White skin is only 5500 years old.

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It seems Sickle Cell is also associated with homozygous & heterozygous which play a role in Human skin color.

Barras Serrana wrote:

But what are the genes that affect WHITE SKIN? You claim to be smart but you can't answer a simple question.
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Really? You're out of your depths here mate. At least study the subject before you go on making ludicrous claims which are prone to be shut down.
Ha!

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Doesn't seem so otherwise they'd put it up there with rs1426654 (SLC24A5). Either way the argument would then go to; What was the time frame for its appearance?
Considering the low frequency in South Asia who share common ancestry with Europeans between 40,000 - 10,000 years ago I believe that to be a reasonable time frame for when it arose. Methinks <20,000 years ago probably arising around the same time as rs1426654 (12,000 - 10,000 BP). This all still points to a darker people inhabiting early Europe.

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But they are not all white you idiot. Only northern euros are white. You lost this debate from page one.
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Barras Serrana wrote:

You have a link to prove this claim? Or am i suppose to take your word for it?
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Mmmm___BlackWomen wrote:

Who gives a fcuk.

Barras Serrana wrote:

I do not know if you are aware of this. BUT NOT ALL EUROPEANS ARE WHITE SKINNED. Until you provide a link saying WHITE SKIN(not light skin) arose prior to 12k you will continue to look like an idiot.
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Barras Serrana wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R ed_hair
Estimates on the original occurrence of the currently active gene for red hair vary from 20,000 to 100,000 years ago.[27][28]
It doesn't say anything about pale skin.
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No it doesn't necessarily mean darker people were inhabiting early Europe because the Neanderthals were inhabiting early Eurasia before them and studies have shown they were fair complexion.
http://www.google.com/imgres...
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/318/5850/54...
Europe is not the tropics, so early Eurasians having fair complexions dating back to 30,000 years ago wouldn't have been a shocker since their closest cousins, Neanderthals, had fair complexion and were inhabiting those same early Eurasia regions before them. Studies have shown rs1426654 (SLC24A5) is clearly associated with fair skinned among Europeans. Both rs1426654 (SLC24A5) and rs1426654 (SLC24A5) as well as Rs1042602 (TYRP1) are all associated with light skins in Europeans.
"The two genes SLC24A5 and SLC45A2 were recently identified as major determinants of pigmentation in humans and in other vertebrates. The allele p.A111T in the former gene and the allele p.L374F in the latter gene are both nearly fixed in ---> LIGHT <---skinned Europeans, and can therefore be considered ancestry informative marker (AIMs). Here, we generate new allelic data for these two genes from samples of Chinese, Uygurs, Ghanaians, South African Xhosa, South African Europeans, and Sri Lankans (Tamils and Sinhalese). Our data confirm the earlier results and furthermore demonstrate that the SLC45A2 allele is a more specific AIM than the SLC24A5 allele because the former clearly distinguishes the Sri Lankans from the Europeans."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16847698...

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Jeff wrote:

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No it doesn't necessarily mean darker people were inhabiting early Europe because the Neanderthals were inhabiting early Eurasia before them and studies have shown they were fair complexion.

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Europe is not the tropics, so early Eurasians having fair complexions dating back to 30,000 years ago wouldn't have been a shocker

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Jeff wrote:

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Wrong. Light skin evovled in humans soon after they migrated out of Africa.."

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Rs16891982 (p.L374F MATP) IS NOT for "Light Brown" skin, stupid, but for FAIR complexion. Its typically associated in Europeans with dark hair and light aka 'WHITE' skin.

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European are white, moron, and light skin means WHITE SKIN, you stupid fool. Look up the definition and ROOT for the word, means 'white'. Go learn English because it is very clearly English must be your second language.

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Jeff wrote:

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The gene responsible for both pale skin and red hair dates back to before the time of the evolutionary separation of chimpanzees and humans, that's over millions of years ago. We know this to be true because the gene has also been found in chimps, as well as Neanderthals and Denisovans showing a common ancestry

Barros Serrano wrote:

I've many times told these Afronazis about this stuff... that multiple genes affect skin color, that the genetic pathways to light skin are not the same among all peoples, that the red-hair allele in neandertal was not the same as the one in sapiens, that light color could be quite old, that adaptation of skin color has probably gone on for some time, that in fact the darkest people, such as W Africans, had evolved from prior lighter forms...
Now Jeff produces the f'ing NUMBERS of the genes, all the details, and they still argue because they can't understand it! LOL... and they were claiming I was a liar and demanding sources.
SMH... hopeless f'ing Afronazis. The only remedy is to slap the racism, ignorance and smartass out of them.

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This just proves your own agenda. Your own link clearly state only two neaderthals were tested. For all you know those could have been freaks of nature.
From your own link:
A pigmentation gene from the bones of ------>two Neandertals,<------ reported online this week in Science ( www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/11474... ), indicates that at least ------->some Neandertals<------- had pale skin and red hair, similar to some of the Homo sapiens who today inhabit their European homeland.

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This just proves you do not know what their skin color was.