Methadone clinic owner a no-show at public forum

Sorry to burst your bubble Dr Dubin, but you are WRONG. Methadone doesn't work for JUST heroin users. I've never even seen heroin, and the Methadone clinic literally saved my life and my family from falling apart. I've been sober for a little over a year now and am happier than I've ever been. Not only that, but how dare you be aug a hypocrite?? You prescribe Suboxone, which alhough it may be a little different (one is an agonist and the other is only a partial agonist), it's very very similar. Just like the methadone, suboxone is addictive. It may nit be as BAD as the methadone is, and it may have milder withdrawal symptoms, but it's STILL addictive and you still have to go thru the sickness if you want to get off of it. I am currently in the process of switching over to the Suboxone, and I am extremely ecstatic. But what's good for me does not work for everyone. I'm sorry Dr dubin, but even you don't present all of the proper information to your clients and the public. I wish everyone could become properly educated on the benefits of both Methadone and Suboxone therapy. Just like in Bell Co, they won't open a methadone clinic, but they sure as sh*t won't open up a rehabilitation center either. Newsflash:: jail is NOT rehab and it doesn't help addicts. Most are doing drugs IN jail even, and pretty much everyone goes back to their old ways once they are released. Give people the right resources to get better instead of sending everyone to jail. Show some true compassion instead of shunning addicts/recovering addicts.

I agree with you but which Dr.Dubin are you talking about??The one at the MRI office in middlesboro?Just curious but I agree with everything you say it's easier to do drugs then to help people come off of them,We need more rehabilitations centers in middlesboro to help people mentally and physically with drugs.A lot just can't turn drugs down because it's a mental issue,they want to quit but their brain has it set to do them anyway most people don't understand that.

Yea you're totally right--it's the hardest part. I once read somewhere that the physical withdrawals are only 30% and the other 70% is all mental. I honestly didn't know there were two Dubin's, so I don't know. I know he has an office next to KFC though.

Why did he not show?

we are fighting this addiction problem in my house with my husband,he's had a severe prooblem for 6 years now and as much as he tries to explain it to me it's hard for me to understand but I see him go through the hassle of hussling some days and struggling others I myself can't understand why he doesn't just say no but I am not the one addicted then it breakes my heart to see him hurting and going through the symptoms of withdrawal,he wants to quit so bad but we aren't blessed with money and can't afford rehabilitation,so we are working together to do it as a family.everyone wants to put people down but what they don't understand until they are in those shoes or walk beside someone in those shoes they'll never understand,and have no room to place no judgement.

yes m'boro does need a methadone clinic. i'm addicted to pain medicine and can't locate a nearby clinic or afford a visit either. i have to have med's everyday or i throw up and my body cramps so bad that i can't sleep, eat, it's even hard to get out of bed. i'm tired of living my life this way. i want off the med's so bad, but i also hurt so bad when i don't have anything that i give in and get something. i just feel like there is no hope. i want to get clean so me and my son can have a better life. my son doesn't do without, but he and myself could have alot more once these things are out of my life. i pray that one day SOON a clinic will open here so i can be the way i used to be. get up early, be full of energy and not sick, and love everything about life. maybe if there is enough comments on here eventually a clinic will be open. AN AFFORDABLE CLINIC!!!

I'm sorry, but as someone who was addicted to pain meds for 4 years I think all you methodone and sub folks are just doing typical addict behavior. Its called detox, yes it sucks. you may feel it for a couple months but stop being freaking babies. My friends on Methadone stay on methadone and the only way they get off it is when they get back on the dope. I know there is exceptions but 99% of the addicts think they are the exception. Suck it up and get off the dope and get into recovery. The physical aspect is not the worse part of addiction, its the internal mental, moral, and emotional part. You can't face that with a brain full of drugs. And yes I have been on methadone maintenance and I would rather get off heroin than that crap

well I am not addicted to drugs I am the loving wife who sits back and goes through this with him the endless sleepness nights staying up tu rub the cramps out of his legs being there when he looses his sanity or when he is vomiting and doing number 2 at the same time allover the bathroom,He wants to quit it's NOT as easy as everyone says,I am the only one who works in our family because we can't afford childcare for 3 kids,that alone a rehab center,the methadone clinic or suboxion.My kids don't do without,but it's hard and every little penny is counted for,if they really want people to get off the drugs they should offer a rehabilitation service here in our area that is funded by the state that maybe goes by your income.or work out some kind of payment plan hell the money that goes to drug dealers could go to theese clinics or rehab services,instead of them making you pay a load of money up front.It don't just take a toll on the person using but the whole entire family,I hear people saying that I should leave him this and that marriage is forever till death do us part through thick and thin,and as long as my kids get what they need and most of what they want and we have our bills paid I'm going to be there for him till he's 20 + years clean and then we can say we done it together.

dont understand wrote:

well I am not addicted to drugs I am the loving wife who sits back and goes through this with him the endless sleepness nights staying up tu rub the cramps out of his legs being there when he looses his sanity or when he is vomiting and doing number 2 at the same time allover the bathroom,He wants to quit it's NOT as easy as everyone says,I am the only one who works in our family because we can't afford childcare for 3 kids,that alone a rehab center,the methadone clinic or suboxion.My kids don't do without,but it's hard and every little penny is counted for,if they really want people to get off the drugs they should offer a rehabilitation service here in our area that is funded by the state that maybe goes by your income.or work out some kind of payment plan hell the money that goes to drug dealers could go to theese clinics or rehab services,instead of them making you pay a load of money up front.It don't just take a toll on the person using but the whole entire family,I hear people saying that I should leave him this and that marriage is forever till death do us part through thick and thin,and as long as my kids get what they need and most of what they want and we have our bills paid I'm going to be there for him till he's 20 + years clean and then we can say we done it together.

