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ashanti king
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Bigsmoke wrote: <quoted text>I see, wonder what the others will have to say. Honestly I don't know who is telling the truth though anyways. They can't say nothing about it because that's what I see around me. Aas make it seems as the biggest punishment you can make a person is to make him or her dark skin.
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“Miss Ethiopia”
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Bigsmoke wrote: <quoted text>
Yeah,''I am paralyzed from the waist down; wheelchair bound''*smh*.
I can't lie I have spent way too much time on here recently but I am not ''Sudanese'' sorry.
Did I hurt your feelings? Don't worry you can be an Arab in your next lfe. Stop lying, you are a lazy north Sudanese.
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Bigsmoke
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BLACK AMERICAN PRINCE wrote: <quoted text>
You denied that most Jamaicans were dark when you claimed the average Jamaican is the same skin tone as Barack Obama, a mixed-race man. How foolish! I never denied most Jamaicans are dark! I am saying that the ones you show do not look like the ones I see on the daily yes even the dark ones here are not as dark as the ones you lot show me in Jamaica and NYC or something. Many here look like Busta Rhymes to Kano then of course you have the Usain Bolt ones. It is a good range but all three are not out of the norm and I can't say how most Jamaican Brits look. BLACK AMERICAN PRINCE wrote: <quoted text>
The Jamaicans in the UK may indeed look phenotypically distinct from Caribbean and American Jamaicans, but your excuse that it is due to climate variation does not hold up, given that they look the same in Jamaica as well as the United States (New York City, particularly) which are in completely different climate zones.
In the US Africans are one of the wealthiest, most educated groups and yet they still look like the people in those aid adverts, just cleaned up and healthier. So once again, while standard of living will obviously make someone look healthier and thus more attractive, it is ridiculous to claim that it will change their racial features. According to you, Jamaicans who move to the UK get lighter, their noses get thinner, bone structure becomes more angular, hell what next does their hair fall straight and start coming in blonde?
LMAO
I don't find anything hard to believe, what I am disputing is your "climate variation" theory and offering a different explanation for why the Jamaicans in the UK look less Sub-Saharan than the ones in America and Jamaica. And yes, it's obviously because they're more mixed, even your own photos showed that.
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Because that would include white Americans, who had nothing to do with creating it. Further, it would defeat the purpose. The UK has lower UV-ray level than NYC but yeah you're right both are in the same temperate climate zone. NYC has the same UV-Ray level as southern Europe, Spain, Italy etc. LOL no I never claimed people start shape shifting into white people I say they're lighter, taller and essentially better kept than their tropical counterpats. Somehting even the poorest ''African Americans'' are accoustmed to. Yeah they're probably more mixed than the ones you lot get in the USA but not from mixing in the UK.
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“You can't handle the truth.”
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Bigsmoke wrote: <quoted text>
Yeah and clearly that should show you I wasn't posting the images to compare with otherwise I wouldn't of posted people who are clearly darker than you. OK. Bigsmoke wrote: <quoted text>
Well that could in fact be the case because I forgot about the immigrant photos from back then.
But I am sure climate plays a role. You may find this hard to believe but I know dark skin African descent women and I mean dark, who visited Africa and came back with tan lines! They were like the tone of Akon upon arving back with their usual tone staying the same where they were covered up. So clearly the sun in the tropics is something else if it can be doing that. So they're dark already but would be even darker if living in the tropics! Well of course, I've seen dark-skinned people with tan lines. I never understood why people don't think black people tan, I've even seen pictures of Nilotics with tan lines. But the thing is, at some point when you live in the South your skin will tan to it's maximum potential then stop and stay like that forever basically, unless you move to a cold climate and stay there for years, then it will start to fade. That's why I didn't think living in the tropics would make that big of a difference in terms of skin tone, because living in the Sub-Tropics at some point you are going to tan as much as you possibly can anyway. In the southern United States winter only occurs about 3 months out of the year, the rest is summer with no fall/spring inbetween so people generally don't lose their tan unless they're white. Like I said, most of the black people in the Deep South have tan lines, even the dark ones, and they are permanent. Bigsmoke wrote: <quoted text>
I am not childish, I only said that after Dirtydiaomond and others who are in the USA show such different people for being the average. No, you did the same thing with the hair texture discussion, now with the general looks discussion, it's amazing how you can pass judgment on how a group of people you've never actually seen in real life look. At the end of the day the African-Americans will know better than anyone, just like I'm not arguing with you about Jamaican-British people even though I rarely see Jamaicans who look like that myself in the US.
