Kush/Nubia were GREAT CIVILIZATIONS

EritreanTigrinya wrote:

So this in Appreciation for those Nubian Archers who defended their civilization from the Assyrians
People are getting stuck on Ancient Egypt when Nubia has more pyramids than Ancient Egypt which only tells a logical person that Nubia was a center of technological development meaning that many pyramids were built. So the science of pyramid building was developed there.
http://books.google.com/books...
Egypt is focused on because of the SIZE of those pyramids yet when the Egyptians were busy building pyramids..the Nubians were making iron arrows and practicing archery which came in handy in defeating the Assyrians and stopping their war machine at Egypt!

I agree with you. There are some ppl who would classify the Nubians as Caucasoid though so even that would be stolen.

same batch of black losers as always....where are the ruins of these "GREAT EMPIRES" ...NO WHERE couple of flat rocks stacked up..no books,wheels,domestic animals,cement,science,math, medicine....NOTHING BUT LIES FOR LOSERS.

bugggy wrote:

same batch of black losers as always....where are the ruins of these "GREAT EMPIRES" ...NO WHERE couple of flat rocks stacked up..no books,wheels,domestic animals,cement,science,math, medicine....NOTHING BUT LIES FOR LOSERS.

Well, I guess you must be talking to yourself becuase the only moronic loser here is the person posting lies. FIRST off, Africans domesticated animals first, hed medical practices before Europeans, Had Science before europeans, The wheel was used in Egypt, Kush, Nubia, Ethiopia, Mali..ect.

NEXT...and please learn some real history not you revolutionist bullshit.

Civilization in "Nubia"(and Upper Egypt) rose before the Unification of the Ta-Meh and Ta-Shamu(Upper and Lower Km.T).

The oldest city of so called "Nubia" was Kerma and goes back to at least 7500 B.C where settlement first occured. This is when in the Paleolithic we witness Mesolithic architecture, semi-burials and various objects and tools. Gradually, In the Neolithic the Kermans would develop a city with a Necropolis featuring temples, Agriculture and domestication of cattle is spread leading to 3000 B.C where other "Kerman" influenced cities form.

City of Kerma
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w286/jrpon...
Ariel Veiw with temple Precinct
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w286/jrpon...
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w286/jrpon...

Kerma contiued...

The Nubian Town and Its Necropolis By. Charles Bonet.

In the past thirty years, systematic excavation of Nubian Kerma has presented a picture of a capital city in the third and second millennia BCE. The evolution of the residential area is highly complex, yet it is possible to identify social differences and a marked hierarchy. Furthermore, we might speculate about the general nature of this town, which seems to correspond above all to a protected zone reserved for an elite population. Whereas elsewhere in the kingdom we find towns that centralized agricultural products and villages that we situated alongside fields of crops, here in the capital we find spacious homes inhabited by dignitaries who monitored the trade in merchandise arriving from far-off lands, and who supervised shipments dispatched from administrative buildings.

In the Old Kerma (2450-2050 BCE), religious buildings and special workshops for preparing offerings were built using trunks of acacia trees, and roofed with palm fibers. These plant-based materials, once encased in hardened clay, could be painted in lively colors. The round huts were usually made of wood and clay. This method of construction, inspired by traditions dating back to prehistory, is still being used today.

Around 2200-2000 BCE, the builders began using unfired mud-bricks. Later, the use of fired bricks constituted a significant change, because such material remained almost unknown elsewhere along the Nile Valley until the Late Period

Kerma is about 5,000 years old and is in fact older than Egypt.

Here is a good link.
http://www.hp.uab.edu/image_archive/um/umb.ht...

Essence wrote:

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I agree with you. There are some ppl who would classify the Nubians as Caucasoid though so even that would be stolen.

Hell nah, Nubians are black as the ace of spades.

Roman Sulu Malay wrote:

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Hell nah, Nubians are black as the ace of spades.

LOL I know they are. I was doing some research on AE & I ran across some anthropologists that classified Nubians as Caucasian & I thought what a joke. Then on the Egypt thread I found out some ppl actually believe that garbage.

I object to the Term "Nubian" becuase the Egyptians never named a place called Nubia. Nubia is a Eurocentric bastardization of the uniqe and VARIOUS Kingdoms of the Nile Valley and surrounding Areas south of Egypt.

Fact is....
1) Upper(Southern from Darshur to Aswan) Egypt and Northern Nubia were once a single kingdom until the Egyptian Pharoh Dojser made the boundry of Unified Km.t all the way to Aswan at the first Cateract.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
2) There were various southern tribes during Pharonic perids and pre-dynastic times. Some were frienly:(Medjay, Yamites(Yam) Puntites(Ethiopia))
Some were enimies:Kush, Kerma, ect.
3)The Egyptians showed the southerners with various features, skin, clothing, and culture. The lie that White Supremists like to use that the Egyptians showed themselves as "Lighter" than "Nubians" is false in its own way. Yes, The Egyptians showed Kushites and Medjay folks with "Darker" skin, hwever in the same token the Egyptians showed southeners with the same skin and or features as themselves. Meaning the Egyptians groupped themselves with AFRICANS. This is not seen by any other tribe of Asiatics or Europeans only Africans.
"Nubians" wrestling
http://wysinger.homestead.com/10c80ea0.jpg
In the tomb of Hormeheb
http://wysinger.homestead.com/huy767_op_472x6...
http://wysinger.homestead.com/hor1.jpg
Ramses Invading "Nubians"
http://euler.slu.edu/Dept/Faculty/bart/egypta...
As we can see even the supposed "Red Harired" Ramses shoed the "BLACK" "Nubians" with the same skin as himself...HMMMMM

