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Aunt Flo
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To the Flowers Family-Good luck and many prayers your way for speedy justice.
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how come they did not sue the actuall officer that was on at the time of the shooting? he was the one responsible if anyone was
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The one on duty when the shooting happened done the best he could do. As soon as he got the call, he was there. There was nothing else he could do. He couldn't pull a miracle out of his ass.
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becouse it is the responcability of the city what there employes do or dont do on the job becouse thay put them in that job if the offecer commited negagence that falls on the city {yes i know i cant spell just deal whith it }
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CantKeepQuiet
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The police officer comes on the scene and finds two dead bodies. Where's the negligence?
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I hope everything turns out in favor of Kasi's family, that was a terrible thing to have happen.
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Melissa
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Flowers' family said their attempt to get a restraining order was unsuccessful. The day Flowers was murdered, witnesses claim that Meadows repeatedly harassed Flowers at her place of employment, coming into the store at least two to three times throughout Flowers' shift, verbally threatening her in front of co-workers and customers. Witnesses on the victim's behalf also claim that numerous attempts were made to have the Campbell police department respond to the incident at Dollar General in an attempt to have Meadows arrested for his threats and erratic public behavior, but nothing serious was done. At 6:30 p.m., Meadows would enter the store once more, enraged with a deadly weapon in tow. Allegedly, the customers and employees ran from the store, leaving Flowers helpless as she hid inside the store's business office. Meadows located Flowers in the business office, shot her, and then turned the gun on himself. The first to arrive at the tragic scene was not the Campbell police, according to Flowers' family, rather, authorities from the Holcomb Police Department, which is located approximately 13 minutes away.
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A restraining order isn't given by the Campbell Police department it is given by Dunklin County court house, city officers or the city of Campbell have nothing to do with that part of it.
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i heard riley was called 2 or 3 times that day and since he was friends of the family he didnt want to do anything except give him a ticket. billy had been drinking all day.
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just so you now wrote: A restraining order isn't given by the Campbell Police department it is given by Dunklin County court house, city officers or the city of Campbell have nothing to do with that part of it. No, but that is the city attorneys job to make sure everything is followed through with..
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A restraining order is done by the judge in Kennett. He is normally unavailable on weekends unless it is an emergency. He can be reached, however, after the order is issued by him, papers have to be served on the person, and finding him was probably an issue.
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just so you now wrote: A restraining order isn't given by the Campbell Police department it is given by Dunklin County court house, city officers or the city of Campbell have nothing to do with that part of it. Yes, a judge has to sign off on an ex-parte, however, if the police were called to a disturbance (drunk guy coming in and making threats)- they should have arrested him. I think family is concerned or believe that this was not done because of Billy's family.
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concerned
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And look where it got them two dead bodys, I really dont care about him but the flowers girl didn't have to die if the campbell police would have done thier job, yes they are responsiable.
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If it was my daughter I would be seeking any form of justice I could. And I would think that ANY other parent would feel the same way. Anytime there is a disturbance it is the police's job to protect, regardless who the family is on either side. This is a horrible tragic death of two people that could have and should have been prevented had the authorities done their job. If this was to go to a jury trial the family versus the city of Campbell, it won't matter where they move the trial to, Campbell won't have a prayer.
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Aunt Flo
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One thing we have to remember-the negligence not only effected Kasi's family, it effected Billy's family, too. But there was, without a doubt, extreme negligence in my opinion. Law enforcement in Campbell failed to do it's job. Had thing been followed thru like they should have, Kasi AND Billy might still be here-Kasi going on with her life, still spreading happiness with that smile...and Billy possibly could have been taken into custody, but then given the opportunity to work on his anger issues. Just a thought. Anyway-I HURT for Kasi's family, but I also sympathize with Billy's family a bit. I, Thank God, have never had to endure what either family has and will continue to go thru. But I can only imagine the emptiness they must feel. And to know this could have all been prevented makes it even more heartbreaking. Nothing can bring Kasi back, I am certain her family knows that. But justice and accountability may help the family heal.
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Anyone who thinks jail or a restraining order can permanently stop an individual intent upon doing bodily harm, just doesn't understand reality.
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Aunt Flo
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CantKeepQuiet wrote: Anyone who thinks jail or a restraining order can permanently stop an individual intent upon doing bodily harm, just doesn't understand reality. Most cases, yes, but there have been situations where people have been helped...very few...but some. At any rate-Kasi wouldn't have had to die that day if the system worked and he had been taken in. Jail is a controlled environment....he would have not been able to return to the store with a gun. A restraining order is merely a piece of paper, but it starts the legal trail needed and it does give probable cause to investigate complaints PDQ. Worst case scenario-if they would have responded like they should, there would have been a shoot-out with police when they tried to take him in. Their job is to protect and serve and I certainly don't make light of how dangerous it is to do so, nor do I think they get paid enough for it...no, they can't be all places at once and they can't see into the future, but when they are FULL aware of the aggressive nature of an individual on a specific incident, they have the responsiblity to not shrug it off and be PROactive, not REactive. Law enforcement can't prevent every crime, but in THIS instance, they FAILED, in my opinion.
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Holcomb might have been the first out of town cop there but I do beleive that campbell was the first there. I do feel sorry for Kasi's family. It is horrible what happen and it shouldn't have happened but there was no stopping Billy that day. He did what he set out to do and NO ONE would have been able to stop him. He was not in his right state of mind. As far as the employees leaving her, I have a family and I have to think about them before I put my life in danger to protect someone else. If you are able to help then that is one thing but there was no helping. I heard that Billy and Kasi broke up numerous times. I just wish she wouldn't have kept on taking him back if that is true. My deepest symothy goes out to the Flowers family. I think this is a case that could go either way. Good luck to all the parties involved.
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Why dont people let those two kids rest in peace? Sueing everyone is not going to bring those kids back! Just pray it doesnt happen again to anyone else. I feel sorry for both families but its not going to bring either one of them back!!
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Aunt Flo wrote: <quoted text>Most cases, yes, but there have been situations where people have been helped...very few...but some. At any rate-Kasi wouldn't have had to die that day if the system worked and he had been taken in. Jail is a controlled environment....he would have not been able to return to the store with a gun. A restraining order is merely a piece of paper, but it starts the legal trail needed and it does give probable cause to investigate complaints PDQ. Worst case scenario-if they would have responded like they should, there would have been a shoot-out with police when they tried to take him in. Their job is to protect and serve and I certainly don't make light of how dangerous it is to do so, nor do I think they get paid enough for it...no, they can't be all places at once and they can't see into the future, but when they are FULL aware of the aggressive nature of an individual on a specific incident, they have the responsiblity to not shrug it off and be PROactive, not REactive. Law enforcement can't prevent every crime, but in THIS instance, they FAILED, in my opinion. it does not matter whether some one has an ex parte against someone, that doesn't mean that the person is going to stay away, if that young man was set on killing her, he would have found a way,he did, he had nothing to loose since he knew that he was going to take his own life as well, i feel for the flowers family, but, police negligence? like you said they can't be every where at one time, i hate that this happened to their daughter, it is a sad situation. if he had been coming into her place of work starting in on her, ranting and raving, he should have been banned out of the store, but, it is obvious that would had not stopped him either. what i find sadder than anything is that everyone ran and did not try to help her.
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