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C-Rock310
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ashanti king wrote: <quoted text>
Is a lie because I live in Philly and the ones that I see are medium brown to dark chocolate. I see more aas with different eye colors than aas that look like barrack. Philly, and Los Angeles have two different migration patterns. Most AA's in Philly are from Virginia, and Maryland, and most AA's in Los Angeles are from Louisiana, and Texas. Alot of AA's in Los Angeles are Louisiana Creoles, and they intermixed with the AA population. I know an older AA man who looks exactly like Barack Obama, lol.
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Bigsmoke
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BLACK AMERICAN PRINCE wrote: <quoted text>
That has absolutely nothing to do with you just accusing me of posting pictures of Obama as examples of what the average AA looks like, stop trying to change the subject now that you've failed to find proof of me doing so.
I'm not trying to change the subject, you called him black...
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Yes, BLACK Brits, not random girls of whom you have no proof of being black!
LMAO LOL stop playing games! You asked for differnet coloured eyed Black Brits and I showed you. BLACK AMERICAN PRINCE wrote: <quoted text>
North Sudan has all kinds of people, and that girl doesn't look like she has a drop of black in her so how are we even supposed to know the bitch is black? What is her name, I'll look her up for myself, in the meantime you have no proof that either one of her parents are black, much less that BOTH of her parents are black.
LMAO, pathetic, you are really reaching. Why do you hate her so much that you refer to her as ''bltch''? What did she do to you? Her name is; ''Natalie Suliman'' Her mum is confirmed Sudanese: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/24... Quote (6th to last paragraph): ''Natalie’s mum, Layla, is Sudanese and it is from her that she inherited her skin colour.'' Hmm. She inherited her skin colour from Sudanese (clearly North Sudanese) mum? Also her surname is Arabic just like the North Sudanese are depserate to be and speak. So that makes me feel her dad is also North Sudanese descent. But you're actually right she may be Mixed Race as I instead searched her name up with Biracail in stead of mixed race and there were some results but its not her saying it. As far as I'm concered she's just North Sudanese descent; Black. BLACK AMERICAN PRINCE wrote: <quoted text>
Well bitch you aren't on a British site, you're on an American one and you need to spell things correctly.
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C-Rock310
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Bigsmoke wrote: <quoted text>
Post the photos of what you consider the average ''African American'' skin tone wise mainly.
Bria Myles?
Snoop Dogg?
Meagan Good?
Chris Brown?
Lolo Jones?- Is she even ''African American'' of ''Biracial''?
I think that is the general ranges...
Which one of their skin tones is most common you say? I'd say the average where I live in Los Angeles, and in the Northern States are Meagan Good and Snoop Dogg, Chris Brown is about even with Bria Myles with Lolo Jones being the least common. In the Deep South, Lolo Jones would be rare, Chris Brown would be less common, and Bria Myles and Snoop Dogg would be the most common.
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Bigsmoke
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dont we all prefer that lol I hate people that speed though. I've been in 4 car crashes in the last 4 years, I keep bad company I guess.
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“You can't handle the truth.”
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I swear the USA is strange. Not only do you lot receive different looking Jamaicans you also receive Africans who supposidly think they're superior and look down on the ''diaspora'' and even drive cabs!! Yes, this is all true lol. You have to remember that the US has a much stricter immigration policy towards Africans than the UK does so the Africans who immigrate to the United States are not the average African, they are more top notch and are usually required to have a bachelor's degree when they arrive. So when they come in contact with ghetto blacks they are often mortified, especially because African-Americans, particularly lower-class ones, can be very mean and condescending in their own way. Those who come as refugees, or are not from English-speaking African countries, tend to be the poorer ones who drive cabs: Ethiopians, Somalians, Senegalese, etc. while Nigerians and Ghanaians tend to be the stereotypically successful ones. And yes, the Jamaicans in the US tend to look like the ones from Jamaica, I rarely see ones that look like Kano. In the rare instances that they aren't dark, they are almost always light, giving the impression that there is little middle-ground when it comes to Jamaican phenotypes. Bigsmoke wrote: <quoted text>
Not always, genetics can be random as hell. Remeber Don Cheadle is 81% African and looks very stereotypically Central-West African with a huge nose. You look like 75% African yet you're 61% Dirtydiamond also looks around 60 - 70% African yet she's probably below 50% African. I am going by those in my family and who I know with these percentage-looks.
