Whitney Houston has died

silky smoothy wrote:

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LOL White men like you are jokes.
Billie Holiday, Dorothy Dandridge were married to White men who abused and squandered their cash. They died in their forties because of drug and alcohol abuse.
So shut up thinking you're White butt don't stink. You people have made exploiting women a commercial career.

kati wrote:

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Yep. This isn't a race thing.

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Cogito2 wrote:

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If you can hang around for about an hour, your trophy will be delivered by a special messenger. Your above comments are succinct and truthful. I loved whitney, however, we must embrace the message of her faux pas and hopefully they will serve a meaningful purpose in the lives of someone else; not sugar coat it and assign blame to someone else, absolving her of responsibility for her own choices.

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selina london wrote:

Okay as you are all upset one way or another, go and buy one of Whitney's songs on itunes so that her daughter can have some financial stability.

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a--x--e wrote:

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Or not made the STUPID decision to go with this obvious loser in the first place.
Brown is trash, I'll agree with you on that, Carol, but you should just stop trying to excuse the choices that SHE made. It makes you look foolish.
Nobody put a gun to her head to get with this talentless hack in the first place.

selina london wrote:

Okay as you are all upset one way or another, go and buy one of Whitney's songs on itunes so that her daughter can have some financial stability.

a--x--e wrote:

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Did you read the same post I did???
Obviously, it IS a race thing for silky.

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Go Blue wrote:

<quoted text> Yeah, what a role model on healthy living....

LouisianaEmperor7 wrote:

<quoted text> Whitney and Bobby both come from the ghetto. Her from Jersey, him from Boston. Both became successful at a tender age and both were using drugs before they met each other. I didn't say he didn't contribute to her addiction, but he is not the one that got her addicted. Bottom line, she should have never used drugs from the jump, and had she not pursued Bobby, then he would not have been able to contribute to her dependency. This all boils down to Ms. Houston making bad decision that brought an untimely and tragic end to such a beautiful and promising life. I am personally hurt by this. But I cannot allow you the opportunity to use this tragedy as another reason to bash black men. I love Ms. Houston's music, and she was a beautiful lady. But she made these bad decisions on her own.
May God be with Ms Houston's family and bestow peace and blessings on them. I pray that if there is a heaven, she is doing with she do best, and that's adding her beautiful voice amongst the angels.
Rest In Peace Whitney Houston. You will be missed, and you are forever loved.

bappie wrote:

<quoted text>No one forced Whitney to take drugs and ultimately, that choice may have led to her demise.
Whitney was fascinated with Bobby. The bad boy image is appealing to a lot of women and Whitney was no different. Perhaps she did light drugs before she met him. What man would want to introduce the woman he loves and values to such an addicting drug? Aren't our men supposed to be our protectors and providers? Didn't he know what was on the line as far as her career? No one held her down and forced drugs into her, but perhaps trying to fit in with his crowd and hang tough she tried it, got hooked and couldn't shake it.
This is the crux of the issue here. People who love you want the best for you and they're supposed to love, protect and honor you and he did not. He enabled her and he did drugs with her and it destroyed what was left of his career and hers and there's no getting past this. Whitney's mother hated Bobby Brown and threathened to kill him. She snatched her daughter from his clutches and forced her into rehab. When Whitney got out, he was right there waiting to enable her. In the end, it's her fault for not seeking help for her addiction and we can all agree on that, but he doesn't get off scott free because her loving him and wanting to be with him and do what he was doing contributed to her downfall. Everyone knows when you fall in love with someone it makes you vunerable. Some women are lucky and get a good man and others aren't so lucky.
I read bm on this thread saying it's Whitney's fault and trying desperately to absolve Bobby. As black men aren't you supposed to be bw's protectors, lovers, friends, fathers of their children, providers, etc.? Yet all some of you do is bash bw and the bashing and excuse making regarding Bobby's role in Whitney's downfall is disgusting and I don't care who agrees or doesn't agree with me.
I know one damn thing, none of bm enablers would want someone like him as a husband or boyfriend for your daughters, that's for damn sure!

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bappie wrote:

