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And I quote again; a man is not to lay in bed with a man and do as he would with a woman. How much more plain does this need to be stated. I didn't say it. It is in God's Holy Bible, unless you don't believe in God or His Holy Bible. What's it gona be?
The bible also says if a women is raped she should marry her rapist. So stfu you jesus freak.

Take your bible and shove it down your throat.
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Apr 26, 2012
 
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ooooooooooo....temper, temper......
Don't presume you know the mood or tenor of people *you cannot see or hear*. They are invisible to you.
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<quoted text>Actually, it is my belief that NO MAN knows more than God, therefore; what scientists, the gay community and any man says will not be accepted by many, many, many, many, many people in the world over what the Lord God says in his Word. Just give it up.
No no no no no; for the very reason you state here, there are:

BILLIONS

of people who won't accept what YOU say. Therefore, YOU are advised to give it up. I have been exceptionally clear with you that I think your belief system is a pile of vomit and shit. How much clearer can I be?

I do not accept YOUR ABUSE of your fellow human beings. I do not accept YOUR attempts to force your views on me. I am *telling* you that I do not accept them.

This is not a dialogue.

This is not a two-way street.

I am *telling* you that your views represent immorality, rape and perversion, in my eyes.

DO NOT tell me what to think, once and for all. I am *telling* you that I do not accept it and that I view it as harasssment. Get the fuck out of my face. Are we clear?

I have been exceptionally clear with you. I want nothing to do with your Nazi moral code. The end. End of discussion.
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The bible also says if a women is raped she should marry her rapist. So stfu you jesus freak.
Take your bible and shove it down your throat.
My sentiments exactly. These people act like rapists and Nazis, and they act as if they are ENTITLED to force their views on others. This is not a dialogue; I am NOT interested in views which abuse adults and children; I will have nothing to do with that scummy, amoral filth. I am *NOT* in the habit of aligning myself with satanic bullshit.

Thank you for your post.

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<quoted text>Your first sentence was enough. I am simply stating that a man is not to lay in bed with another man and do as he would with a woman. Now you tell me what is misinterpretation about that. Please explain. There is nothing there to be misinterpreted about that in any language. If you chose to break God's law there is no way to justify that, no matter what it is. There never is a person that wants to acknowledge something that goes against what he or she wants to do. You can't find a way to make wrong, wright.
Again, that is addressing pagan fertility rituals. Are you are performing pagan fertility rituals?.

Now, tell me you even attempt to follow the rest of Leviticus. Animal sacrifice? If you don't attempt to follow the rest of Leviticus, your use of that verse can only be to stigmatize, demonize, and dehumanize, so you can justify not treating others the way you want to be treated.

Many scholars disagree with your interpretation of "the truth". Unfortunately, your version brings suffering and death, while mine harms no one beyond those practicing pagan fertility rituals.

So, why don't you follow all of Leviticus, including these verses?

Leviticus 19:18: You shall not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the LORD.

Leviticus 19:34: But the stranger that dwells with you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

WWJD?

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Don5163 wrote:
<quoted text>The guilty parties are going to have to answer for their sins also I'm sure. I don't know of any such statement as that in the Holy Bible. You must point out the Book, the chapter and the verse(s) to make such a statement.
nobody has to point out chapter and verse to you... if you want to find it begin reading at the beginning and work your way through the entire bible. it's in there.

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<quoted text>And I quote again; a man is not to lay in bed with a man and do as he would with a woman. How much more plain does this need to be stated. I didn't say it. It is in God's Holy Bible, unless you don't believe in God or His Holy Bible. What's it gona be?
Tell us you follow all of Leviticus.

If you don't follow it, why not?

Why just the verse that punishes, and not the other ones?

And why not the rest of the old testament?

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LMAO, you are fun.
oh, i'm sorry... actually i was serious. i'm curious as to which carved in stone religion the twit follows.

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Don5163 wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, it is my belief that NO MAN knows more than God, therefore; what scientists, the gay community and any man says will not be accepted by many, many, many, many, many people in the world over what the Lord God says in his Word. Just give it up.
Yet each different group, sect, each congregation, each scholar, and each individual believer has at least a little different understanding of what the bible is saying.

