Ancient Macedonian Culture and Language

Great article!

Nike wrote:

Great article!

READ THIS CLOWN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Macedoni ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Macedoni ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_gr ...

ALL HELLENIC & ALL GREEK.

We the slavs spoke Bulgarian. My Grandparents spoke Bulgarian, as did my Greaat Grandparents......we are slavs not related to Alexander the Great......
We are related to the Bulgarians & our national heroes Gotse Delchev, Dame Gruev,Hristo Tatarchev,Petar Pop-Arsov, Andon Dimitrov, Hristo Batandzhiev, Ivan Hadzhinikolov, Ivan Garvanov,Yane Sandanski,Hristo Chernopeev,Todor Alexandrov, Petar Chaulev,Alexander Protogerov, Tane Nikolov and Apostol Petko,.Petar Chaulev, Ivan Mihailov, Nikola Pitu Gulev,Gjorche Petrov, Todor Panitsa, Boris Sarafov, Dimo Hadjidimov, Georgi Skrizhovski, Alexander Bujnov, Chudomir Kantardjiev, Vlado THIS is WHO we areChernozemski, Metodi Shatorov, Andon Kalchev and Georgi Dimchev, Panko Brashnarov , Dimitar Vlahov, Pavel Shatev,Metodija Andonov, Dimitar Vlahov

All BULGARIAN
The Clown Show is over clown......a clown needs an audience & the pure Macedonians(Greeks), are not going to be you audience

skopjian Slav wrote:

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READ THIS CLOWN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Macedoni ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Macedoni ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_gr ...
ALL HELLENIC & ALL GREEK.
We the slavs spoke Bulgarian. My Grandparents spoke Bulgarian, as did my Greaat Grandparents......we are slavs not related to Alexander the Great......
We are related to the Bulgarians & our national heroes Gotse Delchev, Dame Gruev,Hristo Tatarchev,Petar Pop-Arsov, Andon Dimitrov, Hristo Batandzhiev, Ivan Hadzhinikolov, Ivan Garvanov,Yane Sandanski,Hristo Chernopeev,Todor Alexandrov, Petar Chaulev,Alexander Protogerov, Tane Nikolov and Apostol Petko,.Petar Chaulev, Ivan Mihailov, Nikola Pitu Gulev,Gjorche Petrov, Todor Panitsa, Boris Sarafov, Dimo Hadjidimov, Georgi Skrizhovski, Alexander Bujnov, Chudomir Kantardjiev, Vlado THIS is WHO we areChernozemski, Metodi Shatorov, Andon Kalchev and Georgi Dimchev, Panko Brashnarov , Dimitar Vlahov, Pavel Shatev,Metodija Andonov, Dimitar Vlahov
All BULGARIAN
The Clown Show is over clown......a clown needs an audience & the pure Macedonians(Greeks), are not going to be you audience

Like it or not, Greece will eventually have to live with knowing that by whatever name it agrees to accept for its northern neighbour - which it calls FYROM, but most of the rest of the world calls Macedonia - the only name it will be known by is … Macedonia.

http://www.neurope.eu/articles/94080.php

Filip the II Reincarnated wrote:

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Like it or not, Greece will eventually have to live with knowing that by whatever name it agrees to accept for its northern neighbour - which it calls FYROM, but most of the rest of the world calls Macedonia - the only name it will be known by is … Macedonia.
http://www.neurope.eu/articles/94080.php

I'm sorry you think so...
If your official name is i.e. Paionia then you will be known as Paionia. Not too difficult, is it?
Ancient Macedonia has always been associated with Greece. Too bad some Slavs they want to steal and make it their own for no good reason... and the strangest thing, they're actually proud of this theft!

Nike wrote:

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I'm sorry you think so...
If your official name is i.e. Paionia then you will be known as Paionia. Not too difficult, is it?
Ancient Macedonia has always been associated with Greece. Too bad some Slavs they want to steal and make it their own for no good reason... and the strangest thing, they're actually proud of this theft!

