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L'Islam est, comme les autres religions, tres divers. Vous avez les philosophes, les poets, humaniste et democrats parmi les Mussulmans. Vous avez les fanatiques, les jihadistes, fascistes, etc. Il y'a beaucoup de diversite entre les different pays aussi.
Not long ago I was reading Alice Cherki's FRANTZ FANON: A PROTRAIT (en Francais{ FRANTZ FANON,PORTRAIT). I recommend that book, originally written in French. I have only the English translation.
At any rate, Mrs. Cherki (friend and co-worker of Fanon) makes the following observation (p.152 of English version)regarding Fanon after his return to Tunisia from Mali & other Black countries: "He only wanted to relay his experiences in Africa or to TEASE his Algerian friends about the differences between ALGERIAN and AFRICAN Islam: "Muslim men in Africa don't lock up their women at home. The women are free to walk around, often wearing next to nothing."
I wonder to what extent the intolerance that one finds in Islam---though not in ALL of islam--is inherent to it (and perhaps all monotheism, especially Abrahamic), and how much is due to the varhing cultures.
Some more traditionalist members of the FLN accompahying Fanon in Mali and other Black countries were appalled to see women moving about in the towns and marketplaces and---by at least North African standards---scantilly clad. And in majority Muslim countries!
Amused by their discomfort, Fanon replied to his Algerian companions: "Do you REALLY want a REVOLUTION, or do you just want to get rid of the French?"
C'est exactement ce que j'essaie d'expliquer a cet ane baté de barros,l'Islam varie selon les cultures et non nous musulmans d'afrique "Noire" n'oppressons pas nos femmes contrairement a certains pays notement arabes qui ont un genre de haine envers les femmes,ce n'est donc pas un probléme religieux mais plutot culturel
le premier combat du prophete Mohamed etait de protéger les femmes plus particuliérement arabes qui etaient entérrées vivantes a la naissance et lisez le noble coran pour vous rendre compte du mepris
qu'a Allah envers les pratiques et les us des arabes,Barros n'est pas assez fin d'esprit comme vous et fait des amalgames nocifs pour sa pensée ,but who the heck cares le coran est ecrit pour les doués d'intelligence comme vous et moi et dommage pour le genre Barros borné mais persuadé de sa "supériorité intellectuelle a son propre detriment,bien de choses a vous et Attai sans oublié Kemi seba! peace on earth!

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Et voilà! Une révolution est nécessaire pour libérer les femmes islamiques!
Notez que le pire répression est dans les pays arabes.
Öui, c'est la culture africaine qui modifie l'Islame. L'Islame même est fasciste, misogyne, impérialiste, oppressif... un désastre.
Are You really stupid or What? Arabs are destording Islam by lining toward their dirty culture instead ,You're a croock Barros!
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C'est exactement ce que j'essaie d'expliquer a cet ane baté de barros,l'Islam varie selon les cultures et non nous musulmans d'afrique "Noire" n'oppressons pas nos femmes contrairement a certains pays notement arabes qui ont un genre de haine envers les femmes,ce n'est donc pas un probléme religieux mais plutot culturel
le premier combat du prophete Mohamed etait de protéger les femmes plus particuliérement arabes qui etaient entérrées vivantes a la naissance et lisez le noble coran pour vous rendre compte du mepris
qu'a Allah envers les pratiques et les us des arabes,Barros n'est pas assez fin d'esprit comme vous et fait des amalgames nocifs pour sa pensée ,but who the heck cares le coran est ecrit pour les doués d'intelligence comme vous et moi et dommage pour le genre Barros borné mais persuadé de sa "supériorité intellectuelle a son propre detriment,bien de choses a vous et Attai sans oublié Kemi seba! peace on earth!
Les cultures varient, donc. Mais l'Islame... toujours il n'est qu'une merde secque.

LOL... le prophete (faux) comme protecteur des femmes!!! LOL!!!

Ah, merde, c'est trop drôle...

Il est impossible de croire ce que vous dîtes autour des arabes lorque vous avez encore la bite arabe dans le cul.
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Are You really stupid or What? Arabs are destording Islam by lining toward their dirty culture instead ,You're a croock Barros!
Et d'où l'Islame? De la culture arabe, n'est-ce pas?

Spelling: distorting, leaning, crook---but hey don't worry you still spell English better than most Yanks do...

L'Islame est plein de perversion, et toute provennant de la culture arabe du Faux Prophete.