You choose to accept interpretations that lead to harm, while others reject interpretations that lead to harm as illegitimate because they contradict Jesus's message of love.

Galatians 5:14: The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself."

John 13:34: A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

1 John 4:21: And he has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother.

John 15:12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.

John 15:17: This is my command: Love each other.

James 2:8: But if you keep the greatest law of all, as it is given in the holy Writings, Have love for your neighbour as for yourself, you do well.

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I can only imagine this is correct; I see so many "religious" people sucking his big one that it's difficult to imagine anyone who follows religion has a moral code to speak of.
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Like I said ...
See above.
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And where that battle makes sense, such as in prohibiting theft and murder, religion will have some reason for victory and success. And where that battle makes no sense, such as in attacking gay people, religion will never, never win and is going to battle, quite literally, forever -- futilely.
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Do not tell me what to think.
Here's where you lost me.
You are setting yourself up for failure if you think you are going to tell me what to think.
I am warning you now.
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Like many people mistreat gays in all sorts of ways, including MORE THAN THIRTY STATES which have banned them from having equal rights.
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If you are saying gay people are, I can tell you something to do with that crucifix of yours, and you won't like hearing it.
I promise you won't like hearing it.
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Oh, no no no no. Don't try to act like they are IDENTICAL. NO two groups have IDENTICAL problems. I am saying they are COMPARABLE, and I will say it loudly and continuously because both are DISADVANTAGED GROUPS who are DISADVANTAGED because of the way they were BORN. Are you following? Do I need to go more slowly?
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"Ride on the coat tails"? Pardon me, did you just accuse my comparison of being an attempt to "ride on the coat tails"?
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There are numerous comparisons, as you well know. I know you know this. Your blindness and selfishness prevent you from seeing it, but the LAST thing you're gonna goddamn do, I promise you, is to tell ME what to compare and not to compare.
Are we clear?
Let me validate everything I have said is a very few words: Homosexuality is not a valid lifestyle, it is a chosen way of life and should be changed. That's my final word on this.

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Tell us you follow all of Leviticus.
If you don't follow it, why not?
Why just the verse that punishes, and not the other ones?
And why not the rest of the old testament?
Because there is one thing that is raining down on society like a river and that is homosexuality. This stuff should have been kept in the closet where it belongs and people practicing it should do all they can to change their lives to normal, not my normal, God's normal and don't play like you don't know what "normal" is.
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dances with weebles wrote:
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oh, i'm sorry... actually i was serious. i'm curious as to which carved in stone religion the twit follows.
I apologize; I did realize you were serious but I laughed!
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Don5163 wrote:
<quoted text>Let me validate everything I have said is a very few words: Homosexuality is not a valid lifestyle, it is a chosen way of life and should be changed. That's my final word on this.
You confirm that you are evil. You know full well that orientation is inborn. We all know you know it cannot be changed. We all know you know you are lying because you are a coward and a pharisee.

You malign a minority, and you act as if you have a "moral superiority" by so doing. I am glad to have knocked you off your pedestal on your ass, and I am happy to ask you *why the antigay never bring what you have just said up in court* if it's so true.

I wonder why the antigay *avoid* saying what you have just said in court cases.

Oh, that's right: Because the *world* that you cannot control relies on FACT and SCIENCE, which sucks for you.

I know you know you're lying. That's what makes you so incredibly evil. Yet you pretend to be "of god." You are honest-to-god filth.

I denounce you before god without blinking an eye, because I know that I am right and that you are wrong.

Get thee behind me.
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Don5163 wrote:
<quoted text>Because there is one thing that is raining down on society like a river and that is homosexuality. This stuff should have been kept in the closet where it belongs and people practicing it should do all they can to change their lives to normal, not my normal, God's normal and don't play like you don't know what "normal" is.
I want to use your post to point something out to the forum, because it is the greatest way I know of to bash to smithereens your lies.

According to this way of seeing orientation, according to what "Don" posts, EVERYONE is straight, and people who are gay are actually straight people "acting" gay and "being" gay -- in order to commit sin and subvert society.

