor the last sitting dem president, were responsible for breaking it. Romney's voting record on financial issues should have us all running for the hills when we look at the policies that landed us in the mess we're in.
It can easily take up to ten years to recover.

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#1312 Jun 22, 2012
Vote For The Donkey wrote:
But but but that's not what Media Matters or moveon.org , or the Daily Kos, or Ed Shultz said. Or Bloomberg polling data...
Don't you have a klan meeting to attend?

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#1313 Jun 22, 2012
Abdurratln wrote:
Now, do you undersatnd?
I understand you are dumb@ss uncle tom.

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