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Sep 1, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger

Group blasts N.M. Senate over 'attacks on environment'

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MikeH

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What we need in NM is fewer environmentalists and more capitalist. This would provide higher paying jobs and a higher standard of living.
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when griego was chairman he scored higher, he should go back to chairman, listing mr. jennings
Hunter

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Bravo to MikeH, he is a wise man.
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MikeH wrote:
What we need in NM is fewer environmentalists and more capitalist. This would provide higher paying jobs and a higher standard of living.
That's funny...Y'all seem to HATE the capitalists that are already here (on the East side, anyways).

But, you might be right. I can just picture all those new tourists coming to see all our "capitalist", in a wasteland of cattle and factories. Who needs that messy environment stuff anyway? We can always just move, right? Somewhere peaceful, outside the environment ...

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MikeH wrote:
What we need in NM is fewer environmentalists and more capitalist. This would provide higher paying jobs and a higher standard of living.
What we really need are less school drop-outs and a higher percentage of intelligence/awareness amongst the public. So, do us all a favor...
meadow

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MikeH wrote:
What we need in NM is fewer environmentalists and more capitalist. This would provide higher paying jobs and a higher standard of living.
Without a functioning, healthy environment, capitalism, socialism, or whatever form of society you want will fail. History is full of the ruins of civilizations that trashed their land.
Get Smart

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and donate to Conservation Voters so they can punish these fools in the next election and help elect pro-environmental legislators! It's easier to change legislators than it is to change their minds....
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Get Smart wrote:
and donate to Conservation Voters so they can punish these fools in the next election and help elect pro-environmental legislators! It's easier to change legislators than it is to change their minds....
compete with oil/mining money. These jokers wanted to gut the Oil Conservation Division last session.
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Our quality of life and standards of living are directly linked to keeping our environment in good shape. As other places continue to over-build, trash their natural resources, and become increasingly unlivable, keeping our lands/resources sustainable is like putting money in the bank.
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MikeH wrote:
What we need in NM is fewer environmentalists and more capitalist. This would provide higher paying jobs and a higher standard of living.
The problem with your idea is that we don't have the education to back it and conservative always are against funding public schools. Therefore, the jobs would go to the people who move here from out of state and our "native New Mexican's" get left out of the higher standards that you desire. The immigrants will take the lower paying jobs and unemployment and drug abuse rises along with crime.
Want to help NM? agree to pay for public education for our children.
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Hunter wrote:
Bravo to MikeH, he is a wise man.

Why would you agree with that? Enviro's and hunter's benefit from each other when they agree to preserve public lands. Otherwise this state would have private lands where no person could walk onto. No hunting. No fishing. We are losing our public lands because of people like you and Mike H. can't think past the billfold.
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These folks have no one to blame but themselves. They didn't bribe the right people.
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dwalk wrote:
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The problem with your idea is that we don't have the education to back it and conservative always are against funding public schools. Therefore, the jobs would go to the people who move here from out of state and our "native New Mexican's" get left out of the higher standards that you desire. The immigrants will take the lower paying jobs and unemployment and drug abuse rises along with crime.
Want to help NM? agree to pay for public education for our children.
The environmental movement and job creation shouldn't be thought of in mutually exclusive terms. Job creation doesn't have to require building more call centers or middleman firms that do nothing but shuffle papers and suck down electricity.

At least, for the first time in 30 years, the words sustainability is being used correctly; not just by far-left enviro-nuts trying to push forward unrealistic conservation goals.

Clean air, clean water, and clean food are thing we all can agree are good for all of us. If entities in the private sector refuse to respect their neighbors, hold them accountable. If the demands of the neighbor are unreasonable, then they need to be held accountable (i.e. I bought this house next to an airport and the noise is intolerable!).

On all sides, I attribute these attitudes to the gradual and near complete erosion of personal responsibility in this country. With a decent lawyer and enough money, no one is held accountable; that's where the problem really lies.

Libertarian capitalism, not to mention Rand-esque objectivism, are wonderful concepts, but are untenable in reality. If the playing field was level, that would be one thing, but in the era of international megacorporations, the playing field is anything but level for the average citizen.

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Power Elite Environmentalists are in bed with energy, and oil companies, in order to keep the price of energy high.
This is very transparent.
And our politicos know it.
You can fool some of the people, some of the time.
But you can not fool all the people, all the time.
driving force

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meadow wrote:
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Without a functioning, healthy environment, capitalism, socialism, or whatever form of society you want will fail. History is full of the ruins of civilizations that trashed their land.
OK. Please name seven of them so we can know who they were.
Ken

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Everyone in New Mexico needs to keep an eye on the Environmentalists. They are out to destroy the Renewable Energy Industry in New Mexico. They have already filed one lawsuit in California to stop the building of power transmission lines that are needed to carry New Mexico produced wind and solar energy to the consumers in the more populated areas. They will also try to stop the building of wind farms in this State, just like they are doing in California. They hate the oil and gas industry that provides so much of our state tax dollars. We all know about the huge deficit we now have because of the lower revenues from oil and gas. The Environmentalists won't be happy unless we run out anyone and anything that signifies economic progress for this State. We here in New Mexico all love our clear air and water and views. How about letting us use our common sense to preserve and protect them, instead of all this crazy stuff the Environmentalists are always preaching.
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OK. Please name seven of them so we can know who they were.
the Maya, the Anasazai, Easter Island, the Indus Valley, the Tang dynasty, pre-colonial Ethiopia, Mesopotamia
google it- there's plenty more.
Clueless

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dpb

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Ken - "...How about letting us use our common sense to preserve and protect them, instead of all this crazy stuff the Environmentalists are always preaching."

Now just what "common sense" would that be? The "common sense" needed to send our resources to California? Great idea; however, instead why don't you move to California and enjoy the "environmentalist" free arena provided by the gas and oil industry there.
Reality

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OMG. Take one press release and rewrite a tad.

Terrell is pathetic.
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