Cycling: I just want to race, says Landis

I still believe in ya Floyd and always have. Keep racing and making headlines; I think there are a lot of Landis fans out here!!!!

Hmmmm, You may be right but there again, there are also realists. Good clean cycling.

Raymond wrote:

Hmmmm, You may be right but there again, there are also realists. Good clean cycling.

Clean cycling? What a joke. One of your frenchmen just got nabbed. Aurelien Duval just got busted. Man up Raymond (or in your case woman up). Your french riders are just as dirty and no better (certainly in racing) than anybody else.

Cheers, here's laughing at you.

Yup, Aurelien Duval was busted for doping!

I wonder h0ow many European footballers use illegal drugs!

My Opinion_El Paso_TX wrote:

Yup, Aurelien Duval was busted for doping!
I wonder h0ow many European footballers use illegal drugs!

Name one

Athos wrote:

<quoted text>Name one

Operation Puerto related to that topic, but gave no names.

Sorry Chris, I forgot that you're still experiencing memory problems. Otherwise you would have understood why I brought it up.

Athos wrote:

<quoted text>Name one

The Italian Players at one time were stated to be notorious for using EPO
don't know if any were Busted...BTW Chris...see you've been playing Strip Poker again!!!

Gus wrote:

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The Italian Players at one time were stated to be notorious for using EPO
don't know if any were Busted...BTW Chris...see you've been playing Strip Poker again!!!

Thanks for the info Gus. I hadn't run across that info. But, it stands to reason that it would happen in football considering that they're evan cheating in Cricket by shaping the 'Bat.'

My Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:

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Operation Puerto related to that topic, but gave no names.
Sorry Chris, I forgot that you're still experiencing memory problems. Otherwise you would have understood why I brought it up.

I have no memory problems that I can remember, but I see that you are still unable to answer a question properly
Now, name one. Put up or shut up

My Opinion_El Paso_TX wrote:

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Thanks for the info Gus. I hadn't run across that info. But, it stands to reason that it would happen in football considering that they're evan cheating in Cricket by shaping the 'Bat.'

I should know about that being English. Tell me more please.
Perhaps it is ‘Evan’ doing it or do you mean ‘even’

Hey guys.now that we're kind of talking again,let's not be TOO chippy i.e. spelling...pobody's nerfect,know what I mean???

Athos wrote:

<quoted text>I have no memory problems that I can remember, but I see that you are still unable to answer a question properly
Now, name one. Put up or shut up

And if I don't do what you demand little man! Waht are you going to do about it? Have another tantrum!

My Opinion_El Paso_TX wrote:

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And if I don't do what you demand little man! Waht are you going to do about it? Have another tantrum!

Not at all 'old un' just put your money where your mouth is and name one. Oh OK I can tell that you can't do that, no good 'persooing'(perusing) the 'subjet'(subject)
BTW we are trying to be polite and not resort to name calling, is 'little man' meant to be disrespectful, or just 'politically incorrect'? You all have a great day on the bikes, as for me, off hiking tomorrow around the Cotswolds

Gus wrote:

Hey guys.now that we're kind of talking again,let's not be TOO chippy i.e. spelling...pobody's nerfect,know what I mean???

Eye no wot yoo meen Gus. Eye ges eye jest av too rispond two the Texen.
Av a grate day

Athos wrote:

<quoted text>Not at all 'old un' just put your money where your mouth is and name one. Oh OK I can tell that you can't do that, no good 'persooing'(perusing) the 'subjet'(subject)
BTW we are trying to be polite and not resort to name calling, is 'little man' meant to be disrespectful, or just 'politically incorrect'? You all have a great day on the bikes, as for me, off hiking tomorrow around the Cotswolds

I believe that Gus provided both of us that information Chris. But, than I do believe that Gus, ZENman and I have been saying all along that there are illegal drugs being used in other sports besides that of cycling.

Raymond my friend, your cousin's in A HEAP of sh/t, dans le merde, for real!

After slipping an 'official report' to LE MONDE newspaper, so they could leak it's devastating effects (in 'reputation' only, not in 'substance'), the UCI has blasted back with a report that should allow French Minister Rosalyne Bachelot enough 'ammo' to fire his sorry pinched ass...

How about the five samples from ONE French team, whose riders were tested in May... and then Named on the sample bottles, thus rendering each Sample 'Void'(what dear lost wILL would have called 'a technicality'... sheeeeesh);

Even better, mon ami: the AFLD Director asked for 'whereabouts' testing information from the UCI in the spring, and the UCI was happy to comply... in the time that UCI performed 190 tests, the AFLD performed 13! And five of those are above... I'm guessing that 5 or 6 of the eight remaining tests were on Armstrong himself... whaddaya think?

How about the assigned AFLD DCO (doping control officers: doctors who 'take an oath in French courts to do their work honestly'), as I said 'assigned', by AFLD to attend certain UCI races, and who didn't ever show up?