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Et d'où l'Islame? De la culture arabe, n'est-ce pas?
Spelling: distorting, leaning, crook---but hey don't worry you still spell English better than most Yanks do...
L'Islame est plein de perversion, et toute provennant de la culture arabe du Faux Prophete.
Non Idiot d'allah et vcontre les us arabs sur toute la ligne ,Ils etaient polytheists adoraient 360 dieus tuaient les femmes a la naissance d'ou les guerres entre eux et le prophet Mohamed (Pbuh)
Tu comprends vite mais il faut qu'on t'explique longtemps!IDIOT

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C'est exactement ce que j'essaie d'expliquer a cet ane baté de barros,l'Islam varie selon les cultures et non nous musulmans d'afrique "Noire" n'oppressons pas nos femmes contrairement a certains pays notement arabes qui ont un genre de haine envers les femmes,ce n'est donc pas un probléme religieux mais plutot culturel
le premier combat du prophete Mohamed etait de protéger les femmes plus particuliérement arabes qui etaient entérrées vivantes a la naissance et lisez le noble coran pour vous rendre compte du mepris
qu'a Allah envers les pratiques et les us des arabes,Barros n'est pas assez fin d'esprit comme vous et fait des amalgames nocifs pour sa pensée ,but who the heck cares le coran est ecrit pour les doués d'intelligence comme vous et moi et dommage pour le genre Barros borné mais persuadé de sa "supériorité intellectuelle a son propre detriment,bien de choses a vous et Attai sans oublié Kemi seba! peace on earth!
Comment grande le possibilite de democratie au pays Musulman?. Mossagegh essai creer democratie en Iran, mais les imperialiste le destruit. Apres le Shah le peuple d'Iran fait un revolution pour la liberte, mais les mullah voler leur revolution et leur liberte.
Entre les imperialistes et les jihadistes, comment faire la liberte, la justice sociale et democratie pour mes freres et soeurs dans pays Islamique?
"I, the man of color, want only this: That the TOOL never possess the MAN. That the enslavement of man by man CEASE forever....That it be possible for me do discover and to love man, wherever he is." Les Mussulman et les Chretians, les Juifs et les Hindus, les religieuse et les libre-penseurs et atheists.
Le PEUPLE au pouvoir! Liberte pour les peuples du monde Islamique, and pour tous le monde.

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Et voilà! Une révolution est nécessaire pour libérer les femmes islamiques!
Notez que le pire répression est dans les pays arabes.
Öui, c'est la culture africaine qui modifie l'Islame. L'Islame même est fasciste, misogyne, impérialiste, oppressif... un désastre.
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Et d'où l'Islame? De la culture arabe, n'est-ce pas?
Spelling: distorting, leaning, crook---but hey don't worry you still spell English better than most Yanks do...
L'Islame est plein de perversion, et toute provennant de la culture arabe du Faux Prophete.
L'arabisme n'est pas l'islam, Il ya 1,6 milliard de musulmans à travers le monde avec leurs propres traditions, l'histoire, les coutumes

Comment si vous vous sentez sur le Vieux Testament en hébreu biblique de Babylon? Le Zionism? La suprématie Juden? Talmud? Nous sommes tous les Goyim....

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J'ai besoin de travailler sur mon français .. lol il est tout en laissant

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Are You really stupid or What? Arabs are destording Islam by lining toward their dirty culture instead ,You're a croock Barros!
Gulf Arab nations are the enemies of Islam. Wahabist
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Aug 19, 2012
 
But we Muslims are NOT problem.
JEW Zionist bankers are.
JEWS Bankers control World Economy and Big Banks.

JEWS want to create New War on Iranian People.
Allah Help Iranian Sruggle against Zionism.