Picture a bunch of college-age guys at a fraternity party.

According to "Don," the gay ones are IGNORING THE HOT WOMEN all around them and going for men they are NOT attracted to.

Insanely, by some logic only the antigay could understand, gay people are IGNORING all the hot people of the opposite sex in order to go for people of the same sex THEY DON'T WANT.

According to the antigay, they are doing this to annoy everyone else.

Last time I checked, everyone is going *naturally* for what they are attracted to; they don't lie to themselves unless they fall for rapist horse shit like "Don" is peddling here, and try to FORCE themselves to like the opposite sex.

I call "Don" out before the world for being a liar of the highest order, and I encourage EVERY last gay person to continue to believe in your own sacrosanct identity before god. If you listen to prevaricators and wheedlers and demons like "Don," people possessed of an evil that must be denounced at all costs, you will only make yourselves suffer. "Don" is a minion. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Don5163 wrote:
<quoted text>Let me validate everything I have said is a very few words: Homosexuality is not a valid lifestyle, it is a chosen way of life and should be changed. That's my final word on this.
good. thank you.
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Apr 26, 2012
 
Following is documenting how a huge supporter of the homosexual community got them in trouble after she bore witness to their goings-on:

www.topix.com/forum/city/los-angeles-ca/TDKUI...
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Semantics. Smokescreens. Strawman tactics.
Sodomy-based civil rights demands. When its all said and done, this all goes back to forcing society to embrace and celebrate sodomy by repackaging it as an innate "lifestyle",-in other words, polishing a turd. Also, The ex gays were the torpedo that sank the gay ocean liner, shall we say, the "S.S. Propaganda".
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Apr 26, 2012
 
"Identity" was the word i meant to put, not lifestyle.
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Semantics. Smokescreens. Strawman tactics.
Sodomy-based civil rights demands. When its all said and done, this all goes back to forcing society to embrace and celebrate sodomy by repackaging it as an innate "lifestyle",-in other words, polishing a turd. Also, The ex gays were the torpedo that sank the gay ocean liner, shall we say, the "S.S. Propaganda".
This is based on a false premise that you have some "moral supremacy" to claim above what you term to be "sodomy." You don't. You are a nobody somewhere who pisses, shits, and wakes up with morning breath. You are a carbon-based life form who will return to the dirt and be unknown to future generations. No one who disagrees with you philosophically will see you as anything but (at best) misguided and (at worst) the equivalent of a rapist or Nazi. This fight is unwinnable, sir/ma'am. People do not get their "moral guidance" from someone who condemns them WHILE NOT CONDEMNING OTHERS DOING THE SAME THING.

The deepest, most disturbing truth the antigay cannot stand is that if they condemn gay sex, they must condemn straight sex, which makes literally no sense at all. At their deepest level, human beings see like situations as alike; they *do not* separate people into classes without its having been inculcated into them that they "must" do so. This is *why* it's called: "prejudice."
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You are relying on a mistranslation and misinterpretation of a few verses that addressed abusive relationships and pagan ritual sex, not loving committed relationships.
Yet even the bible tells you that prejudice and discrimination cause suffering and death, and that harming others needlessly is immoral. Decades of science have confirmed the link between discrimination and harm.
"Several books already exist attempting to demonstrate that the Christian Bible does not, in fact, condemn consenting-adult homosexuality. But God is Not a Homophobe has a unique perspective in that the author has a lifetime of experience in pastoring hard-core fundamentalist churches. His former bitter opposition to all forms of homosexuality has given way to a rational, unbiased acceptance that the Bible says hardly anything about homosexuality, and what it does say cannot honestly be used to condemn consenting same-sex unions." "God is not a Homophobe: An unbiased look at Homosexuality in the Bible" by Philo Thelos
http://www.trafford.com/4dcgi/view-item...
The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." Galatians 5:14
You're lying and intentionally twisting the Bible for your selfish abnormal lifestyle...

You're to be greatly pitied as you have set yourself up as a teacher....

and the penalty is greater for those who intentionally mislead others with lies.i.e teachers.

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