i see that you get it, and your compassion will be rewarded someday....its nice to see that you at least try to understand, and dont blame the person, because too many people have anger, resentment and even hatred toward the person, instead of the diseae, or the drug. Until it happens to them, they will never truly understand.
I cannot tell you how many good people Ive met on here that were either in a bad accident, or were boen with a painfully debilitating disease, who are treated horribly by other people who see us as junkies...ie, my mother in law called me a dope head three times on the phone last weekend, and it broke my heart. but in some strange way, it makes the other person feel better to call us names, accuse us of being junkies, if thats what makes them feel better, than they can have their hatred, bundle it all up, and keep it for themselves, because I dont need that in my life with all I fight for. my life is hard and i dont blame medication for making it that way, i just take the blame out completely and see it for what it is, and then i can deal with it as a resposible adult, otherwise, if i listened to the uncompassionate fools, i would fall into the pit of negativity they created...they are the ones to feel sorry for, they are the uneducated, ignorant ones, who would rather not give an ounce of care, too much work for a selfish person...take care, zen

the methadone is good for ppl who wanna get off the stuff, but coming off the methadone is worse than coming off anything ive ever done in my life.For whoever that decides thats what they wanna do, think about it first cause that stuff aint no joke to come off of.

Here in VA people are selling Methadone like it's going out of style. I think they just to lazy to get out and find a job and work. They desire the E Z out.

Yes I do understand!!!You wouldn't believe the crticism I get just for standing by him....and it's horibbly sad not even his family will stand beside him.The thing is though he doesn't do nothing to even hurt them they just judge like it's their place too ya know.we've been together for 9 years and before this addiction when I didn't have NOONE he was there for me.We've have been through hell with each other what kind of a person would I be if I abandoned him in his time of need.Now when you talk about the name calling from your in laws I have to admit at times it's been to much for me to handle and I have myself have done the name calling,but I apologize and he knows it's nothing personal it's just releasing frustration.So I hope anyone who's addicted can get help or find someone they can talk to about it.I'm always here if anyone needs to talk.

Ummm wrote:

I'm sorry, but as someone who was addicted to pain meds for 4 years I think all you methodone and sub folks are just doing typical addict behavior. Its called detox, yes it sucks. you may feel it for a couple months but stop being freaking babies. My friends on Methadone stay on methadone and the only way they get off it is when they get back on the dope. I know there is exceptions but 99% of the addicts think they are the exception. Suck it up and get off the dope and get into recovery. The physical aspect is not the worse part of addiction, its the internal mental, moral, and emotional part. You can't face that with a brain full of drugs. And yes I have been on methadone maintenance and I would rather get off heroin than that crap

Just because you didn't do your program right, far be from you to judge others. What's good for you might not be good for the gander? Don't judge others, worry about yourself,if it could help someone else, NOT YOU THOUGH??? Someone, anyone let them alone and get the help that could save their life. All addicts are not the same as you are. Your judgment is clouded your just an addict!

All of those participating in this discussion that are addicted or recovering, here is some free advice....how about not picking up the drugs in the first damn place. Show some freaking self restraint for once in your lives, stop crying about how tough and severe your withdrawls are and get over it.

You chose this path in life, now learn to deal with the consequences. No, Middlesboro does not need to offer a rehab clinic to users, and if you want to get better, rely upon yourselves to get better.

I am certain that withdrawls are unpleasant, but taking methadone is simply trading one problem in for another.

Methadone clinic wrote:

Here in VA people are selling Methadone like it's going out of style. I think they just to lazy to get out and find a job and work. They desire the E Z out.

KOOL!

Mhrecovering addict wrote:

Sorry to burst your bubble Dr Dubin, but you are WRONG. Methadone doesn't work for JUST heroin users. I've never even seen heroin, and the Methadone clinic literally saved my life and my family from falling apart. I've been sober for a little over a year now and am happier than I've ever been. Not only that, but how dare you be aug a hypocrite?? You prescribe Suboxone, which alhough it may be a little different (one is an agonist and the other is only a partial agonist), it's very very similar. Just like the methadone, suboxone is addictive. It may nit be as BAD as the methadone is, and it may have milder withdrawal symptoms, but it's STILL addictive and you still have to go thru the sickness if you want to get off of it. I am currently in the process of switching over to the Suboxone, and I am extremely ecstatic. But what's good for me does not work for everyone. I'm sorry Dr dubin, but even you don't present all of the proper information to your clients and the public. I wish everyone could become properly educated on the benefits of both Methadone and Suboxone therapy. Just like in Bell Co, they won't open a methadone clinic, but they sure as sh*t won't open up a rehabilitation center either. Newsflash:: jail is NOT rehab and it doesn't help addicts. Most are doing drugs IN jail even, and pretty much everyone goes back to their old ways once they are released. Give people the right resources to get better instead of sending everyone to jail. Show some true compassion instead of shunning addicts/recovering addicts.

I am a Mother of an addict and she is clean and sober for 6 years, and yes methadone does work, she is a good mom and she is alive. She is a professional and owns her own business. Methodone saved her life and our family

As a Mother of an addict, Methodone saved our family and my daughters life. She is a good person and a good MOM. BEFORE SHE STARTED ON THE METHADONE, WE DIDN'T KNOW IF SHE WAS DEAD OR ALIVE. SHE DIDN'T RUN THE STREETS SHE WAS A WHITE COLLAR JUNKY, NO MATTER HOW YOU CUT IT , SHE WAS A JUNKKY. SHE NOW IS A PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY AND CLEAN OF HEROIN FOR 6 YEARS, SHE EVEN OWNS HER OWN BUSINESS. WE ARE SO PROUD OF HER