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But we Muslims are NOT problem.
JEW Zionist bankers are.
JEWS Bankers control World Economy and Big Banks.
JEWS want to create New War on Iranian People.
Allah Help Iranian Sruggle against Zionism.
are you an Arab? You give off that vibe..
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Toujours le même discours lepeniste extrémiste.
J'ai rencontré hier un Africain musulman et un autre qui font parfois le ramadan parfois non ; les deux étaient horrifiés par ce qui se fait au Nord Mali et ne veulent pas de cela chez le Bénin.
Il ne faut sûrement pas généraliser. En revanche y-at-il beaucoup de bons républicains sionistes admirateurs de Mormon Mitt et Sarah Palin ? Très peu sans doute. Les autres, 99%, sont bien plus dangereux pour le monde que tous les djihadistes du Nord Mali si par malheur le peuple américain les élit.
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Les Mussulmans qui j'ai vu a votre pay etait normale, intelligente. Un peu de peuple Islamique en France etait forme dans les universite. Extreme? Non.
Les mussulman Francais would be as horrified by MILITANT ISLAM as would anyone else.
Evidement, les plupart des Maliens--qui sont majorite Islamique--sont horrifie aussi par la violence, le fou (madness?)des jihadistes au Nord du Mali.
We must stand firm in defense of the rights of Malians, of the freedom of Muslims, and the freedom of everyone else. And we must sternly jihadism and EVERY tyranny, every violation of Les Droits des Hommes, whether it be religious or secular.
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But we Muslims are NOT problem.
JEW Zionist bankers are.
JEWS Bankers control World Economy and Big Banks.
JEWS want to create New War on Iranian People.
Allah Help Iranian Sruggle against Zionism.
SOME of you Muslims ARE a problem; and not only for non-Muslims, but also--perhaps even MORE so--for Muslims. While my family is predominantly Christian, a few of my relatives are MUSLIM. And my MUSLIM relatives finds many of you disgusting and appalling.
Muslim extremists caused the destruction and death in the predominantly MUSLIM country of Mali.
And while American imperialism, American militarism caused the deaths of at leaat 100,000 Iraqis, thousands of lives were also lost in sectarian violence between Shia and Sunni.

In Egypt, just before the Arab Spring, thousands of JUST and decent Muslims had to put their bodies between their Christian brethren and militan Islamists who attacked them. And now there's the danger that the inspiring Arab Spring revolutions may be neutralized by Islamiists. And if that happens, it will be mainly MUSLIMS who will have cheated out of freedom that they were on the vege of winning just one year ago.

As for the banksters, I despise them. And it doesn't matter to me whether they are Jewish, Christian (which most probably are), Muslim, Shinto or atheist. They are piratical, exploitative scum; crypto-fascist enemies of democracy, freedom and all social justice. In America, they are the ones who essentially own the Republican party.
The issue is not whether they are Jewish, Christian or what have you. The issue is that they are exploitative, predatory and fascistic.
So don't get it twisted.
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are you an Arab? You give off that vibe..
Whether he's Arab is neither here nor there. One's ethnicity doesn't make one right or wrong.
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Aug 19, 2012
 
Religion. Quel dommage. You poor religionists. Now you know one of the major reasons why I'm a skeptic and agnostic.

But I'm interested in no holy war against Islam or any religion. Such medievalism is unworthy of me, is unworthy of all of us.

Shia vs Sunni, the West vs Islam. Are you MAD? This is the TWENTY FIRST CENTURY!
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Are You really stupid or What? Arabs are destording Islam by lining toward their dirty culture instead ,You're a croock Barros!
Bien sur, there's patriarchy in sub-Saharan Africa, both Muslim and non-Muslim. But from what I've read, conditions of women in Muslim predominantly Arab North Africa is so much WORSE, that Arabs have gotten a bad reputation in SubSaharan Black Africa.
And while there may be some problems with jihadism in parts of Black Africa, they ae miniascule in scale compared to what you find in the Arabic countries.
I don't want to vilify Arabs as a whole, however. There are progressive Arabs, democatic and humanistic Arabs--some of them Muslim. But I suspect too that there is some CULTURAL differences between the Arabic and Black African civilization which largely accoun for the relatively relaxed expressions of Islam in Sub-Saharan Africa compared to the majority Arabic countries. So, it's not reducible to just the "nature" of Islam.
Come to think of it, it was an invasion from the North which wrecked the brilliant civilization--Muslim civilization--of Songhai. And if I recall correctly, the Black scholar Ahmed Baba of Timbuktu University, was himself taken captive and his libbary ravaged.
At the risk of sounding like a chauvinist (as I am a descendant of West Africans myself), I think that perhaps the Black Africans (Muslim, christian & animist)are more civilized than their northern neighbors.
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Aug 19, 2012
 
Good heavans! I meant to refer to Ahmed Baba's LIBRARY. Parson the comic orthographic error.

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I wish everyone visit the Ahmed Baba LIBRARY,some of it's books are just marvelous and reaveling,at least Barros should in order to deformate his washed out obscure thing he calls a brain! peace though!

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dcool wrote:
I wish everyone visit the Ahmed Baba LIBRARY,some of it's books are just marvelous and reaveling,at least Barros should in order to deformate his washed out obscure thing he calls a brain! peace though!
A. Baba's books are still available. Then they survive. Great! I wish I could order them. I'm spending more time trying to study non-Western thinkers who were mainly ignored in Vanderbilt's Philosophy program. Thinkers from Muslim and Hindu & Buddhist traditions are of interest to me.

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