Their name will be South Kossovo.

Nike wrote:

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I'm sorry you think so...
If your official name is i.e. Paionia then you will be known as Paionia. Not too difficult, is it?
Ancient Macedonia has always been associated with Greece. Too bad some Slavs they want to steal and make it their own for no good reason... and the strangest thing, they're actually proud of this theft!

Sorry to disapoint you. Our official name is Republic of Macedonia. As it's writen on my passport, as on my birth certificate, as the code MK you see on the car's, as the UN country code MKD, as Macedonia on Eurovision Song competition etc. etc.

Filip the II Reincarnated wrote:

<quoted text>Sorry to disapoint you. Our official name is Republic of Macedonia. As it's writen on my passport, as on my birth certificate, as the code MK you see on the car's, as the UN country code MKD, as Macedonia on Eurovision Song competition etc. etc.

Then you should make a copy of this passport, take a photo or something...to always remember it with your old country name.:)

Nike wrote:

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Then you should make a copy of this passport, take a photo or something...to always remember it with your old country name.:)

Why?

Hahaha!
Show me your Bulgarian Passport brat.

Surely you don't think your name's permanent while there's a "name issue" going on??

Filip the II Reincarnated wrote:

<quoted text>Sorry to disapoint you. Our official name is Republic of Macedonia. As it's writen on my passport, as on my birth certificate, as the code MK you see on the car's, as the UN country code MKD, as Macedonia on Eurovision Song competition etc. etc.

your official name is " to be determined"

ALbanians please take over fyrom

Filip the II Reincarnated wrote:

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Like it or not, Greece will eventually have to live with knowing that by whatever name it agrees to accept for its northern neighbour - which it calls FYROM, but most of the rest of the world calls Macedonia - the only name it will be known by is … Macedonia.
http://www.neurope.eu/articles/94080.php

Wrong! The whole world knows you have NOTHING to do with the Ancient Macedonians and even if you call yourselves that, they will know you as either Slavomacedonians or some other combination.

You just make bigger fools of yourselves the more you insist on your stupidity and you have already become the laughing stock of the civilized world.

Hahahahahahaha!!!

You can call yourselves whatever you like...YOU ARE NOT REAL MACEDONIANS, and the world knows it!

Vardarska never greek

The writter of the article is FYROMIAN. Nice sources you find all the times

In his recent article under the title “Satrapal appointments in Alexander’s Empire”. Mr. Gandeto actually thought he discovered America in 2009 AD, when he wrote that out of 52 persons appointed by Alexander the Great as satraps in the conquered regions of the Persian empire, only 5 were southern Greeks, while the rest consisted equally of Macedonians and Persians or various other Asians. This is, according to Gandeto, the greatest proof that Macedonians were not Greeks. Nevertheless, i would like to express my gratefulness to Gandeto for his excellent remark, since the only thing he achieved using this argument was to give me the chance to speak about a chapter of Macedonian history that people like Gandeto avoid systematically to mention. It´s the chapter which is missing from all the historical schoolbooks of FYROM, because it contradicts and belies their assertions about the non-Greek origin of the ancient Macedonians. I am referring to the spread of Hellenic culture and language in the whole territory of the conquered Persian empire by those same Macedonian satraps. The Macedonians whom Gandeto attempts (without any substance) and arbitrary to de-hellenize, in order to probably establish an imaginary descend from them, although his activities are the exact opposite of what his alleged ancestors did. The ancient Macedonians were constantly promoting Hellenic culture and language whereas Gandeto obviously hates and fights everything Hellenic.