There is also this Afro-Brazilian man who looks more ''African'' than you both but is mainly European.
So I think we shouldn't even go there with the guessing percentages from looks alone. DNA and phenotype tell two different stories. I think dirtydiamond and I look a bit different in real life than we are perceived from our pictures, because often when you see one picture of someone you don't get the full impression of what they look like and might imagine them looking different. For instance, my eyes might make me look more mixed, while dirtydiamond's hair is probably real, lol, which would make her look more mixed. I can see a European influence in Don Cheadle's face and if you're African-American and are used to seeing light-skinned parents give birth to dark-skinned children you start being able to see the features in the child's face/body type/hair texture even when they are dark. So to most African-Americans Don Cheadle wouldn't come as a surprise. However, that Brazilian guy would, but that's Brazil which is like a racial twilight zone compared to the US. But generally, there is a stereotypical look those of us who discuss things like this would associate with 70-85% CW African, and it looks like this: http://c684645.r45.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-content... http://www.afronerdz.com/wp-content/uploads/2... http://live.drjays.com/wp-content/uploads/200... http://static.taletela.com/gallery/4690685_25... http://www.thisisrnb.com/wp-content/uploads/2... http://www.images99.com/i99/03/83656/83656.pn...
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I never denied most Jamaicans are dark! I am saying that the ones you show do not look like the ones I see on the daily yes even the dark ones here are not as dark as the ones you lot show me in Jamaica and NYC or something.
Many here look like Busta Rhymes to Kano then of course you have the Usain Bolt ones. It is a good range but all three are not out of the norm and I can't say how most Jamaican Brits look. OK. In the US it's more Busta Rhymes to Usain Bolt. Bigsmoke wrote: <quoted text>
The UK has lower UV-ray level than NYC but yeah you're right both are in the same temperate climate zone. NYC has the same UV-Ray level as southern Europe, Spain, Italy etc.
LOL no I never claimed people start shape shifting into white people I say they're lighter, taller and essentially better kept than their tropical counterpats. Somehting even the poorest ''African Americans'' are accoustmed to.
Yeah they're probably more mixed than the ones you lot get in the USA but not from mixing in the UK. I wonder what drove those particular Jamaicans to move to the UK as opposed to the United States? Perhaps because they couldn't get into the United States as easily back then, so the upper crust of Jamaica went to Britain while later generations that came to the US were less affluent overall.
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C-Rock310
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BLACK AMERICAN PRINCE wrote: <quoted text> Yes, this is all true lol. You have to remember that the US has a much stricter immigration policy towards Africans than the UK does so the Africans who immigrate to the United States are not the average African, they are more top notch and are usually required to have a bachelor's degree when they arrive. So when they come in contact with ghetto blacks they are often mortified, especially because African-Americans, particularly lower-class ones, can be very mean and condescending in their own way. Those who come as refugees, or are not from English-speaking African countries, tend to be the poorer ones who drive cabs: Ethiopians, Somalians, Senegalese, etc. while Nigerians and Ghanaians tend to be the stereotypically successful ones. And yes, the Jamaicans in the US tend to look like the ones from Jamaica, I rarely see ones that look like Kano. In the rare instances that they aren't dark, they are almost always light, giving the impression that there is little middle-ground when it comes to Jamaican phenotypes. <quoted text> I think dirtydiamond and I look a bit different in real life than we are perceived from our pictures, because often when you see one picture of someone you don't get the full impression of what they look like and might imagine them looking different. For instance, my eyes might make me look more mixed, while dirtydiamond's hair is probably real, lol, which would make her look more mixed. I can see a European influence in Don Cheadle's face and if you're African-American and are used to seeing light-skinned parents give birth to dark-skinned children you start being able to see the features in the child's face/body type/hair texture even when they are dark. So to most African-Americans Don Cheadle wouldn't come as a surprise. However, that Brazilian guy would, but that's Brazil which is like a racial twilight zone compared to the US. But generally, there is a stereotypical look those of us who discuss things like this would associate with 70-85% CW African, and it looks like this: http://c684645.r45.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-content... http://www.afronerdz.com/wp-content/uploads/2... http://live.drjays.com/wp-content/uploads/200... http://static.taletela.com/gallery/4690685_25... http://www.thisisrnb.com/wp-content/uploads/2... http://www.images99.com/i99/03/83656/83656.pn... Bingo. That's what most AA's look like anywhere in the country. AA's who look heavily mixed like these are a small minority of the population. http://www.atlantaphotos.com/images/images_bi... http://www.cristyli.com/wp-content/uploads/20... http://static4.imagecollect.com/preview/136/3... http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/tinak.jpg While AA's who look unimxed West/Central African are more common than the heavily mixed Lightskinned types. But overall a minority compared to the examples ABM posted above. http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2004/04/gall... http://thekortneyshanepillar.files.wordpress.... http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/363457/... http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/spotl... http://styleblazer.com/wp-content/uploads/201...