Jari-ankamun wrote:

I object to the Term "Nubian" becuase the Egyptians never named a place called Nubia. Nubia is a Eurocentric bastardization of the uniqe and VARIOUS Kingdoms of the Nile Valley and surrounding Areas south of Egypt.
Fact is....
1) Upper(Southern from Darshur to Aswan) Egypt and Northern Nubia were once a single kingdom until the Egyptian Pharoh Dojser made the boundry of Unified Km.t all the way to Aswan at the first Cateract.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
2) There were various southern tribes during Pharonic perids and pre-dynastic times. Some were frienly:(Medjay, Yamites(Yam) Puntites(Ethiopia))
Some were enimies:Kush, Kerma, ect.
3)The Egyptians showed the southerners with various features, skin, clothing, and culture. The lie that White Supremists like to use that the Egyptians showed themselves as "Lighter" than "Nubians" is false in its own way. Yes, The Egyptians showed Kushites and Medjay folks with "Darker" skin, hwever in the same token the Egyptians showed southeners with the same skin and or features as themselves. Meaning the Egyptians groupped themselves with AFRICANS. This is not seen by any other tribe of Asiatics or Europeans only Africans.
"Nubians" wrestling
http://wysinger.homestead.com/10c80ea0.jpg
In the tomb of Hormeheb
http://wysinger.homestead.com/huy767_op_472x6...
http://wysinger.homestead.com/hor1.jpg
Ramses Invading "Nubians"
http://euler.slu.edu/Dept/Faculty/bart/egypta...
As we can see even the supposed "Red Harired" Ramses shoed the "BLACK" "Nubians" with the same skin as himself...HMMMMM

To my first point I would'nt say they Were a Seperate Single kingdom until Dojser, but they were both simular in traditions, people, culture..ect.

More "Nubians"
Medjay Archers and Egyptian Spearmen...notice Same Fatures and the difference in skin is so little it is irrelevent.
http://wysinger.homestead.com/nubianarchers.h...

EritreanTigrinya wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race#P...
However, some anthropologists point to Ethiopians, Eritreans, Somalis and Nubians who exhibit phenotypical traits such as orthognathism, keen facial features and non-kinky hair texture usually exclusive to Caucasoid peoples. They contend such variations are indigenous to these groups and cannot be attributed to invasions from outside Caucasoid peoples as suggested under the Dynastic Race Theory and in more recent biological studies.[
No matter what these European anthropologists say about African people..it still does not remove the fact that the origin of North East Africans i.e. Nubians, Egyptians, Ethiopians, Somalians, Eritreans is Africa therefore what this should tell any follower of logic is that Africa is DIVERSE and not isolated like Europe was for many 1000s of years until they came out of their hibernation in 1500s AD thanks to muslim Arabs/jews!

Dont forget Tigrinya, Your people(East Africans) were here EONS before a "European" was ever dreamt of. East Africans are some of the oldest , the reason why East Africans supposely Resemble "Caucasians" is becuase East Africans looked like that when migrating out of Africa.

Essence wrote:

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LOL I know they are. I was doing some research on AE & I ran across some anthropologists that classified Nubians as Caucasian & I thought what a joke. Then on the Egypt thread I found out some ppl actually believe that garbage.

If someone said that Nubians were white in my face.. I'd either slap him/her or start laughing hysterically.

The nubians were good bow and arrow chuckers like here in southern africa we have the khoisans,i dont know of a european that would chuck a bow and arrow,neanderthals were usually known for their spears and their rocks

African-MadBoy wrote:

The nubians were good bow and arrow chuckers like here in southern africa we have the khoisans,i dont know of a european that would chuck a bow and arrow,neanderthals were usually known for their spears and their rocks

To be fair, using a self-bow in a heavily forested Europe wouldn't have been that efficient a use of resources, although they do exist. The oldest bows found here date to around 2600 B.C.E (the Mear Heath Bow). Being almost 6' long using such a weapon in woodland would have provided all sorts of problems - which is probably why this one was found in Wetland. Africa, with large areas of grassland would be a naturally better place to use the bow. Of course later on the Welsh Longbow is probably the ultimate example of a self-bow on record (although some class it as composite).

Either way, I wouldn't have wanted to be a Kushite facing composite Assyrian bows - longer range for less pull weight - and iron and bronze heads instead of bronze or flint (Herodotus) ones.