You are indeed right, Gandeto,as regards to the number of the satraps who were of Macedonian origin. Importantly, what you missed out (or deliberately omitted) was to mention the result of the appointment of those Macedonians and the cultural impact of their administration on the various Asian lands they ruled. This result was, according to all the respectable historians throughout the world, the spread of the Greek culture in a vast area from Egypt to Afghanistan, Pakistan and India. Through a small research in any library, one notes the inconsistencies made by Gandeto:

“The Afghans” by Willem Vogelsang,2002

Page 114

“This all changed in the late fourth century BC, with the start of an era in which Greeks and Greek culture spread to the east. The new rulers were strangers, without any knowledge or understanding of Iranian culture. They were Greeks, and all others were mere barbar¬ians. The Greeks were soon to dominate the settled communities of the Iranian Plateau, thus rapidly widening the gap between sedentary and nomadic life. Excavations show a sharp change in pottery tradi¬tions and the introduction of many types that derive from the west. The expansion of Hellenism started with the rise to power of a young prince in faraway Macedonia.

In the spring of 334 BC, the 22-year old Macedonian king, Alexander, crossed the Hellespont with an army of some 20,000 men”

http://books.google.com/books... …#PRA1-PA114,M1

Pages 126-127

“Kabul River. A bilingual Greek-Aramaic inscription (Qandahar I) was found in 1958 on a large boulder just north of Old Qandahar in South Afghanistan (III. 6).Another Mauryan text, this time only in Greek and inscribed on a stone slab, was also found in Qandahar, in 1963.

In Arachosia they used Greek script and language, Aramaic script and language, and mixed Aramaic-Prakrit language. In other words, Greek was only used in Arachosia, while Aramaic and Prakrit were used in both places”.

“In the texts, there are frequent references to the peoples of the northwest of the Mauryan empire, including the Yavanas (Greeks) and the Kambojas. The name of the Yavanas, a word ultimately derived from the name of Ionia along the eastern coast of the Aegaean, clearly refers to the Greek population of Eastern Iran; the Old Persian inscriptions of the Achaemenids refer in this case to Yauna. The Greek presence in Arachosia in the third centrury BC, albeit apparently under overall Mauryan control, is further illustrated by the find at Old Qandahar in 1978 of a Greek inscription, dating to c.280 BC. http://books.google.com/books... …#PRA1-PA126,M1

Abe kako ne vi e sram grcki pedercista da go lazete svetot deka vie poteknuvate od starite grci,cigani edni vie ne ste grci kamoli makedonci.Vo vasata krv ako voopsto ja imate najmnogu tece SLOVENSKA krv.Malaki edni,pusti edni.MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE.

Filip the II Reincarnated wrote:

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Like it or not, Greece will eventually have to live with knowing that by whatever name it agrees to accept for its northern neighbour - which it calls FYROM, but most of the rest of the world calls Macedonia - the only name it will be known by is … Macedonia.
http://www.neurope.eu/articles/94080.php

The Honorable Barack Obama
President, United States of America
White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20500


Dear President Obama,
We, the undersigned scholars of Graeco-Roman antiquity, respectfully request that you intervene to clean up some of the historical debris left in southeast Europe by the previous U.S. administration.
On November 4, 2004, two days after the re-election of President George W. Bush, his administration unilaterally recognized the “Republic of Macedonia.” This action not only abrogated geographic and historic fact, but it also has unleashed a dangerous epidemic of historical revisionism, of which the most obvious symptom is the misappropriation by the government in Skopje of the most famous of Macedonians, Alexander the Great.
We believe that this silliness has gone too far, and that the U.S.A. has no business in supporting the subversion of history. Let us review facts.(The documentation for these facts [here in boldface] can be found attached and at: http://macedonia-evidence.org/documentation.h... )
The land in question, with its modern capital at Skopje, was called Paionia in antiquity. Mts. Barnous and Orbelos (which form today the northern limits of Greece) provide a natural barrier that separated, and separates, Macedonia from its northern neighbor. The only real connection is along the Axios/Vardar River and even this valley “does not form a line of communication because it is divided by gorges.”
While it is true that the Paionians were subdued by Philip II, father of Alexander, in 358 B.C. they were not Macedonians and did not live in Macedonia. Likewise, for example, the Egyptians, who were subdued by Alexander, may have been ruled by Macedonians, including the famous Cleopatra, but they were never Macedonians themselves, and Egypt was never called Macedonia.