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Jul 1, 2008

The Bridge: Black Men Hate Black Women

*Now that I have your attention, you have to know that the title is far from the truth. At least it is for any sane person, but not for a growing number of Black women who are now using the R. Kelly acquittal to bolster their claim that Black men hate Black women. Before I deal with that, let me tell you a story.

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Interesting article. I don't feel it is my position as a black man to tell a woman what to do with her body. I enjoy looking at the women in the video and find nothing wrong with it. The women in the videos are paid for what they do, and are there because they want to be there. yes there is a market for it so that is why they are there, but it is still their choice. Just like you hear women complaining that in music they are refered to as bi*@hes and hoes, but then you hear a woman in the car next to you blasting the song and enjoying the music. I think people in general are too sensitive. It is like when someone says something that upsets you, you get upset because it pertains to you and it is truthful so people want to defend their actions. If you are not a bi*@h or a hoe, you should not be upset by this music. Listen to JAY-Z's song, sistas vs bi*@ches. When y ou live trif people call you out on it and if the shoe fits wear it, or buy your own (meaning change your ways)

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Bravo! Bravissimo!*whistles & claps*
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Black men do hate Black women. You want to talk about Black women choosing to be in those videos, how about talking about why Black men make it an avenue for them in the first place? Don't tell me you ingrate Black men think these women force their way into the video? They are answering auditions and calls from Black men and Black execs who make it fashionable to degrade Black women. If Black men wanted modesty and respect for Black women they would demand it in their videos because after all it is their video and they have that choice. But the want to see Black women degraded so they keep their mouths closed.

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Interesting article. I don't feel it is my position as a black man to tell a woman what to do with her body. I enjoy looking at the women in the video and find nothing wrong with it. The women in the videos are paid for what they do, and are there because they want to be there. yes there is a market for it so that is why they are there, but it is still their choice. Just like you hear women complaining that in music they are refered to as bi*@hes and hoes, but then you hear a woman in the car next to you blasting the song and enjoying the music. I think people in general are too sensitive. It is like when someone says something that upsets you, you get upset because it pertains to you and it is truthful so people want to defend their actions. If you are not a bi*@h or a hoe, you should not be upset by this music. Listen to JAY-Z's song, sistas vs bi*@ches. When y ou live trif people call you out on it and if the shoe fits wear it, or buy your own (meaning change your ways)
TYRANT cosigns.

The same can be said about black women who participate in the porn industry.

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Black men do hate Black women. You want to talk about Black women choosing to be in those videos, how about talking about why Black men make it an avenue for them in the first place? Don't tell me you ingrate Black men think these women force their way into the video? They are answering auditions and calls from Black men and Black execs who make it fashionable to degrade Black women. If Black men wanted modesty and respect for Black women they would demand it in their videos because after all it is their video and they have that choice. But the want to see Black women degraded so they keep their mouths closed.
I want an honest answer from you. What do you think of the HUNDREDS of youtube black women shacking their azz for the world to see.

These girls are in their own room. They choose to make these videos. Nobody is forcing them to open an account on Youtube, and shake their azz. They are doing this with their own free will.

I guess black men force them to register with youtube, and upload these videos also. Woman Please.

When does a woman have responsibility for her own life? You IR women constantly say black men blame whitey. Well you IR black women constantly blame black men. I swear if you ever burnt your tongue on a pizza, that's black mens fault also. jeez.
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That is a very good article.

No, black men do not hate black women. Hating black women would be insisting they stay covered so no one can view them. Hating them would be to take away the choice for them to appear in videos or practically anything where they can be seen.

I don't really think these video are a big deal. We see white women all the time in porn and "Girls Gone Wild" videos. Nobody says a word. Now R. Kelly gets acquitted and all of a sudden black men are guilty of hating black women?

Whatever!

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Black men do hate Black women. You want to talk about Black women choosing to be in those videos, how about talking about why Black men make it an avenue for them in the first place? Don't tell me you ingrate Black men think these women force their way into the video? They are answering auditions and calls from Black men and Black execs who make it fashionable to degrade Black women. If Black men wanted modesty and respect for Black women they would demand it in their videos because after all it is their video and they have that choice. But the want to see Black women degraded so they keep their mouths closed.
That's crap and you knew it when you wrote it. That's like me trying to blame McDonald's for all the fat people in there eating. Nobody makes these women get on stage and demean themselves. Who cares what kind of casting call went out? If they had any respect for themselves they wouldn't have answered it. Then these same women want their men to take the wrap for them being objectified. Then they take it further and want to be treated respectfully like adults in society. Then they take it further yet again and try and claim that THEY are the real liberated, strong black women and that the others who choose not to shake their asses soon as the beat drops, aren't. A little bit of accountability would go a long way with these types of women, imo...