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Bigsmoke
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BLACK AMERICAN PRINCE wrote: <quoted text>
Yes, this is all true lol.
You have to remember that the US has a much stricter immigration policy towards Africans than the UK does so the Africans who immigrate to the United States are not the average African, they are more top notch and are usually required to have a bachelor's degree when they arrive. So when they come in contact with ghetto blacks they are often mortified, especially because African-Americans, particularly lower-class ones, can be very mean and condescending in their own way.
Those who come as refugees, or are not from English-speaking African countries, tend to be the poorer ones who drive cabs: Ethiopians, Somalians, Senegalese, etc. while Nigerians and Ghanaians tend to be the stereotypically successful ones.
And yes, the Jamaicans in the US tend to look like the ones from Jamaica, I rarely see ones that look like Kano. In the rare instances that they aren't dark, they are almost always light, giving the impression that there is little middle-ground when it comes to Jamaican phenotypes. I see. South Asians almost exclusively drive cabs in London and every major city. I see the poor Africans being the people who stand in club toilets, cleaning toilets, driving public transport and work in care homes while their UK born kids either excell in school or join gangs then after some time they go back to Africa leaving their descendants here. BLACK AMERICAN PRINCE wrote: <quoted text>
I think dirtydiamond and I look a bit different in real life than we are perceived from our pictures, because often when you see one picture of someone you don't get the full impression of what they look like and might imagine them looking different. For instance, my eyes might make me look more mixed, while dirtydiamond's hair is probably real, lol, which would make her look more mixed.
I can see a European influence in Don Cheadle's face and if you're African-American and are used to seeing light-skinned parents give birth to dark-skinned children you start being able to see the features in the child's face/body type/hair texture even when they are dark. So to most African-Americans Don Cheadle wouldn't come as a surprise.
However, that Brazilian guy would, but that's Brazil which is like a racial twilight zone compared to the US.
But generally, there is a stereotypical look those of us who discuss things like this would associate with 70-85% CW African Honestly I can't see the European influence in Don Cheadle. Yeah Brazil is a good example of how race isn't DNA defined. BLACK AMERICAN PRINCE wrote: So you say most ''African Americnas'' look like those?
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Bigsmoke
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BLACK AMERICAN PRINCE wrote: <quoted text>
OK. In the US it's more Busta Rhymes to Usain Bolt.
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I wonder what drove those particular Jamaicans to move to the UK as opposed to the United States? Perhaps because they couldn't get into the United States as easily back then, so the upper crust of Jamaica went to Britain while later generations that came to the US were less affluent overall. It was due to post WW2 devastation of this country which needed rebuilding and employment shortage that Britain encouraged members of the Empire to migrate to the UK. Also between 1948 - 1962 any citizen of the British Empire could migrate to the UK, no visa needed easy entry. Strange enough not that many came anyways. If the upper classes of Jamaica have always been lighter or heavily mixed this might just be the reason why as they cam here and multiplied from 250,000 to 800,000 in a few decades.