<quoted text>No one forced Whitney to take drugs and ultimately, that choice may have led to her demise.
Whitney was fascinated with Bobby. The bad boy image is appealing to a lot of women and Whitney was no different. Despite the disapproval of her family, friends and fans, she fell in love with him. Obviously he turned her out. What man would want to introduce the woman he loves and values to such an addicting drug? Aren't our men supposed to be our protectors and providers? Didn't he know what was on the line as far as her career? No one held her down and forced drugs into her, but perhaps trying to fit in with his crowd and hang tough she tried it, got hooked and couldn't shake it.
This is the crux of the issue here. People who love you want the best for you and they're supposed to love, protect and honor you and he did not. He enabled her and he did drugs with her and it destroyed what was left of his career and hers and there's no getting past this. She snatched her daughter from his clutches and forced her into rehab. When Whitney got out, he was right there waiting to enable her. In the end, it's her fault for not seeking help for her addiction and we can all agree on that, but he doesn't get off scott free because her loving him and wanting to be with him and do what he was doing contributed to her downfall. Everyone knows when you fall in love with someone it makes you vunerable. Some women are lucky and get a good man and others aren't so lucky.
I read bm on this thread saying it's Whitney's fault and trying desperately to absolve Bobby. As black men aren't you supposed to be bw's protectors, lovers, friends, fathers of their children, providers, etc.? Yet all some of you do is bash bw and the bashing and excuse making regarding Bobby's role in Whitney's downfall is disgusting and I don't care who agrees or doesn't agree with me.
I know one damn thing, none of bm enablers would want someone like him as a husband or boyfriend for your daughters, that's for damn sure!

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bappie wrote:

<quoted text>No one forced Whitney to take drugs and ultimately, that choice may have led to her demise.
Whitney was fascinated with Bobby. The bad boy image is appealing to a lot of women and Whitney was no different. Despite the disapproval of her family, friends and fans, she fell in love with him. Obviously he turned her out. If anyone has ever seen him perform and dance, there's no doubt that he could and did turn women out left and right. Perhaps she did light drugs before she met him. Most said she smoked a little weed and dabbled in coke every now and then, however, she did not do crack before meeting Bobby Brown and this leads to what the bm on this thread do not want to discuss. What man would want to introduce the woman he loves and values to such an addicting drug? Aren't our men supposed to be our protectors and providers? Didn't he know what was on the line as far as her career? No one held her down and forced drugs into her, but perhaps trying to fit in with his crowd and hang tough she tried it, got hooked and couldn't shake it.
This is the crux of the issue here. People who love you want the best for you and they're supposed to love, protect and honor you and he did not. He enabled her and he did drugs with her and it destroyed what was left of his career and hers and there's no getting past this. Whitney's mother hated Bobby Brown and threathened to kill him. She snatched her daughter from his clutches and forced her into rehab. When Whitney got out, he was right there waiting to enable her. In the end, it's her fault for not seeking help for her addiction and we can all agree on that, but he doesn't get off scott free because her loving him and wanting to be with him and do what he was doing contributed to her downfall. Everyone knows when you fall in love with someone it makes you vunerable. Some women are lucky and get a good man and others aren't so lucky.
I read bm on this thread saying it's Whitney's fault and trying desperately to absolve Bobby. As black men aren't you supposed to be bw's protectors, lovers, friends, fathers of their children, providers, etc.? Yet all some of you do is bash bw and the bashing and excuse making regarding Bobby's role in Whitney's downfall is disgusting and I don't care who agrees or doesn't agree with me.
I know one damn thing, none of bm enablers would want someone like him as a husband or boyfriend for your daughters, that's for damn sure!

Capree wrote:

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Her mother Sissy had long been a notable performer with 1960s all girl group "Sweet Inspiration" which even song back up for Elvis Presley. Whitney was not raised in a ghetto and had been around rich and famous people Arthena Franklin and Dione Warrick all of her life.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/Sissy%20Ho ...

Carol wrote:

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Exactly Whitney wanted to be considered black....
she wanted "street cred"..........
and she left her upscale life style to ...
RUN WITH THE DOGS...Bobby B and his crack head, broke ghetto crew.

Cogito2 wrote:

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Bappie, I agree with the preponderance of your post. Although Whitney was responsible for the choices she made, there is sufficent culpability in the aggregate sense; with Bobby occupying a huge portion of it as a facilatator and enabler, as well as many other sycophants who benefitted from her fame; but stood silently as she tumbled into her living inferno!
Nothing I said was intended to dissolve or absolve Bobby in any way from the role he played: To me, his role is self evident. And although I am a huge advocate of personal responsibility, I also understand that we do not live in a vacuum and are influenced by people and things in our external peripheral world. So, in this sense, I agree with you.
And yes, we men bear a responsibility to our women and children to function as buffers and protectors; protecting them from harm and danger in all of it's evil incarnations, but, to do so successfully, it requires a collaboration on the part of all parties involved. To demand less, in my opinion, serves only to create "moral hazard." So, it was in this context which my expressed views were born.
I have a beautiful young daughter whom I love with every fibre of my being, and theoretically, the man whom she choose to share her life with should protect her; but I would have been egregiously derelict in my duties to my daughter were I remiss in teaching her that the quality of her life depends large in part, on the decisions she makes, and that she must be responsible for them; including the man she chooses. Daddy, can clean up afterwards, but she must bear responsibility for giving it life.
Lastly, I empathize with whitney because I understand that women respond to a different emotional stimuli than men, and thus can be vulnerable to a man's influences, but to not delineate her faux pas to other young ladies would only encourage it's proliferation by suggesting that their own fate is beyond their control.