How about the claim by cousin Plucky Pierre Bordry that "UCI officials were discussing future doping test 'victims' in 'a loud discussion in a public setting'" in Barcelona on July SEVENTH (that was the claim written in AFLD official Report), when the Tour wasn't even in Barcelona until July NINTH?(bwaaaaaahahahahaaaaa);

How about his claim that the UCI wasn't using the AFLD 'chaperones' when the UCI response was that 'one chaperone went to the TdF organizers (ASO group, as we know here), to 'inform them about a 'CERTAIN RIDER'S' morning test 'irregularity'?

How about Plucky Pierre's claim that UCI didn't follow the rules to limit testing period to 30 minutes after the race, when ALL sports' rules have an exception for 'Medal ceremonies and Media interviews'(duh... that's what the chaperones are for!)...

I'd go on but you guys should read the report itself
www.uci.ch (the link to the Official report page is on the front page, top of middle column...) or read WADAwatch...

Oh yeah!

Cousin Bordry put out a Press statement /communiqué stating that he would 'make no public comments on the UCI report', which is chowderçhit when we remember how the LE MONDE paper must have had that October 5 report for at least three days, to write the drivel they did...

(MOeP: heh heh: there's a good French 'old-school' sports writer, whose name escapes me, who mentioned that this 'October Surprise' happened the very DAY before Sarkozy was to sign FOUR BILLION euros' worth of contracts and 'bilaterals' with Kazakhi president, in ASTANA KZ (you can't buy bad timing like that ... heh heh hehh)

ZENinsomnick

well I couldn't restrain myself: here's a great paragraph from that report by the UCI:

quote:
Before moving on to the specifics of the report, it should be added that the UCI is aware of at least three other major International Federations who have experienced significant problems working with AFLD. One International Federation now arranges sample collection and analysis of samples by parties outside of France for its premier event on French soil; another International Federation had to severely reprimand AFLD for failing to conduct sufficient tests on the French national team members before a major World Championships in 2009. Yet another International Federation experienced the same breakdown of anonymity of a sample sent to the laboratory with the athlete’s name included.
endQUOTE

SO... that would the the ITF, which sends its samples (collected by a Swedish company) to Montreal, to Dr Ayotte's lab, from Roland Garros, only 18km by TAXI from the French lab...

UCI didn't state where the 'World Championships' were in 2009, but France hosted the Skiing WCs... would the French Agency have ignored French skiers before an on-French-snow Championship? or is this a Rugby team or... handball? I dunno...

Personally, I think it's time for Plucky Pierre Bordry to stop obsessing and start planning for his seaside retreat (probably funded by pharmaceutical kickbacks hehheh)

Ztwo

My Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:

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I believe that Gus provided both of us that information Chris. But, than I do believe that Gus, ZENman and I have been saying all along that there are illegal drugs being used in other sports besides that of cycling.

Yes MOEP but when FL was proved (beyond reasonable doubt) to be cheating you would not believe it. Now you are accusing ‘other’ sports people of taking drugs, based on hearsay, how weird.
You are also putting the onus on to Gus and Zen to answer the Question asked of you.
On a positive side, you at least were polite, thank you for that

ZENmud wrote:

well I couldn't restrain myself: here's a great paragraph from that report by the UCI:
quote:
Before moving on to the specifics of the report, it should be added that the UCI is aware of at least three other major International Federations who have experienced significant problems working with AFLD. One International Federation now arranges sample collection and analysis of samples by parties outside of France for its premier event on French soil; another International Federation had to severely reprimand AFLD for failing to conduct sufficient tests on the French national team members before a major World Championships in 2009. Yet another International Federation experienced the same breakdown of anonymity of a sample sent to the laboratory with the athlete’s name included.
endQUOTE
SO... that would the the ITF, which sends its samples (collected by a Swedish company) to Montreal, to Dr Ayotte's lab, from Roland Garros, only 18km by TAXI from the French lab...
UCI didn't state where the 'World Championships' were in 2009, but France hosted the Skiing WCs... would the French Agency have ignored French skiers before an on-French-snow Championship? or is this a Rugby team or... handball? I dunno...
Personally, I think it's time for Plucky Pierre Bordry to stop obsessing and start planning for his seaside retreat (probably funded by pharmaceutical kickbacks hehheh)
Ztwo

Doesn't look like anything has changed so far in the war against drugs within sport anymore than it has with the war against street drugs.

They haven't been able to develope a plan in combating illegal drugs. And they probably never will.

Athos wrote:

<quoted text>Yes MOEP but when FL was proved (beyond reasonable doubt) to be cheating you would not believe it. Now you are accusing ‘other’ sports people of taking drugs, based on hearsay, how weird.
You are also putting the onus on to Gus and Zen to answer the Question asked of you.
On a positive side, you at least were polite, thank you for that

Chris, I'm past Floyd Landis. But, I am concerned about drugs in all sports. European football and tennis was reported out from the paperwork from Operation Puerto. So, I was just relating to that legal case and Gus gave you the answer.

Operation Puerto isn't hearsay.

As for your telling or demanding how anyone behaves here Chris, I suggest that you practice what you preach first.