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Also: In general, people will only give you as much respect as you make them give you. These girls need to get a grip.

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WrningSgn wrote:
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I want an honest answer from you. What do you think of the HUNDREDS of youtube black women shacking their azz for the world to see.
These girls are in their own room. They choose to make these videos. Nobody is forcing them to open an account on Youtube, and shake their azz. They are doing this with their own free will.
I guess black men force them to register with youtube, and upload these videos also. Woman Please.
When does a woman have responsibility for her own life? You IR women constantly say black men blame whitey. Well you IR black women constantly blame black men. I swear if you ever burnt your tongue on a pizza, that's black mens fault also. jeez.
TYRANT cosigns.

Pretty soon, black women will even blame us for global warming.
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I'd say women in general like to complain about men. It's not fair to single out black women here when it comes to bashing men. I've painfully sat through Women's Studies classes in college where the topics were "male as norm" and how we've all dissed the women.
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I want an honest answer from you. What do you think of the HUNDREDS of youtube black women shacking their azz for the world to see.
These girls are in their own room. They choose to make these videos. Nobody is forcing them to open an account on Youtube, and shake their azz. They are doing this with their own free will.
I guess black men force them to register with youtube, and upload these videos also. Woman Please.
When does a woman have responsibility for her own life? You IR women constantly say black men blame whitey. Well you IR black women constantly blame black men. I swear if you ever burnt your tongue on a pizza, that's black mens fault also. jeez.
THEY ARE DOING IT BECAUSE THESE BLACK MEN HAVE CREATED AN AVENUE FOR IT. THEY HAVE MADE IT THE ONLY WAY TO GET MALE ATTENTION. And since as we all know Black male run out on their daughters and sons and basically give them no hope from the beginning because they have no male figure in their lives, they are going to seek that male attention out in ridiculous ways. It all comes down to Black men caring about what their dicks tell them to do and nothing else. That is why they abandon their kids. That is why they see obviously pathological behavior from some women and instead of condemning it, profiting from it. And then not only do they profit from it, they begin to associate all Black women with the particular actions of the few who are only apart of the monster that THEY created.

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what is happening is black men have learned that one way to get ahead in america is to exploit black women,the black man has been participating in the explotation of black women before our ancestors were ever brought over on slave ships.take a look at the wealth that this country has attained all at the expense of black women and using their bodies to REPRODUCE, more workers to work on the plantation,there was no keeper at the gate to protect her.now look at the way the black music PRODUCERS of today use black womens bodies on videos to BOOST record sales,do you see the common practice here...degrade black women to UPLIFT himself,and still there are no gate keepers.next they will be going after the little girls 7,8 9 or 10 years old and puting her on videos to make himself weatlthy.the men that are promoting this are just as bad as the white slave master,as a matter of fact he is the new slave master,he is just a chocolate coated white boy in disguise.

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TYRANT wrote:
<quoted text> TYRANT cosigns.
Pretty soon, black women will even blame us for global warming.
But I don't think its all black women. Its just these crazy IR promoting women who despise black men. lol Its like they don't want to take ANY responsibility at all for what happens in their live.

This actually makes sense, that is why they believe a non-black man preferable a white man, will bring fulfillment to their lives. The truth about it is that doesn't. That's why the few that are actually dating white men, still come here to complain. These women still don't get it.

I call it the little princess syndrome.

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THEY ARE DOING IT BECAUSE THESE BLACK MEN HAVE CREATED AN AVENUE FOR IT. THEY HAVE MADE IT THE ONLY WAY TO GET MALE ATTENTION. And since as we all know Black male run out on their daughters and sons and basically give them no hope from the beginning because they have no male figure in their lives, they are going to seek that male attention out in ridiculous ways. It all comes down to Black men caring about what their dicks tell them to do and nothing else. That is why they abandon their kids. That is why they see obviously pathological behavior from some women and instead of condemning it, profiting from it. And then not only do they profit from it, they begin to associate all Black women with the particular actions of the few who are only apart of the monster that THEY created.
lmao. Read my question, and then look at your response. You will see just how ridiculous your statement really is.

You should do some research. Check out some of these disgusting videos, but instead of looking at the girls. Check out their environment.

Examine the Closed locked door. Examine the teddy bears. Examine the diplomas on the wall. The majority of these girls are from good stable homes. They are college educated women. They are not Ghetto Hood rats. Yet they are still shaking their azz on youtube.

If you would be honest with yourself for one second and actually watch. You would see that I'm right.