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“about 2 be a mini me”
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ashanti king
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BLACK AMERICAN PRINCE wrote: <quoted text>Yes, this is all true lol. You have to remember that the US has a much stricter immigration policy towards Africans than the UK does so the Africans who immigrate to the United States are not the average African, they are more top notch and are usually required to have a bachelor's degree when they arrive. So when they come in contact with ghetto blacks they are often mortified, especially because African-Americans, particularly lower-class ones, can be very mean and condescending in their own way. Those who come as refugees, or are not from English-speaking African countries, tend to be the poorer ones who drive cabs: Ethiopians, Somalians, Senegalese, etc. while Nigerians and Ghanaians tend to be the stereotypically successful ones. And yes, the Jamaicans in the US tend to look like the ones from Jamaica, I rarely see ones that look like Kano. In the rare instances that they aren't dark, they are almost always light, giving the impression that there is little middle-ground when it comes to Jamaican phenotypes. Bigsmoke wrote, "<quoted text> Not always, genetics can be random as hell. Remeber Don Cheadle is 81% African and looks very stereotypically Central-West African with a huge nose. You look like 75% African yet you're 61% Dirtydiamond also looks around 60 - 70% African yet she's probably below 50% African. I am going by those in my family and who I know with these percentage-looks. There is also this Afro-Brazilian man who looks more ''African'' than you both but is mainly European. So I think we shouldn't even go there with the guessing percentages from looks alone. DNA and phenotype tell two different stories." I think dirtydiamond and I look a bit different in real life than we are perceived from our pictures, because often when you see one picture of someone you don't get the full impression of what they look like and might imagine them looking different. For instance, my eyes might make me look more mixed, while dirtydiamond's hair is probably real, lol, which would make her look more mixed. I can see a European influence in Don Cheadle's face and if you're African-American and are used to seeing light-skinned parents give birth to dark-skinned children you start being able to see the features in the child's face/body type/hair texture even when they are dark. So to most African-Americans Don Cheadle wouldn't come as a surprise. However, that Brazilian guy would, but that's Brazil which is like a racial twilight zone compared to the US. But generally, there is a stereotypical look those of us who discuss things like this would associate with 70-85% CW African, and it looks like this: http://c684645.r45.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-content... http://www.afronerdz.com/wp-content/uploads/2... http://live.drjays.com/wp-content/uploads/200... http://static.taletela.com/gallery/4690685_25... http://www.thisisrnb.com/wp-content/uploads/2... http://www.images99.com/i99/03/83656/83656.pn... You are wrong, how many times do i have to tell you. Africans that comes to America are not top notch, just more determined. The Africans that comes here are the ones who did not have anything to begin with in Africa. They are the same ones taking care of their relatives back home. Which Africans are still in Africa, because the system benefits them. Africans are known as the most educated immigrants because we know what life is without education and we don't want to go back there. Is not that Africans are smarter than aas. It just the determination. All immigrants has that.
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Bigsmoke wrote: <quoted text>
My student; ''SEXYBLKWOMAN'' has confirmed my whole point meaning she has learnt. Now you want to deny the obvious. Bantus are new peoples yeah we all have ancestry going back billions of years so what we've only had Sapien Human ones for the last 200,000 years and Bantus have only existed for the last 3,000 years. Their ancestors were not Bantus.
Who was talking about being ''advanced''? No group is more advanced that the other as people it is culture. Ghanian culture seems more advanced than North Sudanese but DR Congo is worse probably one of the worst in the world.
I already expressed all of that and I am 21 or according to some I am really either a 22 year old pretending to be 21 or a 45 year old. I haven't confirmed any post and I definitely won't be taking lessons from an uneducated welfare case like you, As stands haplos in Bantus are older than Afro-Asiatics so yes Bantus are older.
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“You can't handle the truth.”
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Bigsmoke wrote: <quoted text> LOL stop playing games! You asked for differnet coloured eyed Black Brits and I showed you. <quoted text> Why do you hate her so much that you refer to her as ''bltch''? What did she do to you? Her name is; ''Natalie Suliman'' Her mum is confirmed Sudanese: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/24... Quote (6th to last paragraph): ''Natalie’s mum, Layla, is Sudanese and it is from her that she inherited her skin colour.'' Hmm. She inherited her skin colour from Sudanese (clearly North Sudanese) mum? Also her surname is Arabic just like the North Sudanese are depserate to be and speak. So that makes me feel her dad is also North Sudanese descent. But you're actually right she may be Mixed Race as I instead searched her name up with Biracail in stead of mixed race and there were some results but its not her saying it. As far as I'm concered she's just North Sudanese descent; Black. <quoted text> I'm African-American, we call women bitches it's nothing personal. We can put this to rest right now, her father's white British: http://ohyeahsudan.tumblr.com/post/2223226984... Read beneath her picture, it says "1/2 Sudanese and 1/2 British model Natalie Suliman" ...I told you.
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I'd say the average where I live in Los Angeles, and in the Northern States are Meagan Good and Snoop Dogg, Chris Brown is about even with Bria Myles with Lolo Jones being the least common. In the Deep South, Lolo Jones would be rare, Chris Brown would be less common, and Bria Myles and Snoop Dogg would be the most common. I don't think Chris Brown would be uncommon in the Deep South at all.
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"Black People" come from Africa so I don't see what the real competition is. Yeah! I look better than myself, is that what you're going to say to yourself. We're all the same. There is no "real reason".
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