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Jorge

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#63 May 31, 2012
*stfu*
baadindyan

Rocky Hill, CT

#64 May 31, 2012
ElToroDesperation wrote:
<quoted text>I must study your ban on white slavery. Can you post me a link of this? Also you admit in your post that economics did infact lead to the decision to enslave Africans. Therefore it was an economical call, rather than being motivated by racism. Besides, what people would enslave their own people anyway, if another population is avaliable?
White slavery is what banded together the Western European colonial powers of the time against the Ottoman Turks and Barbary Pirates of Morocco (the young United States' first confrontation from which the USMC was borne was with pirates taking white Americans as slaves for sultans around North Africa). It was their great horror that whites were still being enslaved that was the primary motivation for the Abolitionist movement, which later went on to incorporate the plight of African slaves as well. In Crimean War for example when the Russian Empire took on the Ottoman Turkish empire, the British and the French supported the Turks (strategic game) in return for concessions on suppressing the enslavement of white Europeans living under Turkish rule. The end of white enslavement had become a national priority and foreign policy issue for the Western European nations.

Also it is foolish to think like "who would enslave their own?" Historically race-consciousness never existed like that till the whites began realizing that they are a distinct "white people". In ancient times, whites like Romans and Greeks would enslave whites like Germans and Nordics just like they would enslave non-whites like Egyptians and Persians. There was no "white" identity like that. Likewise blacks have also always been that way in Africa, there was never a black identity. The reason why slavery became racial is that while the white powers of the world became race-conscious, the black kingdoms in Africa were still in their older world codes where they only saw tribe and skin-color/phenotype was not a determining factor in who is to be seen as a brother.

So yes, the banding together of whites post-1500s is indeed racial. After the potential pool of slaves from their native Europe was out of reach, then the economic argument for African slaves can be made.

Imagine the type of $hit that would have gone down in the US in the 1800s if there was a free black man owning white slaves LMAO. Has it happened in the history of the world? Sure. Throughout history of the world, blacks have owned whites, whites have owned blacks, blacks have owned blacks, whites have owned whites, etc etc...but in the US it was always exclusive for blacks to be the slaves. Remnants of this legacy still exist at large throughout the country. The biggest nightmare to a man of color in a white collar position is to supervise blue-collar white men. 9 times out of 10 there is stiff resistance and a complex that arises from a history of white masters and black slaves. If you admit also that men in general have problem with women supervisors at work and know the root cause of this is millenia of women's submission to men in the home, you can acknowledge the root cause of white resistance to black supervision in the US...
Perfesser Smacklips

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#65 May 31, 2012
yes, there were many Black Confederates. the main unit was the "Kentucky Fried Chicken Finger-Lickers" under Colonel Sanders. The motto on their banner was "Wese likes bein slaves!" Another regiment was the "51st Mississippi Melon-Stealers" . Yessuh, those darkies sho liked being slaves.

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#66 May 31, 2012
@ Baadindyan

I do believe that I asked you for a link to your sources. So far you have provided none.

Your claiming that racism was the SOLE motiviating factor to enslave Africans is bullsht. Racism was created out of the need to find a rationale for the slave trade. The CHRISTIAN western world powers knew that it was not right for one son of Adam to enslave another son of Adam. Therefore they had to spread propoganda of Africans being sub humnan, so that they could enslave them. Africans were already in America working as indentured servants, and did not have to deal with racism prior to the trans atlantic slave trade.

If you study history, you would know that father Bartholemew De las Casas petitoned the pope in Rome to enslave Africans, due to a limited supply of Native Americans. The NA population had decreaed due to being ennslaved, killed, and dying from the diseases carried by the white man.

What you must realize, is that you do not have to tell lies on the white man to dislike him. If you are motivated by hatred, then there is probably plenty of historical fuel that you can reflect on. But claiming untruths about whites, does no good to the preservation of true history. We must not distort the facts.

Racism did not predate the slave trade. You have it backwards lol. It was the slave trade that needed racism, which resulted in the birth of racism. If this is not so, then post a link showing any racism from American whites directed to American blacks, prior to the 1600's.

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#67 May 31, 2012
@ Baadindyan

I do believe that I asked you for a link to your sources. So far you have provided none.