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denita d wrote:
what is happening is black men have learned that one way to get ahead in america is to exploit black women,the black man has been participating in the explotation of black women before our ancestors were ever brought over on slave ships.take a look at the wealth that this country has attained all at the expense of black women and using their bodies to REPRODUCE, more workers to work on the plantation,there was no keeper at the gate to protect her.now look at the way the black music PRODUCERS of today use black womens bodies on videos to BOOST record sales,do you see the common practice here...degrade black women to UPLIFT himself,and still there are no gate keepers.next they will be going after the little girls 7,8 9 or 10 years old and puting her on videos to make himself weatlthy.the men that are promoting this are just as bad as the white slave master,as a matter of fact he is the new slave master,he is just a chocolate coated white boy in disguise.
So why isn't it her fault then? Nobody is holding a gun to their head. So the girls who pull out their titties for mardi gras is men's fault too huh?

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Is this the kind of ignorance some of the women in our community have swimming around in their heads on a daily basis? How about you stop making excuses for your sisters and HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. We could have these circular arguments all day, but what it comes down to at the end of the day is that these women are autonomous humans capable of making their own decisions. They aren't slaves. They aren't being forced. They are choosing to do what they do. We could boohoo all day about black producers exploiting sex to advance their business, but how is that any different than what white people do? Sex sells, remember? But the only way you can sell sex is if you have a willing female participant. We all know nobody's going to watch a rap video to see some bruh's johnson flopping around. Come on people.*smh*
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That's crap and you knew it when you wrote it. That's like me trying to blame McDonald's for all the fat people in there eating. Nobody makes these women get on stage and demean themselves. Who cares what kind of casting call went out? If they had any respect for themselves they wouldn't have answered it. Then these same women want their men to take the wrap for them being objectified. Then they take it further and want to be treated respectfully like adults in society. Then they take it further yet again and try and claim that THEY are the real liberated, strong black women and that the others who choose not to shake their asses soon as the beat drops, aren't. A little bit of accountability would go a long way with these types of women, imo...
Hmm lets see, Black men deceive women openly and purposely and then blame Black women for believing them. Black men run out on their children and then blame Black women for having them with them. Black men pour millions of dollars into the degradation of Black women and then blame Black women for participating in it without acknowledging the fact that they are cheering on the sidelines for it. Black men don't graduate and then blame Black women for their lack of education (because of course the Black mother who stuck around is to blame for this and not the absent Black father). Black men don't get jobs and blame Black women for teaming up with white men and taking their jobs (pathetic). Black men go to jail and murder themselves in the streets and blame Black women (their mothers again of course). Should I go on?

How ironic it is for Black men of all people to talk about accepting accountability.

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WrningSgn wrote:
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But I don't think its all black women. Its just these crazy IR promoting women who despise black men. lol Its like they don't want to take ANY responsibility at all for what happens in their live.
This actually makes sense, that is why they believe a non-black man preferable a white man, will bring fulfillment to their lives. The truth about it is that doesn't. That's why the few that are actually dating white men, still come here to complain. These women still don't get it.
I call it the little princess syndrome.
Warning, you're right, black women DON'T want to take any responsibility for the choices they make in their lives. If you listen to these STUPID IR babes talk, they'll have you believing that they were INNOCENT BYSTANDERS in their own lives. Like they were just standing there, minding their own business, when a black men came along, forced them to have a BAD RELATIONSHIPS with them and DUMPED them.

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And really, give some thought to what my mans WrningSgn is saying. Explain these girls on YouTube if you're so confident in your theory. Nobody's making them do this. They're choosing to. They're bored at home alone in their rooms with a camera and choose to do it.

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denita d wrote:
what is happening is black men have learned that one way to get ahead in america is to exploit black women,the black man has been participating in the explotation of black women before our ancestors were ever brought over on slave ships.take a look at the wealth that this country has attained all at the expense of black women and using their bodies to REPRODUCE, more workers to work on the plantation,there was no keeper at the gate to protect her.now look at the way the black music PRODUCERS of today use black womens bodies on videos to BOOST record sales,do you see the common practice here...degrade black women to UPLIFT himself,and still there are no gate keepers.next they will be going after the little girls 7,8 9 or 10 years old and puting her on videos to make himself weatlthy.the men that are promoting this are just as bad as the white slave master,as a matter of fact he is the new slave master,he is just a chocolate coated white boy in disguise.
Oh great, so I'm now being BLAMED for SLAVERY and EVERYTHING that happened to black women during SLAVERY. Denita, just put it on my tab and add it to the list of WAR CRIMES I've already committed.

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