BTW - there's nothing wrong about flint arrowheads - in a time when armour was ridiculously expensive most soldiers would have had cloth, and iron may have given a debatable advantage in those conditions.

People dont understand that ancient Egyptians came from the land upper Egypt and northern Sudan 9 which used to be called Nubia )...i will not believe that the egyptions of today are the same as the onces in ancient times.......the first dynasty was a line of Nubian kings ( i believe that Egypt was a sun - kingdom that broke off from the Nubien regions kingdoms...( it's fact that Nubia was more like a region that holded many great civilizations like Kush , Aksum , and the Kingdom Nubia )...and became one whole diffrent kingdom.

proof or logic :

Why would the Egyptians put that " Land of the Gods " in the area of north Sudan or north Ethiopia....if it was a savage land and didnt mean nothing to them...if it was always a Arab country they would have put it in the North .

The first Pharaohs resembled black Nubian's , they had wide noses , larger lips , and square heads ( even the Sphinx looks like a Nubian man ( why do thing they cut off the nose......now historians are looking at the fact that the look of ancient Egypt changed dramatically over the hundreds of years ........

Many Greek ancient historians sayed that the Egyptians were dark with woolly hair , not characteristics of the Caucasoid race...why would the Egyptians use the color black to paint the faces and bodies of the queens and Pharoahs then use it to color the faces of the savages " that they so hated ".....also writings from queen Hatshepsut stayed " We came from the south and grew a Kingdom "......also why do so many ethiopians look like egyptians....Liya Kebede and Iman can easily pass as queen Nefertiti ......but the Egyptians didn't stay Numbian but mixed with the Lybians , Berbers , and Hellenistic people that came after words...BUT NOT ARAB PEOPLE, BECAUSE THEY CAME AFTER THE KINGDOM FELL......and why did the ancient priest let the Nubian kings take over egypt in the 25 dynasty...well beacuse they were connected in the way......and i will not here that egyptians and nubians had no contact when they were brothers.....it's like saying Spanish people are not connected to the Portugal's people.........Egyptans came from the land of Nubia and created there own kindom ...but egypt started a black kingom but ended a mixed one.

Egyptans are not Arabs they spoke a Semetic language ( african ) so get over it .

Eddy Smegma wrote:

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STFU, you damn flip.
Talk about a useless culture. Bunch of baluut-eating monkeys.

LOL Baluut is the shit!

Better than you're Pork n Beans out the can and Fritos!

a kinder gentler dick wrote:

Eddy is on a specific diet. He only eats nuts right out of the bag.

lol

Eddy Smegma wrote:

Another "make the n!@@ers feel good about themselves" thread. All bullsh!t.
I can't even get a coon to build a pyramid!

Well why are you here? why post here?

Greggriffin111 wrote:

People dont understand that ancient Egyptians came from the land upper Egypt and northern Sudan 9 which used to be called Nubia )...i will not believe that the egyptions of today are the same as the onces in ancient times.......the first dynasty was a line of Nubian kings ( i believe that Egypt was a sun - kingdom that broke off from the Nubien regions kingdoms...( it's fact that Nubia was more like a region that holded many great civilizations like Kush , Aksum , and the Kingdom Nubia )...and became one whole diffrent kingdom.
proof or logic :
Why would the Egyptians put that " Land of the Gods " in the area of north Sudan or north Ethiopia....if it was a savage land and didnt mean nothing to them...if it was always a Arab country they would have put it in the North .
The first Pharaohs resembled black Nubian's , they had wide noses , larger lips , and square heads ( even the Sphinx looks like a Nubian man ( why do thing they cut off the nose......now historians are looking at the fact that the look of ancient Egypt changed dramatically over the hundreds of years ........
Many Greek ancient historians sayed that the Egyptians were dark with woolly hair , not characteristics of the Caucasoid race...why would the Egyptians use the color black to paint the faces and bodies of the queens and Pharoahs then use it to color the faces of the savages " that they so hated ".....also writings from queen Hatshepsut stayed " We came from the south and grew a Kingdom "......also why do so many ethiopians look like egyptians....Liya Kebede and Iman can easily pass as queen Nefertiti ......but the Egyptians didn't stay Numbian but mixed with the Lybians , Berbers , and Hellenistic people that came after words...BUT NOT ARAB PEOPLE, BECAUSE THEY CAME AFTER THE KINGDOM FELL......and why did the ancient priest let the Nubian kings take over egypt in the 25 dynasty...well beacuse they were connected in the way......and i will not here that egyptians and nubians had no contact when they were brothers.....it's like saying Spanish people are not connected to the Portugal's people.........Egyptans came from the land of Nubia and created there own kindom ...but egypt started a black kingom but ended a mixed one.
Egyptans are not Arabs they spoke a Semetic language ( african ) so get over it .

Agree 100%. People act like the Egyptians came from the North(Lower) Egypt, howerver Archeological finds show the predasessors of Egyptian culture known as the Badarians that settled in Upper Egypt. Also the Nubian city of Kerma was well developed before Egypt, so it is no suprise that the Egyptians were influemced by the Kerman/Nubian culture than anything Asiatic.