Your claiming that racism was the SOLE motiviating factor to enslave Africans is bullsht. Racism was created out of the need to find a rationale for the slave trade. The CHRISTIAN western world powers knew that it was not right for one son of Adam to enslave another son of Adam. Therefore they had to spread propoganda of Africans being sub human, so that they could enslave them. Africans were already in America working as indentured servants, and did not have to deal with racism prior to the trans atlantic slave trade.

If you study history, you would know that father Bartholemew De las Casas petitoned the pope in Rome to enslave Africans, due to a limited supply of Native Americans. The NA population had decreaed due to being ennslaved, killed, and dying from the diseases carried by the white man.

What you must realize, is that you do not have to tell lies on the white man to dislike him. If you are motivated by hatred, then there is probably plenty of historical fuel that you can reflect on. But claiming untruths about whites, does no good to the preservation of true history. We must not distort the facts.

Racism did not predate the slave trade. You have it backwards lol. It was the slave trade that needed racism, which resulted in the birth of racism. If this is not so, then post a link showing any racism from American whites directed to American blacks, prior to the 1600's.

My sources among others are:

Dr. John Henrik Clarke

Dr. Lenoard Jefferies

Dr. Ivan Van Sertima

Dr. Yoseph Ben
Uncle Tom

London, UK

#68 Jun 1, 2012
Perfesser Smacklips wrote:
yes, there were many Black Confederates. the main unit was the "Kentucky Fried Chicken Finger-Lickers" under Colonel Sanders. The motto on their banner was "Wese likes bein slaves!" Another regiment was the "51st Mississippi Melon-Stealers" . Yessuh, those darkies sho liked being slaves.
other black regiments in the Confederate Army-

the 45th Uncle Toms Regiment .
the Original Slave Volunteers
the Dixieland House Coons
and Colonel Smacklips' Chicken-wingers

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#69 Jun 1, 2012
Perfesser Smacklips wrote:
yes, there were many Black Confederates. the main unit was the "Kentucky Fried Chicken Finger-Lickers" under Colonel Sanders. The motto on their banner was "Wese likes bein slaves!" Another regiment was the "51st Mississippi Melon-Stealers" . Yessuh, those darkies sho liked being slaves.
Not all blacks who participated in the confedersate cause were slaves DUMBA@@ lol. That is crap that white folks keep pushing to demonize the south. There were plenty black slave owners who owned black slaves themselves. The reason why rich blacks fought for the south is the same reason why rich whites fought for the south, which was in most cases to protect their property. Blacks fought to prevent Yankees from stripping the land from them, which they had worked so hard to obtain as free men. I think that is worth fighting for. We all know to the winners go the spoils.

Why do you think that blacks on an individual basis give a rats A@@ about other blakcs? Most rich blacks do not even care about poor black folk. Like when is the last time an NBA star kicked down any black person's door and delivered them from poverty?!?!? The same was yesterday as it is today. When a black man does not lend you a hand, it does not mean that he hate other blacks, it simply means that he LOVES HIMSELF and all the wealth that he has acquired in this life. It's basically a F*CK everybody else attitude!

Grow up and learn something negro. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

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#70 Jun 1, 2012
Uncle Tom wrote:
<quoted text>other black regiments in the Confederate Army-
the 45th Uncle Toms Regiment .
the Original Slave Volunteers
the Dixieland House Coons
and Colonel Smacklips' Chicken-wingers
Not all blacks who participated in the confedersate cause were slaves DUMBA@@ lol. That is crap that white folks keep pushing to demonize the south. There were plenty black slave owners who owned black slaves themselves. The reason why rich blacks fought for the south is the same reason why rich whites fought for the south, which was in most cases to protect their property. Blacks fought to prevent Yankees from stripping the land from them, which they had worked so hard to obtain as free men. I think that is worth fighting for. We all know to the winners go the spoils.

Why do you think that blacks on an individual basis give a rats A@@ about other blakcs? Most rich blacks do not even care about poor black folk. Like when is the last time an NBA star kicked down any black person's door and delivered them from poverty?!?!? The same was yesterday as it is today. When a black man does not lend you a hand, it does not mean that he hate other blacks, it simply means that he LOVES HIMSELF and all the wealth that he has acquired in this life. It's basically a F*CK everybody else attitude!

Grow up and learn something negro. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

And don't front like you are not black, pleny of us live in london lol. I know you don't like this topic, but deal with it, or move the F*CK on, before the sheriff arrest yo A@@ for stupidity lol.

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